"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[GoneForGood97]

Relating to privacy on SA, how hard is it to find someone's name with actual cell phone number? Someone in the past found me using facebook's phone number search. That was back when they had shitty privacy. I use textnow, which is ok for now. I don't trust them either, though.

What's your average PPM these days? Some chick is asking for 300, which is below what I dream with LKatl. When you negotiate a PPM session, how many hours do these girls usually expect to stay?

Sorry for noob questions. New in this hobby. I'm younger than usual daddy profile so there is that lack of experience. Other venues of dating are too risky for me. However, given the discussion here, seeking sounds worse than actually getting caught on a dating app -since it has a pay-to-play context.

One thing to keep in mind is if they host or not. If they host, I'll do 300. If they can't host and I need to get us a hotel, then I'll offer 200 plus hotel. I've had a lot luck, and banged a lot of hot 20-30 year old girls (even a couple of 19 year olds) all within that price range. Be willing to walk away from anyway asking for much more than that. There's a LOT of girls on the site, no need to let one take you way more when another will happily drain you dry for hours for a more reasonable PPM.

I posted about this a few months ago, but when my sub was last active I probably fucked 7 or 8 different girls, all in the 20-35 year old range, all hot, almost all bare, and I was averaging 250 PPM plus hotel. Funniest part? The 200 PPM girls were way better lays than the 300 girls.

[Jims2321]

I follow that reddit too, that is how I found out about usasg LOL. I think a lot of the chicks on their bullshit about their allowances in order to make male readers think the market is higher than it is. With that said, there are some whales out there. My current fave sb, who is still willing to see me for a "mere" four bens a time, found some dude in Miami making $15 m a year and she is working on marrying him. I am actively encouraging her LOL.

50/50 odds that dude is cartel connected, especially if he is in south Florida making that type of coin.

[Member #6718]

Yes, winning the genetic lottery can easily translate into winning the $$ lottery for these top tier girls. Their job is just to travel the world and have sex with a few guys a month. $100 k a year easy or more.

I was reading some messages on https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/ and some of these girls get crazy allowances and gifts. But that is top tier and different than what most of us are doing on there. And It's a good thing there more pretty women than multi-millionaire men.

I follow that reddit too, that is how I found out about usasg LOL. I think a lot of the chicks on their bullshit about their allowances in order to make male readers think the market is higher than it is. With that said, there are some whales out there. My current fave sb, who is still willing to see me for a "mere" four bens a time, found some dude in Miami making $15 m a year and she is working on marrying him. I am actively encouraging her LOL.

[SomeGuy3]

I've been on seeking for over a year and last month my account was put on hold pending verification. I don't think it's because of anything I said because I stay very generic until we get offsite. I removed the app and I'm probably done with SA.

Has anyone had this experience?

What could have caused this after a year paying for the site?

Has anyone done this verification?

[Peter Johnson]

Probably finding them too. There is a similarly hot chick in Wilmington who is easily picking off $1-2 k ppms from guys across the country willing to fly her out. The legit 9. 5+/10's can get crazy money.

Yes, winning the genetic lottery can easily translate into winning the $$ lottery for these top tier girls. Their job is just to travel the world and have sex with a few guys a month. $100 k a year easy or more.

I was reading some messages on https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/ and some of these girls get crazy allowances and gifts. But that is top tier and different than what most of us are doing on there. And It's a good thing there more pretty women than multi-millionaire men.

[BobeSugar]

Relating to privacy on SA, how hard is it to find someone's name with actual cell phone number? Someone in the past found me using facebook's phone number search. That was back when they had shitty privacy. I use textnow, which is ok for now. I don't trust them either, though.

What's your average PPM these days? Some chick is asking for 300, which is below what I dream with LKatl. When you negotiate a PPM session, how many hours do these girls usually expect to stay?

Sorry for noob questions. New in this hobby. I'm younger than usual daddy profile so there is that lack of experience. Other venues of dating are too risky for me. However, given the discussion here, seeking sounds worse than actually getting caught on a dating app -since it has a pay-to-play context.

The best bet is to get a burner phone. Ppm varies widely, but that seems reasonable. I don't use seeking anymore. It's a lot of work and too many girls waste my time. 2 years ago I met a girl and our relationship lasted several months, but that was rare for me. But I met many interesting and beautiful girls.

Be careful about your privacy and identity, never trust them. Don't give your name, number, job or address info. Good luck.

[Member #6718]

So head is now worth $$. Noted.

Be careful talking about explicit acts or $$$ on the website. That is a quick way to get banned. Take these conversations offline asap.

As for the rate, lolol. Plus anyone who prices on service level is full on pro. I know it is all really pro in reality, but I prefer to stick to the toe dippers who aren't making a career of it.

[Member #6718]

She sure isn't shy about her identity being out there. And yes could also be fake profile, but she's probably just on there fishing for a whale.

https://www.instagram.com/averyschuhardt/

https://www.facebook.com/porky.pickle

Probably finding them too. There is a similarly hot chick in Wilmington who is easily picking off $1-2 k ppms from guys across the country willing to fly her out. The legit 9. 5+/10's can get crazy money.

[Peter Johnson]

Pics line up with an Instagram account, reverse image searches found that one easily. Might actually be her though, locations line up. Still raises a red flag to me that it's a fake profile on SA.

She sure isn't shy about her identity being out there. And yes could also be fake profile, but she's probably just on there fishing for a whale.

https://www.instagram.com/averyschuhardt/

https://www.facebook.com/porky.pickle

[MariettaJoe]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-fced4fd64b7f

Has anyone talked to this girl? That is a top shelf piece of ass. I'm not even going to message her, as there's just no way she is in my price range.

Pics line up with an Instagram account, reverse image searches found that one easily. Might actually be her though, locations line up. Still raises a red flag to me that it's a fake profile on SA.

[FarFarAway]

Relating to privacy on SA, how hard is it to find someone's name with actual cell phone number? Someone in the past found me using facebook's phone number search. That was back when they had shitty privacy. I use textnow, which is ok for now. I don't trust them either, though.

What's your average PPM these days? Some chick is asking for 300, which is below what I dream with LKatl. When you negotiate a PPM session, how many hours do these girls usually expect to stay?

Sorry for noob questions. New in this hobby. I'm younger than usual daddy profile so there is that lack of experience. Other venues of dating are too risky for me. However, given the discussion here, seeking sounds worse than actually getting caught on a dating app -since it has a pay-to-play context.

You can use sites like Beenverified, they will give you a week's membership with limited #s of searches per day for $1. I find a lot of girls real names this way. You can't do it via google. Use a prepaid card that doesn't have enough to pay for your SA membership.

Knowing her real name is more insurance than anything. If she gets mouthy, or threatens you, you can always push back with that info. I have never figured out how to use it to get a girl into bed easier, or get her for a lower $.

I posted elsewhere, the LA thread, about an incredible woman I banged off SA, and I have found every shred of her life, because she has a very very public presence.

[TheLife1]

About to meet this one. Anyone have any dealings with her?

[Member #6517]

Relating to privacy on SA, how hard is it to find someone's name with actual cell phone number? Someone in the past found me using facebook's phone number search. That was back when they had shitty privacy. I use textnow, which is ok for now. I don't trust them either, though.

What's your average PPM these days? Some chick is asking for 300, which is below what I dream with LKatl. When you negotiate a PPM session, how many hours do these girls usually expect to stay?

Sorry for noob questions. New in this hobby. I'm younger than usual daddy profile so there is that lack of experience. Other venues of dating are too risky for me. However, given the discussion here, seeking sounds worse than actually getting caught on a dating app -since it has a pay-to-play context.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-fced4fd64b7f

Has anyone talked to this girl? That is a top shelf piece of ass. I'm not even going to message her, as there's just no way she is in my price range.

[Peter Johnson]

I agree with this. When adult friend finder was hacked some years ago, many users' names and email addresses were published on the internet. I don't want friends, family and potential civilian dates to see my name listed as a Seeking user if it is ever hacked.

Yes exactly. I was going to bring that up too. It's not a good look to be outed as being on a quasi-prostitution website, or at least as being on a site where "creepy old men try to groom innocent young girls", etc. You know how that twisted, bullshit narrative would play out. I just don't need my real name / identity associated with that, if it was hacked (or if the gov't decided to subpoena all their records, which is another possibility, however remote).

Not to mention, we all know many of these girls are batshit crazy and don't need to make it extra easy for them to find me if they claim sexual assault, or worse. Of course it is just limited protection, but better than nothing, on top of all of the other risks.

Fair point.

There are risks to any site you put your personal info into and I get why one would be cautious but the risk applies to your entire online footprint not just the dating sites. If you're being discreet with Seeking but plugging all your info into the McDonalds app, you're still taking a risk.

Yes, but a much, much lower risk, of course. And btw, I don't use my real name in the McDonalds app either. It's probably does have some spyware aspects, from what I've read. I don't even like having it on my phone, but the $1 Large Fry offer is too good pass up.

Anyway, it's all about limiting risk, and each person has to decide how far they want to go with all of that.