Massage Parlor Reports

[Uboatct]

What's the best nonfs option these days, Hans? Or the others mentioned below? It's nice to see a decent number of options for a good massage plus shake!

I also recommend Z Massage and Harmony. I have not been to Kiss or Crystal; will definitely add them to my window shopping list. Thanks Rolf!

[Yogurt2020]

Went to 108 today. Despite the empty-ish parking lot, I was surprised that it was busy on this Christmas eve morning. A lot of in and out traffic. You fiends are unholy.

Had Miki / Micky / Micki. She is petite with a great body and has a very cute face, which I like. Probably late 20's, very youthful, to the untrained eye she looks early 20's. Her natural C cup knockers are incredible. Literally quite the handful. Haven't had so much fun with big naturals like that in a while.

Instead of the bubbly persona like most, she has a cool demeanor which is a nice change in my opinion.

Quick wipe down on the table, then DFK, and probably one of the best sloppy BBBJ I had at 108. Covered FS and finished CIM.

Overall I highly recommend Miki. Pretty face, great rack, good service.

On my way out I saw Monica the MMS / manager for the first time. She's hot. Also saw Gia. Wow she is gorgeous! I've had her and posted a review here, but the make up she had today was 10/10, she was a glowing beauty.

[RChangDatyKing]

First up, welcome to the club. It's addictive and fun to swim in these waters. And also at times frustrating and even a little risky, depending on the type of activity you want to indulge in. I appreciate the fact that you offered some details of your visit, rather than just ask for help without any real contribution. I'd suggest doing a search for nonfs here on the board and see the names and places that come up. And RChang's recent post contains a pretty good guide how to act and what to tip. My current nonfs favorite places include Z's, Kiss, Harmony and Crystal.

I also recommend Z Massage and Harmony. I have not been to Kiss or Crystal; will definitely add them to my window shopping list. Thanks Rolf!

[ColPucker]

Yep, I did see your post and it helped guide me to Sakura. Didn't want to request anyone specifically in case I didn't handle the tipping right, which I don't think I did. I ultimately left there happy with getting a good massage, and albeit no HE, I left happy because I went for a massage first. Now to explore where to get just a little bit more, but still maintaining a good massage! Thanks!

Okay, well it sounds like you got a good massage out of it. I usually just tip about $25 for a good legit massage, and I've never had any complaints. (I do give more to the one girl I see regularly). It is doubtful you'll even get asked about the tip if getting a totally legit massage, although the girl's attitude and effort may decline if you repeat with her after giving a poor tip.

I am somewhat curious who you had. In my experience the gals at Sakura that do HE do a so-so massage at best.

[ElmersGoo]

Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

Please feel free to PM me.

Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.

You will find so many choices and flavors in Kearny Mesa which is about a mile from the Marriot, do your research and make appointments.

[BlueSkyBlue]

Oh and probably the most important thing. Do not be jerks and make demands for shit. Be a gentleman, have good hygiene and respect the girls' boundaries. If she likes you the extras will happen. If you don't get extras, just move on. Good tips are great and the ladies will appreciate it but they prefer gentlemen more than an extra $20.

Just reiterating that's a good point to make, some guys get so desperate over time and money that they lose track that this is meant to be something that you enjoy.

Just try to be in the moment and enjoy it while it's happening.

[HappyPlaces]

Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

Please feel free to PM me.

Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.

La jolla can be a ***** to get out way more than downtown.

Downtown has hella homeless camping on the streets.

If I had to pick from either of the two it'd be gaslamp granted you can park in the garage which I assume they have.

[HKPunter99]

Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

Please feel free to PM me.

Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.

[RChangDatyKing]

This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.

Oh and probably the most important thing. Do not be jerks and make demands for shit. Be a gentleman, have good hygiene and respect the girls' boundaries. If she likes you the extras will happen. If you don't get extras, just move on. Good tips are great and the ladies will appreciate it but they prefer gentlemen more than an extra $20.

[RChangDatyKing]

Was in the area and had some time to kill before heading home and remembered RDKing mentioning about this massage place. Had a few knots I wanted kinked out and wanted that HE as well of course! Been a while since I've been to a non-FS place and RDKing always has the best recommendations! LOL.

Called ahead to see if Jenny was available and they said no, but new girl available and to come check her out. Got to the place and this cute 30 year old lady wear a dark blue fitted jean dress welcomes me in. She was the only one working that night as well. Paid the HF for hhr and got in the room towards the back with the bars on the wall so they can walk on your back which I was hoping for since she only looked like she weight about 120 and 5'1.

Got undressed and laid on the bed. She came in after and she started the massage on my back working on my kinks which she did get out. She even got to walk on my back and cracked my back which felt good. We were conversating during the massage as her English was not bad. We were joking around and had a few laughs but no teasing what so ever which I was ok with since I was only expecting a massage and possible HE. Plus I was having fun just chatting with her and having good chemistry was key..

LOL. I'm glad you had a great time. Man if your masseuse wasn't Jenny or Jessica (I know she off until next week) and you thought she was cute and only in her 30's I might have to make another trip to try this gem. You have to go see Jenny. She is hot and model like. Her massage wasn't as great as Jessica but I was admiring other things. Wink, wink. Like her beautiful face. LOL.

This is probably the new hot spot with beautiful ladies. I hope the owner keeps bringing more of them.

[DrPornDawger]

This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.

Testing the waters to see if more is offered. At a nonFS spa if the masseuse is standing so far that she's out of your arms reach most likely you are only going to get a legit massage. If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. If she does not and starts more teasing, etc then you'll get at least a HE at the end. Most girls might ask if you want something special, meaning HE or mutual touch, top off, etc..and she might tell you how much tip she wants or ask how much tip you will give her. If she's hot and the amount is reasonable I might accept it if I want to see her again. If the girl is just average than I might counter her $100 request to $70 etc if I know I'm not seeing her again.

FS spas is very different. Tips will generally start at $140 -$160 for 30 minutes session. $140 is probably CBJ, limited/rushed service. Tip as at least $160 for a better experience. $180-$200 plus for an hour session.

Again this is my 2 cents and whats worked for me. Good luck!

I will second RCDK's comments. Especially " If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. ".

If I do like them and the massage, I will pretend to have a muscle spasm and brush or touch their leg if it's near me to give them a sort of hint I'm looking for more. The other thing that has worked for me, network with others and get referrals. Tell them who sent you and the usually open up the circle of trust.

[DeeeezNutss]

Was in the area and had some time to kill before heading home and remembered RDKing mentioning about this massage place. Had a few knots I wanted kinked out and wanted that HE as well of course! Been a while since I've been to a non-FS place and RDKing always has the best recommendations! LOL.

Called ahead to see if Jenny was available and they said no, but new girl available and to come check her out. Got to the place and this cute 30 year old lady wear a dark blue fitted jean dress welcomes me in. She was the only one working that night as well. Paid the HF for hhr and got in the room towards the back with the bars on the wall so they can walk on your back which I was hoping for since she only looked like she weight about 120 and 5'1.

Got undressed and laid on the bed. She came in after and she started the massage on my back working on my kinks which she did get out. She even got to walk on my back and cracked my back which felt good. We were conversating during the massage as her English was not bad. We were joking around and had a few laughs but no teasing what so ever which I was ok with since I was only expecting a massage and possible HE. Plus I was having fun just chatting with her and having good chemistry was key.

After the back massage, she did the hot towel wipe down but no teasing like RDKing had. Prob because I'm not as attractive as he is LOL haha jk. But she told me to flip and sat beside me and started massaging my chest and she was smiling and started moving the towel that was covering junior and started grazing it and I was like oh ok looks like I'll have my happy ending after all! So after a few grazing she started stroking junior and looked at me smiling to make if it was ok. I responded back by feeling her B size boobs over her dress. She didn't push away so I kept doing it. She then got up and get the oil and sat next to me again but with her back against me and started to continue stroking junior slowly which felt great. She then told me to unzip her dress and I was like oh damn ok. So dress comes off and everything else revealing her nice spinner body. She then faced me and let me suck on her nice tits as she was stroking on junior. Things are goin great! I then move my hand lower and feel her kitty which was already wet. She didn't push back with me playing with kitty as well.

Things got heated and chemistry was great. Won't go into much detail since she said she doesn't want her boss to know about it which I'm not sure if this is true but I'll respect her being UTR.

Got my release and felt great. Now as RDKing always mentioning don't be expecting the same service when you go there. Always YMMV and the chemistry you get. I wasn't expecting anything but a massage and HE but I guess we had good chemistry she felt comfortable with me.

Thanks again RDKing for the recommendation on your finds! You must me good at finding Easter eggs when you were young huh? Because you always find these places where you never expect a massage place to be at! LOL.

[RolfTorren]

First up, welcome to the club. It's addictive and fun to swim in these waters. And also at times frustrating and even a little risky, depending on the type of activity you want to indulge in. I appreciate the fact that you offered some details of your visit, rather than just ask for help without any real contribution. I'd suggest doing a search for nonfs here on the board and see the names and places that come up. And RChang's recent post contains a pretty good guide how to act and what to tip. My current nonfs favorite places include Z's, Kiss, Harmony and Crystal.

A couple things to put here. First, when it's said "Sakura is just for legit massage" are you guys still expecting a HE or are we talking truly legit in every way?

Also, is there a customary tip scale for services rendered? I've never gone for a massage at a studio or anything so not sure what's appropriate. In the past I went independent so their rates were typically all I paid.

As for my activities! I went to Sakura because it sounded like the best place for a legit massage. I didn't request anyone, and I got a great massage. On the flip it got a little weird because she started asking if I had been to a massage before and how much I would tip. I legit only had 40, and she asked if I could do 60, which I couldn't so she stroked me a little and stopped saying it was too dangerous because "this store is for massage". Maybe it was a play to up my tip once she gave me a little preview, didn't work. I just said okay.

So, in the end, if anyone wants to take me under their wings as I navigate this world, would appreciate it. I'm sure some if not all of this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but hoping someone can help!

[Kodak619]

There is more info about Sakura if you hunt through this thread. But if you saw my post I indicated who to ask for for a good legit massage at Sakura. YMMV if you just walk in and take a random person.

Yep, I did see your post and it helped guide me to Sakura. Didn't want to request anyone specifically in case I didn't handle the tipping right, which I don't think I did. I ultimately left there happy with getting a good massage, and albeit no HE, I left happy because I went for a massage first. Now to explore where to get just a little bit more, but still maintaining a good massage! Thanks!

[RChangDatyKing]

Thanks for the advice, I went to get a legit massage and I was pleased with it. A few questions for everyone since I'm still new to this.

This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.

Testing the waters to see if more is offered. At a nonFS spa if the masseuse is standing so far that she's out of your arms reach most likely you are only going to get a legit massage. If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. If she does not and starts more teasing, etc then you'll get at least a HE at the end. Most girls might ask if you want something special, meaning HE or mutual touch, top off, etc..and she might tell you how much tip she wants or ask how much tip you will give her. If she's hot and the amount is reasonable I might accept it if I want to see her again. If the girl is just average than I might counter her $100 request to $70 etc if I know I'm not seeing her again.

FS spas is very different. Tips will generally start at $140 -$160 for 30 minutes session. $140 is probably CBJ, limited/rushed service. Tip as at least $160 for a better experience. $180-$200 plus for an hour session.

Again this is my 2 cents and what’s worked for me. Good luck!