Non Pro's

[Lego19]

This member has some enticing images as to what you might expect. While they all look like her, they're uneven. In some, she has no makeup, in others, she's modeled up.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...2-48746addf71a

Any intel on her? I'm curious. PM me if you prefer (I do).

Gave me the pro vibe quoted me 300 for 30 minutes and 400 for hour. But she seemed real to me, it was a few months ago when she joined.

[Michael1967]

This member has some enticing images as to what you might expect. While they all look like her, they're uneven. In some, she has no makeup, in others, she's modeled up.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...2-48746addf71a

Any intel on her? I'm curious. PM me if you prefer (I do).

Don't get your hopes up, she's online constantly and has contacted me. The minute I tried to move to text she ghosted.

[KnoxNenters]

This member has some enticing images as to what you might expect. While they all look like her, they're uneven. In some, she has no makeup, in others, she's modeled up.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...2-48746addf71a

Any intel on her? I'm curious. PM me if you prefer (I do).

[Toomgis]

For our Thanksgiving dinner on Saturday my Czech born Sugar Baby drove an hour to my place, took a bath with me. Sucked me & Fucked me. Then cooked a turkey dinner for us. Thankful I found her 4 years ago when SA was really good.

[Marko Ramius]

One more vote for right there for a burner phone.

I conduct a lot of business over Google services and the loss of my Google accounts would cause serious mayhem for me. That's why I buy a new prepaid phone at Wal-mart or Target every year or so.

[KnoxNenters]

HEY! IT'S MY 100th post! Woo hoo!

It's not that difficult to sniff those troublemakers out, but sometimes you get led down a path before you realize, after 20 messages, they're not legit.

I had a pretty devastating experience lately I thought I'd share to help my bros out. Here's what happened:

I have a thing for big hair, saw a really hot girl and started messaging about things, letting her know her hair was amazing, etc. She claimed to have 1 kid in her profile, but she looked too hot. The conversation quickly moved to text, my Google Voice account. She immediately wanted to send me "spicy" photos to make things interesting on Telegram. I met her there, and of course, I immediately refused to pay for any images. She made it seem like a way to help her, as she's between jobs and has a daughter to support. So I told her to meet me instead, sensing she wasn't local anyway, but probably in Nigeria or Philadelphia, watching the Eagles. She then wanted $200 up front to hire a full-day babysitter. I'd seen that one before as well. Again, I refused, fully convinced I was talking to a sweaty overweight Canadian teenager. This is where things began to get tricky. They (no longer "SHE") persisted in wanting something from me. I challenged her authenticity and asked her to hold up a card with "I (heart emoji) (my user name)" next to her face. She got really upset, asking why I would ask her to tell me she loves me, which in hindsight, I won't do again, but just ask for the date. Point was, she wouldn't do that, either. I explained why they were a scammer, a waste of my time, etc. And blocked her. On both the site and in Telegram. Note to self, never move to more than one platform. They're data harvesting anyway.

Deep breath.

Within minutes, my beloved Google Voice account was deactivated. I got an email explaining I violated their terms and use policy. A link was provided to appeal, along with details about what all that meant. I of course appealed, but it didn't matter. They immediately denied. My first thought was, "OH SHIT! All of the other messages to girls I've arranged PPMs with, etc. Were visible to them. They probably got a complaint initially from this scammer that I was bullying them, which is one of the usage violations. But on appeal, if they looked at my other 60-70 contacts, they'd have seen all kinds of stuff involving you know what.

I was able to keep all my contacts, as they only disabled GV in my Firefox browser (don't ask. It's easy to discard the profile with minimal efforts), but I couldn't create a new GV account with that email, nor could I create one in Firefox with any other Google username. The more I investigated it, the scarier it became to me. I was playing with fire, trying to create a new account in Chrome as well. Was it my MAC address, IP address? Who knows. Google search didn't help.

HERE'S THE CONSEQUENCES YOU NEED TO KNOW: if you get pissed at a scammer, and this happens to you, you could lose access to all Google services across their entire platform. Think about how difficult that might make your life if you use it for civilized behavior. I was fortunate I didn't lose everything. I use VPN, but it didn't matter.

Stay safe, gents. This is an amazing hobby, and I've reaped so much gold from it, but losing all of the conversations I had going on was incredibly challenging to recover from. Most of the ladies in progress abandoned me when I attempted to reach back out from a new number, assuming I was a scammer. The loss was huge at the time (about a month ago), but I have 35 POTs going on again, so I'm good.

I switched to TextNow, which is adequate, but I'm waiting for a good eSIM to use with them, once they release them. The ads are annoying. There's probably some obvious reactions to have, but I would just say "Be careful with those scammers. Just dump them and move on, don't get into it, and don't make it something for them to become vengeful about. ".

[BrstMan]

I had been quiet on SA for nearly a year as I had a good thing going, things changed and was back on there looking around. I have noticed the number of women on there seems to have dropped significantly. Is anyone else noticing this? Or is it my search area and settings? I reached out via text to a few from last year via text and they have all dropped off SA.

Is there another site that has popped up that everyone is using?

I am seeing similar things on STG and LC.

[ColoHobbyist]

I've had some great relationships on SA. I've had several that were like girlfriends or (a good) wife. I involved them in my life and they took very good care of me…A lot of guys just want to get straight to the sex, that isn't going to work there (unless you find one of the escorts, who will charge you more than they do on escort sites).

This is the best advice. Very similar to my experiences. By and large, the women I find on SA are notable for NOT being escorts / hookers / etc. The handful I've met that were down to PPM on a first date that I hooked up with were mediocre and have led me to not ever want to hook up with that type from the site (unless I'm traveling).

The best deals on the site, if you're willing to put in the time and effort, are the ones like Michael described. They're not the hottest, but they make up for that with actual personality, desire, and low cost. At this point, I use SA like Tinder, looking for girls to actually go on dates with and, maybe, even have a relationship with. Paying a girl $$ or $$$ a date is a small price (for me) to pay a girl to overlook a 20 or 25 year age gap (I'm in my mid-50's). Over the years, I've had numerous amazing experiences, including one girl who actually moved in with me for a couple years (and asked me to stop paying her! Admittedly, it's a bit of a needle in a haystack thing to find these girls, but they're definitely out there. They're less about the money than the combination of wanting to feel desired, having actual daddy issues, and / or just enjoying the competence / reliability / resources that an older man brings to a relationship.

To the issue of finding such girls, cast a wide net, send a lot of messages, lower your standards a little*, and be ready to bail on anyone who quotes you a PPM like they know the routine.

I'll be moving up to Seattle-land sometime next year (after a project in Phoenix) and just starting to get the lay of the land, scene wise. When I've visited in the past, I've always found the pro scene pretty solid, but what I've been reading is painting a grimmer pic than I recall (more GPS, more drug abuse, fewer broken nymphos), so I'll probably look for someone off SA.

* Lower, not abandon your standards. I've never had a great experience with a 9/10 or a 10/10 from SA. I've definitely had surprises though. A girl I'd have called a 4/10 based on pics, in person, had a 6/10 face and a 9/10 body with amazing, natural, F cups on a very trim frame. She'd made a point to hide those tits in her photos because she didn't want someone who was just looking for big tits. Met a girl peak pandemic that was, max, a 4/10, but she just was horny and had daddy issues, so I got to absolutely use that girl like a fucktoy (creampies, anal, rough, etc) for six months in exchange for a lot of Starbucks. Enthusiasm is better than looks sometimes.

[ColoHobbyist]

About to sign back up on Sa. What's everyone using for payment? Are the visa vanilla cards still good? Thank you in advance.

They do. That said, I use the visa gift cards, not the reloadable ones. You can "register" the cards so that they're attached to a name / address. I use a pseudonym and a real address (one of my rental properties). This, along with a VPN and burner phone, is the best way to bypass a ban (if you pick one up).

[Michael1967]

Thank you for the tip. She originally wanted 400 to meet. I was polite and declined. Offered her 300 for two hours at my place.

A week later she hit me up. Came over. We drank some. She likes to be treated like she special. Told she is beautiful. She stayed 3 hours and I dropped three nuts in her. She is needy but a really good sub that will squirt. You just got to be nice. $300 each visit.

She likes sex. She can't deep throat me yet.

Sorry, she's sent me photos and videos and I wouldn't fuck her with someone else's 10 inch beast.

[TeninchBeast]

She does not advertise on. Stg.

Curvylatina sticks to dating / sb sites.

She is a pro but stg is not part of her business plan..

Thank you for the tip. She originally wanted 400 to meet. I was polite and declined. Offered her 300 for two hours at my place.

A week later she hit me up. Came over. We drank some. She likes to be treated like she special. Told she is beautiful. She stayed 3 hours and I dropped three nuts in her. She is needy but a really good sub that will squirt. You just got to be nice. $300 each visit.

She likes sex. She can't deep throat me yet.

[TnaPorter]

I usually hold out for the "2000 credits for $299" deals (which works out to about $0. 15 per credit) when I top up. 2 k credits usually lasts me three or four months, which is approximately what an SA subscription costs. The added bonus is that if I just drop out and don't use the site for a while my credits are still there when I get back, but old messages are not so I don't waste my time unlocking them.

There does seem to be this bounty thing going on about getting guys to open messages or unlocking pix. Because a lot of the girls seem to just send an intro message and ghost.

I used it for a while because I got perma-banned on SA, but the whole intro message + ghost seems too much like a scam. I would say that this NEVER happens on SA where the girl reaches out to you but then doesn't respond. However on SB, it's the most common interaction that you get. I've definitely met some real girls on SB but I'd say that the percentage of real girls who are looking to meet is tiny compared to SA.

[Marko Ramius]

I think old Herb Rose has a good scam going with SB. It's pretty easy to blow through $100 worth of credits in a couple of days when girls waste them with the "HI" or "Hey" messages and then never respond back to your messages. I believe a lot of these are just planted to waste your time and credits. Think about it. It's a pretty good scam. At least on SA you get a whole month of endless messaging and pics.

I usually hold out for the "2000 credits for $299" deals (which works out to about $0. 15 per credit) when I top up. 2 k credits usually lasts me three or four months, which is approximately what an SA subscription costs. The added bonus is that if I just drop out and don't use the site for a while my credits are still there when I get back, but old messages are not so I don't waste my time unlocking them.

There does seem to be this bounty thing going on about getting guys to open messages or unlocking pix. Because a lot of the girls seem to just send an intro message and ghost.

[Money420]

Well, now on SB you can use your credits to get yourself listed as a top admirer.

I really don't understand the value add for anybody here but SB. Any normal girl would prefer that money be spent on her directly rather than SB. And spending credits this way is no guarantee that you'll get replies back from the lady in question.

So it looks like this is a good deal for SB and nobody else.

I've found the hunting and the cunting on SB to be just about as good and as bad as SA otherwise, and the cost of credits spends about the same (or even a little less) than an SA subscription. But this new thing looks like a way to make it all less valuable.

I think old Herb Rose has a good scam going with SB. It's pretty easy to blow through $100 worth of credits in a couple of days when girls waste them with the "HI" or "Hey" messages and then never respond back to your messages. I believe a lot of these are just planted to waste your time and credits. Think about it. It's a pretty good scam. At least on SA you get a whole month of endless messaging and pics.

[Hypster]

She's a typical "send money for gas" scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-93765e0c1125