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  1. #21459
    Quote Originally Posted by RolfTorren  [View Original Post]
    Recently I over did it on some home improvement projects and ended up with some persistent muscle pain in the shoulders, arms and neck. I really wanted a good legit massage, but on the other hand I also love the happy ending. So I headed first to see my fave Anna at Zs. Unfortunately she was not there and I would have to wait for an unknown quantity. I exited, called ahead and made an appointment at Wildflower with the famous Leah. I arrived and Leah, who I'd never met before, showed me in and collected the. 65 house fee. I knew it was her from the extensive tattoos visible on her back. She began and continued with a very professional massage, firstly with me under the sheet, and later without. One fellow hobbyist here mentioned her "lingam" massage. I know know what he means. Sadly, I guess since this was my first visit, what is reputed to be the best rack to be found in any AMP in San Diego, stayed securely out of sight. I didn't push it. Again one of my "first visit" rules. I existed with bottled water, and as I was leaving she pulled down her face mask and flashed me an infectious grin, asking me to come back. The massage was CMT quality, and she's a super nice person. The whole environment is very professional. You could easily take your SO there without fear of the sleaze factor found in many local establishments. Not that I'm one to shirk the sleaze in search of a fun time.

    Today, still feeling the itch, and nagging pain, I headed for Zs once more. The girls were very busy, and Anna was on site but otherwise engaged. Instead of waiting for half an hour I headed for Harmony which is just a few minutes away. Its a nice place, and as I entered I was greeted by KiKi. Can anyone tell me how many KiKis there are in San Diego at any one time? I gave. 6 HF and got on the table. After a while KiKi returned and covered me with a sheet. As a first time visitor I didn't push things. She's probably somewhere there in in her 40's I imagine. I found her a little distant, and with limited English. Not that the latter has ever stopped me having a good time at an AMP. KiKi gave an excellent massage. CMT quality really. On the flip the sheet went over me, and eventually she pointed to an area that, under other circumstances, might have been tenting, and asked me if I wanted anything more. I declined.
    I agree, great rules to follow. Never push it on a first visit with a masseuse / provider. I too decline a HE massage if I don't "feel it" with a masseuse. I want to enjoy the massage itself and don't want to have an unsatisfying experience and wished I could have gone somewhere else if I wasn't into the HJ. If the massage was CMT quality then leave a reasonable tip.

    Yes, Anna at Z is a great choice. I agree KiKi at Harmony is probably in her 40's and gives a good massage. There is also a cutie there that can pass as a sister of a favorite of mine from the old VIP / UFS spot especially with her hair down.

  2. #21458

    More non-FS fun

    Recently I over did it on some home improvement projects and ended up with some persistent muscle pain in the shoulders, arms and neck. I really wanted a good legit massage, but on the other hand I also love the happy ending. So I headed first to see my fave Anna at Zs. Unfortunately she was not there and I would have to wait for an unknown quantity. I exited, called ahead and made an appointment at Wildflower with the famous Leah. I arrived and Leah, who I'd never met before, showed me in and collected the. 65 house fee. I knew it was her from the extensive tattoos visible on her back. She began and continued with a very professional massage, firstly with me under the sheet, and later without. One fellow hobbyist here mentioned her "lingam" massage. I know know what he means. Sadly, I guess since this was my first visit, what is reputed to be the best rack to be found in any AMP in San Diego, stayed securely out of sight. I didn't push it. Again one of my "first visit" rules. I existed with bottled water, and as I was leaving she pulled down her face mask and flashed me an infectious grin, asking me to come back. The massage was CMT quality, and she's a super nice person. The whole environment is very professional. You could easily take your SO there without fear of the sleaze factor found in many local establishments. Not that I'm one to shirk the sleaze in search of a fun time.

    Today, still feeling the itch, and nagging pain, I headed for Zs once more. The girls were very busy, and Anna was on site but otherwise engaged. Instead of waiting for half an hour I headed for Harmony which is just a few minutes away. Its a nice place, and as I entered I was greeted by KiKi. Can anyone tell me how many KiKis there are in San Diego at any one time? I gave. 6 HF and got on the table. After a while KiKi returned and covered me with a sheet. As a first time visitor I didn't push things. She's probably somewhere there in in her 40's I imagine. I found her a little distant, and with limited English. Not that the latter has ever stopped me having a good time at an AMP. KiKi gave an excellent massage. CMT quality really. On the flip the sheet went over me, and eventually she pointed to an area that, under other circumstances, might have been tenting, and asked me if I wanted anything more. I declined. Again I wasn't really feeling the connection and I really need that pre-flip tease to get me to the right place these days. Anyway, she continued the massage and then I dressed and headed off, leaving a reasonable tip for services rendered (or not rendered in this case). I might repeat with another provider. The place is nice and quiet, and one of KiKis sweet coworkers helped out with the initial translations for fees. Regretting I didn't get her name.

    Monger-on!

  3. #21457

    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBlow25  [View Original Post]
    I would say ivy at flanders. At least the biggest naturals. If I am wrong please let me know.
    Much appreciated. I'll let you know if I partake or go take a flyer elsewhere.

  4. #21456

    Posting reviews so they can get business, or for unpaid access to review sites.

    There are reasons to post reviews.

    If you want free access to review sites, then you have to contribute. Also, the reviews generate activity for the women. They can perform their HE massages and make money off others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waylay  [View Original Post]
    I don't think so. As a guy with many secrets, I don't post anything about my UTRs at all. Why flirt with disaster LOL. That said, there are a couple well-known FS girls at many "he-only" spas.

  5. #21455
    Quote Originally Posted by Waylay  [View Original Post]
    I don't think so. As a guy with many secrets, I don't post anything about my UTRs at all. Why flirt with disaster LOL. That said, there are a couple well-known FS girls at many "he-only" spas.
    Well said, brother! I too have many secrets....wink, wink. Lol...The ladies work at non FS spas for a reason. They want to remain UTR and offer extras to only their favorites, and they get to decide who they want to open the fun to.

  6. #21454
    Quote Originally Posted by RolfTorren  [View Original Post]
    Crystal on Convoy has possibly the most indiscreet location I've ever seen. I went there on a Monday night just to check it out, thinking it would be relatively quiet. Big mistake. The parking lot was jammed, but I managed to find a spot right in front. Entering the AMP would have involved squeezing through a crowd of hungry yuppies that were lounging in front of the door waiting for a table at the Ramen place next door. I'm not normally shy about going inside an AMP but this was too much. I might go back one morning and give it a try.
    Thanks for the feedback, Rolf. Yeah, I'm not going through crowds to see anyone. LOL. The spa doesn't have to be tucked away, but some discreetness is nice.

  7. #21453
    Quote Originally Posted by Jl0602  [View Original Post]
    For this reason I suspect a substantial percentage of the HE reviews are understated. Sex likely happened but the guys are keeping it on the downlow.
    I don't think so. As a guy with many secrets, I don't post anything about my UTRs at all. Why flirt with disaster LOL. That said, there are a couple well-known FS girls at many "he-only" spas.

  8. #21452
    Crystal on Convoy has possibly the most indiscreet location I've ever seen. I went there on a Monday night just to check it out, thinking it would be relatively quiet. Big mistake. The parking lot was jammed, but I managed to find a spot right in front. Entering the AMP would have involved squeezing through a crowd of hungry yuppies that were lounging in front of the door waiting for a table at the Ramen place next door. I'm not normally shy about going inside an AMP but this was too much. I might go back one morning and give it a try.

    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    Crystal Spa on Convoy: I received a text from a masseuse I don't remembered seeing. LOL. She told me I met her at several spas in town. This is a new spa in a busy strip mall. Any intel on this spot is greatly appreciated. I might eventually TOFTT to check it out.

  9. #21451
    I fully agree. Being a regular and not being a jerk can pay real dividends. I'm not a young guy vy any means. But I've had some incredible experiences over the past few years with ladies I've seen a few times. It doesn't happen a lot, but when she take things to a new level its really amazing.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaximusKahn  [View Original Post]
    I think you are spot on with your post.

    And for guys like me, getting a girl you like and becoming that regular who gets special treatment is exactly what I hobby for. There is more of a connection and mutual enjoyment. All that in search of our next unicorn.

  10. #21450

    HE reviews.

    For this reason I suspect a substantial percentage of the HE reviews are understated. Sex likely happened but the guys are keeping it on the downlow.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaximusKahn  [View Original Post]
    I think you are spot on with your post.

    And for guys like me, getting a girl you like and becoming that regular who gets special treatment is exactly what I hobby for. There is more of a connection and mutual enjoyment. All that in search of our next unicorn.

  11. #21449

    Rule of 3

    There are several factors affecting whether the menu expands. First, familiarity. One woman told me she has to see the guest three times before she has sex. Second, is the donation. Will it be commensurate to her effort.

    Most of these women enjoy what they do. They like sex and variety. At the same time, at least in the HE shops, they don't want it getting back to their husbands.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanMendez345  [View Original Post]
    I agree sometimes if you become a regular with a certain girl they will take it to another level for you if they like you. I'm pretty sure a bunch have mongers here have gotten some special extras from girls they would never reveal here. I know I have.

    YMMV is law. I find that going in clean with a good attitude will take you really far.

  12. #21448

    Love To Get To The Next Level

    I think you are spot on with your post.

    And for guys like me, getting a girl you like and becoming that regular who gets special treatment is exactly what I hobby for. There is more of a connection and mutual enjoyment. All that in search of our next unicorn.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanMendez345  [View Original Post]
    I agree sometimes if you become a regular with a certain girl they will take it to another level for you if they like you. I'm pretty sure a bunch have mongers here have gotten some special extras from girls they would never reveal here. I know I have.

    YMMV is law. I find that going in clean with a good attitude will take you really far.

  13. #21447
    Quote Originally Posted by Bushexplorer  [View Original Post]
    I think I'm in the same category as you. As I get older (and I'm pretty much there already), I enjoy the process and especially the tease of getting your brain as excited and engaged as possible. I do go to AMPs occasionally, but you might prefer the Independent FBSM scene more. It's a bit more expensive, but there are some incredible providers out there who will do exactly what you want and give you the oveall experience you're looking for. I don't do much FS because the cover takes away the feeling yet I'm not willing to do FS without for safety. Check out the Ind Massage forum in the lower half of the forum listing and I'm sure you will find many women who provide the service you want.
    Thanks! Yeah, I've been checking out that forum as well. Back in the day, FBSM was sorta that middle ground between AMP and Agency to me. Sounds like that's still the case. There was always a level of pampering I liked about it and apparently I still do, LOL!

  14. #21446
    Quote Originally Posted by Bushexplorer  [View Original Post]
    I think I'm in the same category as you. As I get older (and I'm pretty much there already), I enjoy the process and especially the tease of getting your brain as excited and engaged as possible. I do go to AMPs occasionally, but you might prefer the Independent FBSM scene more. It's a bit more expensive, but there are some incredible providers out there who will do exactly what you want and give you the oveall experience you're looking for. I don't do much FS because the cover takes away the feeling yet I'm not willing to do FS without for safety. Check out the Ind Massage forum in the lower half of the forum listing and I'm sure you will find many women who provide the service you want.
    I agree with you BE that there are lots of independent options. Some even have a VIP option if you decide to indulge during her tease or make out session.

  15. #21445

    Back in the game

    I think I'm in the same category as you. As I get older (and I'm pretty much there already), I enjoy the process and especially the tease of getting your brain as excited and engaged as possible. I do go to AMPs occasionally, but you might prefer the Independent FBSM scene more. It's a bit more expensive, but there are some incredible providers out there who will do exactly what you want and give you the oveall experience you're looking for. I don't do much FS because the cover takes away the feeling yet I'm not willing to do FS without for safety. Check out the Ind Massage forum in the lower half of the forum listing and I'm sure you will find many women who provide the service you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle65  [View Original Post]
    So its been a while since partaking in the hobby. Health issues sidelined me for quite some time and I was also okay doing without. Its been about a 10 yr absence, LOL. Now I'm slowly getting back into it. Its all familiar and different at the same time.

    Back in the day I played in a variety of playgrounds and usually with a fave in each. Sakura (Miramar / Closed) and Hana Spa (Pine Spa / Clairemont) used to be my go to AMPs. SDAG used to be my go to K agency. And there were a few FBSM indy providers I found via SDASP (site closed). Cheetah's was and is still my fave strip club in SD. Certainly its not the same fun for the money as other types of places, but fun just the same. I certainly had faves there too. Strip clubs in COI (LA area) were FS. My go to was Hawaii Theater (Closed), Spearmint Rhino, and Dj vu (Closed) when I could get up there. All provided different experiences.

    These days, I started to dip my toes back in the waters, starting with AMPs. Thank you to this board for providing the intel you all provide. RM used to be my go to for AMP intel, but I don't care for their current subscription model and from what I've read on here, they've gone down hill....

    Anyway, I know my "play style" isn't for everyone, but I'm sure there are some out there with common interests. If so, any constructive comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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