Seeking Arrangement Girls

[KingStannis]

Just pointing out, those two parts of your story are likely related to each other. I've found telling attractive girls "you have to trust me because I think you may be a waste of my time" doesn't usually have them dropping their panties begging for you to come back. Happy hunting.

Yes, I get what you mean. I am always open to constructive criticism and you did inspire me to try Seeking again so I renewed the membership with premium. I setup boosted to get myself more views and I took your advice and didn't say that to the girls after they asked for PPM on a first date. Thank you Sveetoh for inspiring me to try again. I did finally get a date and from that date an arrangement out of it after two days of a lot of time and diligent work using Seeking. I told girls let's try a coffee or some other meeting in a public place for the first date, offered to Uber even. Still a lot wanted me to pay a hefty fee / deposit for the first public date. Those that didn't still garnered tons of flakes who suddenly canceled on me last minute even after setting up an exact initial meetup date and time for coffee / dinner. I will make a follow-up report weeks or months from now on my overall review / impressions of sugardaddying compared to mongering.

[ColoHobbyist]

I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years.

Similar for me. 57 now. About that same time.

Most were 20-25 years old, a few early thirties, oldest was 39. When I started lots of girls were happy with 100, and practically anyone could be had for 200.

Yeah. And it wasn't impossible (or even uncommon) to find ones with a daddy fetish and a penchant for nice meals that'd be cool with just that. A meal and some lovin' from "daddy". Just moving to Phoenix for a 6 month contract in January, so I can't speak to the market pricing yet, but if you can tolerate a girl that's a 5 or 6 instead of a 8 or 9, and if you're willing to spend a little cash and time to play the long game, the $200 girls are still out there (at least in Colorado).

While I don't pay a PPM for M&Gs, I usually schedule a meal date or two at the full PPM to "get to know each other better". When you're only paying $200, it's a small price to pay to see if they're reliable and to see if you can stand them for more than 30 minutes, while also painting yourself as someone that's not just using them as a fucktoy (good for their self esteem). Earlier this year I banged a chick that was a solid 7 (23, blonde, cute, petite, but a little belly keeping her from being an 8) once a week for 5 months for $200 and date costs, which included hotels because I live in a van (by choice). So, for less than $850 a month (amortizing the $400 I spent upfront on two sexless date ppms) I banged her (cum inside all holes) once a week, overnight every time.

I have tried monthly allowance twice, both girls I had known for a while and trusted, and it doesn't work. As soon as they are paid in advance, they are too busy to put in the effort.

Again, exactly my experience. I've learned the sweet spot in the initial money conversation is to start with a PPM number that's below market rate, but not insultingly below, let her "win" by getting you to up it $50 (or not. The newbies will still sometimes take an exceedingly low number) and vaguely talk about an allowance in the future once there's mutual trust. Generally speaking, she'll never bring it up again, but the "idea" of a long term plan puts them at ease.

[Sveetoh]

Damn, I'm surprised you and others have had so much success on SA, because I tried it this summer and it felt like a complete waste of time.

I flat out told girls why would I pay an advance to someone I never met that could easily be a scammer, a waste of time, or guy?!

Just pointing out, those two parts of your story are likely related to each other. I've found telling attractive girls "you have to trust me because I think you may be a waste of my time" doesn't usually have them dropping their panties begging for you to come back. Happy hunting.

[KingStannis]

I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. I've been with over 100 girls I met on SA. Some were straight up hookers, some were just dipping their toe in. A lot were one time things, but several I have continued to see on and off for years. .

Damn, I'm surprised you and others have had so much success on SA, because I tried it this summer and it felt like a complete waste of time. As painful as dating apps! 99% of the girls I messaged refused an intro date of coffee or brunch / lunch to discuss a potential arrangement (I framed it as "let's see if we connect / vibe in person) without requiring a deposit before any type of meeting. I flat out told girls why would I pay an advance to someone I never met that could easily be a scammer, a waste of time, or guy?! Then the ones that did agree to a first date without a donation were flakey and said "oh I can't meet today. " Maybe, I didn't have my salary on the site high enough (100 k) or just am too below average looking to meet in person. Or maybe since I'm in my early 30's they didn't think I could be legit? I don't know but anyway, it was a bummer!

[Dsprdo]

So with Seeking I search the PHX area with a fairly wide radius and only 100 or so hits in the 26-40 age filter. And many (most) of these haven't been logged onto the site for months.

Something you are filtering for is removing a huge number. I filtered 26-40, body type slim, athletic, average only and got 2442 results.

[Desert Rat]

I am looking for young women who need assistance to get settled in life on Seeking. I do not see anyone who already has a college degree or a child. That usually omits any lady over 25 years old, but sometimes they are pushing thirty. I have paid to have a cup of coffee but no more that twenty dollars for gas money.

I have a friend who is a Doctor and he had a SB that treated him worse than a girlfriend. He set her up in an apartment and leased her a car. Within 30 days she would not see him without 48 hours notice. The dude is a Doctor and had a very fluid schedule but every time he was free she said she was busy. I gave him so much shit that he finally showed up unannounced and her boyfriend answered the door of the apartment. Doctor Dumbass took back the car and threw her out of the apartment. At least he was smart enough that the apartment and car were in his name only.

Thanks to his experience I will never pay an allowance to a SB but pay for each fuck one at a time.

[BatonEleve]

I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. I've been with over 100 girls I met on SA. Some were straight up hookers, some were just dipping their toe in. A lot were one time things, but several I have continued to see on and off for years. Most were 20-25 years old, a few early thirties, oldest was 39. When I started lots of girls were happy with 100, and practically anyone could be had for 200. Now it's hard to find one for less than 3, and the hot white ASU girls are getting 5 or more. If a girl has a problem with your age she will usually say so in her profile. I have tried monthly allowance twice, both girls I had known for a while and trusted, and it doesn't work. As soon as they are paid in advance, they are too busy to put in the effort. Never pay just to meet, never advance "gas money" or "for a sitter", try to rein in the GPS where you can. Enjoy.

I really appreciate the feedback from all of you who responded. I did create a profile on Seeking, with discrete photos. I've done enough of these profiles on the various monger sites that I believe I know how to portray myself in a gentlemanly manner. (And my experience with pros validates that I am a "nice" fun guy. Unless they are complete liars, which on the topic of my chops as a monger I doubt. If a pro doesn't click with you, we all know how to read that vibe). So with Seeking I search the PHX area with a fairly wide radius and only 100 or so hits in the 26-40 age filter. And many (most) of these haven't been logged onto the site for months. I'm chalking up this initial experience with the general mkt conditions that have prevailed post-covid. I get the patience thing, and actually I look forward to the chase, but I got to say the pickings look mighty slim. I do have some standards I won't compromise, I e, no bbw, but I'm not encouraged. I'm going to start sending messages to see if I get any hits.

Question to those with actual experience, I assume the first "date" is something simple like meeting for coffee to gauge compatibility and discuss ppm details?

[Dsprdo]

Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

I'm 62 and I've been on the site on and off for about 8 years. I've been with over 100 girls I met on SA. Some were straight up hookers, some were just dipping their toe in. A lot were one time things, but several I have continued to see on and off for years. Most were 20-25 years old, a few early thirties, oldest was 39. When I started lots of girls were happy with 100, and practically anyone could be had for 200. Now it's hard to find one for less than 3, and the hot white ASU girls are getting 5 or more. If a girl has a problem with your age she will usually say so in her profile. I have tried monthly allowance twice, both girls I had known for a while and trusted, and it doesn't work. As soon as they are paid in advance, they are too busy to put in the effort. Never pay just to meet, never advance "gas money" or "for a sitter", try to rein in the GPS where you can. Enjoy.

[JoeDocks11]

Thanks for the replies. Your comments are encouraging. To JoeDocks: I've read online that SA has rebranded as Seeking, and as a regular dating site? (As opposed to being SB / SD focused).

They are still all sugar baby / sugar daddy, they just want the dating site thing as cover.

[BatonEleve]

Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

Thanks for the replies. Your comments are encouraging. To JoeDocks: I've read online that SA has rebranded as Seeking, and as a regular dating site? (As opposed to being SB / SD focused).

[FlyingGuy23]

Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

I'm in Tucson and I just turned 70, how did that happen! Anyway I've had no problem meeting ladies. I do ask them if they have a problem with the age gap, most don't. I do tend to go for ladies in their 30's and above but I have "dated" several twenty something's but to be honest they tend to think they're so hot they don't have to put in the work. There are plenty of hot 40 something's who are looking for a kind gentleman. Important not to mention ppm on the seeking site save that for when you get them to text you off the site. I also agree with the lets get a coffee approach. Good luck.

[JoeDocks11]

Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

Seeking arangement is the place to go. Some are fakes, some are hookers, some are the real deal. It takes all little more work but you can end up with a good one at a great price. They don't think of thenselves as hookers so don't treat them like one set up an unpaid coffee date to start. Go from there. That screens out the fakes and most hookers. Report back!

[BatonEleve]

Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

Yes I "think" too much. But truly curious if the SB route maybe more productive than mongering?

And I also wanted to add a request to anyone in a similar demographic to me, and currently / previously having the SD experience, for recommendations to the best odds SB site for my purpose: MILF / mature wanting more casual arrangement. Thanks.

[BatonEleve]

Just curious if anyone here on the + side of 60 is having success with any of the SB sites. I haven't used such a site yet, but I'm thinking the chase could be part of the fun. I'd be looking for more mature SBs I think. I think I like the idea of PPM than a longer term situation. Appreciate any feedback from fellow senior SDs.

[Desert Rat]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-3ca9d82c3b22

This young black stripper has been messaging me. She admits to having one child and being all about the Benjamins. She has yet to set a firm price.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...c-79e9e9b17880

This one is married and wants a $4,000 a month allowance.