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  1. #8449

    Good points.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoopsAndGiggle  [View Original Post]
    From the information that was presented, I would assume that this is her way of saying not to see her anymore. Something must've happened on either your last visit or the one prior that made her become paranoid. Another possibility is she tried to borrow money from you and you respectfully declined. Another possibility is you've been increasingly more demanding with the type of service you wanted and it made her feel uncomfortable in some way. The most realistic possibility is that if a girl is constantly reminding you that her rates have increased means she's hinting that she clearly wants you to pay more even if she is saying that the rate will stay the same for you. Either way, for her to make those types of accusations means she no longer values you as a client and it's best to just find another girl.

    I don't think you understand the type of mindset you need to have to have sex with hundreds if not thousands of different men that they don't like. The type of principals that you're talking about or trying to logical rationalise how these people think is pointless. They're not normal. We clearly don't have the whole picture but I'm already assuming you know the real reason.

    But really for your sake, stay away from her. If you underestimate these types of girls it will only hurt you. They're not smart and look harmless but any animal backed into a corner can inflict an incredible amount of damage.
    These are good insights. I think you are right with just about everything you said here.

  2. #8448

    Let it go

    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    I have known this provider for many, many years and we have spent a ton of OTC time together, etc. So, it was definitely preferential treatment based on a long established rapport. As she has progressively raised her rate, she has repeatedly reminded me that the old rate applied to me and would continue to. And to be clear, I always paid her more than what she asked of me (tip), but what I gave her was still less than her normal rate for others. JohnPot, by your logic, you would have me pay $6 for a gallon of gas that the station owner offered me for $4. That makes no sense. Of course I am not going to pay the normal rate when I am repeatedly told an older, lower rate is reserved for me.

    In response to Boner, you are absolutely right that I have to choice to pay the advertised rate or walk away. I don't feel entitled to a lower rate, and I actually would not have had a problem had she told me "I am sorry, but I am going to have to ask you to pay the full rate from now on. " That would be reasonable and understandable, especially considering how generous she has been to me in multiple ways. What pissed me off is the accusation of intentionally shorting her over and over. That really makes no sense. Do any of us really believe that a single one of these girls would let us walk out the door even once if they thought we shorted them? Let alone allow it to happen repeatedly for years, but still see us and hang out with us OTC? Totally ridiculous. She knows. She didn't forget.
    From the information that was presented, I would assume that this is her way of saying not to see her anymore. Something must've happened on either your last visit or the one prior that made her become paranoid. Another possibility is she tried to borrow money from you and you respectfully declined. Another possibility is you've been increasingly more demanding with the type of service you wanted and it made her feel uncomfortable in some way. The most realistic possibility is that if a girl is constantly reminding you that her rates have increased means she's hinting that she clearly wants you to pay more even if she is saying that the rate will stay the same for you. Either way, for her to make those types of accusations means she no longer values you as a client and it's best to just find another girl.

    I don't think you understand the type of mindset you need to have to have sex with hundreds if not thousands of different men that they don't like. The type of principals that you're talking about or trying to logical rationalise how these people think is pointless. They're not normal. We clearly don't have the whole picture but I'm already assuming you know the real reason.

    But really for your sake, stay away from her. If you underestimate these types of girls it will only hurt you. They're not smart and look harmless but any animal backed into a corner can inflict an incredible amount of damage.

  3. #8447

    False equivocation.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnPot  [View Original Post]
    Bro, All I say is this. To a certain point, it just pure taking advantage of people. I have a friend, who I saved his life twice, who own a restaurant. He always insist that I eat at his restaurant for free. I took the offered once and that's it. All subsequence times that I eat at his restaurant, I always go at the time that he's not there and insist on paying for my meals. By your logic, I will eat at his restaurant Free for the rest of my life because he said so. But then, everybody have their standard. I have mine, you have yours.
    You've made a false equivocation on two accounts. First you're talking about a friend. I'm talking about someone with whom I have a business relationship. Secondly, you're talking about taking something for free, whereas I'm talking about accepting an offered discount. These situations are not remotely equivocal. I was not "taking advantage" of anyone. Your insinuation that I am somehow morally in the wrong here is way off base.

  4. #8446
    Bro, All I say is this. To a certain point, it just pure taking advantage of people. I have a friend, who I saved his life twice, who own a restaurant. He always insist that I eat at his restaurant for free. I took the offered once and that's it. All subsequence times that I eat at his restaurant, I always go at the time that he's not there and insist on paying for my meals. By your logic, I will eat at his restaurant Free for the rest of my life because he said so. But then, everybody have their standard. I have mine, you have yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    I have known this provider for many, many years and we have spent a ton of OTC time together, etc. So, it was definitely preferential treatment based on a long established rapport. As she has progressively raised her rate, she has repeatedly reminded me that the old rate applied to me and would continue to. And to be clear, I always paid her more than what she asked of me (tip), but what I gave her was still less than her normal rate for others. JohnPot, by your logic, you would have me pay $6 for a gallon of gas that the station owner offered me for $4. That makes no sense. Of course I am not going to pay the normal rate when I am repeatedly told an older, lower rate is reserved for me.

    In response to Boner, you are absolutely right that I have to choice to pay the advertised rate or walk away. I don't feel entitled to a lower rate, and I actually would not have had a problem had she told me "I am sorry, but I am going to have to ask you to pay the full rate from now on. " That would be reasonable and understandable, especially considering how generous she has been to me in multiple ways. What pissed me off is the accusation of intentionally shorting her over and over. That really makes no sense. Do any of us really believe that a single one of these girls would let us walk out the door even once if they thought we shorted them? Let alone allow it to happen repeatedly for years, but still see us and hang out with us OTC? Totally ridiculous. She knows. She didn't forget.

    To Hapa, I don't think it has anything to do with what other customers said. No one could name drop me because no one here or anywhere else knows my actual identity, and I am not going to name this provider in the context of this situation, not here, and not in PM (several requests already). I have other theories about why she raised it on me, but I am not at liberty to discuss it here.

  5. #8445

    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    It's naive to think everyone pays the same rate. Most, yes, but definitively not all. Like any business, there's preferential rates. It could be because of chemistry, being a long time repeat customer, or other quid pro quo arrangements. Now, don't take this as impetus to start negotiating rates with your ATF unless you want to risk being BL. The opportunities tend to pop up organically and usually from her end.
    I have known this provider for many, many years and we have spent a ton of OTC time together, etc. So, it was definitely preferential treatment based on a long established rapport. As she has progressively raised her rate, she has repeatedly reminded me that the old rate applied to me and would continue to. And to be clear, I always paid her more than what she asked of me (tip), but what I gave her was still less than her normal rate for others. JohnPot, by your logic, you would have me pay $6 for a gallon of gas that the station owner offered me for $4. That makes no sense. Of course I am not going to pay the normal rate when I am repeatedly told an older, lower rate is reserved for me.

    In response to Boner, you are absolutely right that I have to choice to pay the advertised rate or walk away. I don't feel entitled to a lower rate, and I actually would not have had a problem had she told me "I am sorry, but I am going to have to ask you to pay the full rate from now on. " That would be reasonable and understandable, especially considering how generous she has been to me in multiple ways. What pissed me off is the accusation of intentionally shorting her over and over. That really makes no sense. Do any of us really believe that a single one of these girls would let us walk out the door even once if they thought we shorted them? Let alone allow it to happen repeatedly for years, but still see us and hang out with us OTC? Totally ridiculous. She knows. She didn't forget.

    To Hapa, I don't think it has anything to do with what other customers said. No one could name drop me because no one here or anywhere else knows my actual identity, and I am not going to name this provider in the context of this situation, not here, and not in PM (several requests already). I have other theories about why she raised it on me, but I am not at liberty to discuss it here.

  6. #8444
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnPot  [View Original Post]
    Nah, because we all pay the current advertised price. Otherwise, me would have fill up on 99 c / gal gas right now.

    What do you even think? Because the girl said so? If that the case, then there would be at least 10 hot girls being single right now because they all said they would never married if it's not me. P.S.:. All 10 married now.
    It's naive to think everyone pays the same rate. Most, yes, but definitively not all. Like any business, there's preferential rates. It could be because of chemistry, being a long time repeat customer, or other quid pro quo arrangements. Now, don't take this as impetus to start negotiating rates with your ATF unless you want to risk being BL. The opportunities tend to pop up organically and usually from her end.

  7. #8443
    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    So, I had a long time atf (yes, had) with whom I was long grandfathered into a particular price. She'd even explicitly told me that price would stay fixed forever for me. I've been seeing her for years at that price. Then, the last time I saw her, she suddenly accused me of intentionally and knowingly shorting her over and over again. Then she acted like I was crazy even I told her it's not true and that she'd explicitly told me my rate would remain the same permanently. Man, that really pissed me off and rubbed me the wrong way. I won't be seeing that provider again, that's for sure.

    Has anyone else ever had a similar thing happen with a provider? What do you make of the situation?
    I would suggest to just move on. Whether she completely forgot or is intentionally playing dumb, she obviously wants you to pay the new rate now. You had a good ride for a few years at whatever rate and now it's time to get off unless you want to pay the advertised price. At end of the day, it's still a transaction for service. She can accept lower than stated prices at her discretion. It can end at anytime and for any reason. And as the other party, you can refuse and go elsewhere.

    Hopefully, you didn't get too attached. Especially after seeing someone for years. Some lose themselves in the warm fuzzy feelings and connection. I've told friends that before you get into this, you need to set boundaries and a line that you will not cross. Everyone starts to monger for their own reasons but, IMHO, getting too emotionally attached and starting relationships are about the worst choice you can make hobbying.

  8. #8442
    Quote Originally Posted by LexShaun14  [View Original Post]
    Any good Asian duos out there? I've heard mostly not great things.
    Stacey and Cara were the best duo I ever had. Stacey is still around, but I don't believe Cara is her roommate anymore?

  9. #8441
    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    So, I had a long time atf (yes, had) with whom I was long grandfathered into a particular price. She'd even explicitly told me that price would stay fixed forever for me. I've been seeing her for years at that price. Then, the last time I saw her, she suddenly accused me of intentionally and knowingly shorting her over and over again. Then she acted like I was crazy even I told her it's not true and that she'd explicitly told me my rate would remain the same permanently. Man, that really pissed me off and rubbed me the wrong way. I won't be seeing that provider again, that's for sure.

    Has anyone else ever had a similar thing happen with a provider? What do you make of the situation?
    Women change their minds, especially when it comes to getting fucked and cummed in. More news at 11.

  10. #8440
    Which no good 2 bit be this? Needs to be called out for her shenanigans. Honestly you can't believe what comes out of the mouth of a WG. It's poison.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    So, I had a long time atf (yes, had) with whom I was long grandfathered into a particular price. She'd even explicitly told me that price would stay fixed forever for me. I've been seeing her for years at that price. Then, the last time I saw her, she suddenly accused me of intentionally and knowingly shorting her over and over again. Then she acted like I was crazy even I told her it's not true and that she'd explicitly told me my rate would remain the same permanently. Man, that really pissed me off and rubbed me the wrong way. I won't be seeing that provider again, that's for sure.

    Has anyone else ever had a similar thing happen with a provider? What do you make of the situation?

  11. #8439
    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    So, I had a long time atf (yes, had) with whom I was long grandfathered into a particular price. She'd even explicitly told me that price would stay fixed forever for me. I've been seeing her for years at that price. Then, the last time I saw her, she suddenly accused me of intentionally and knowingly shorting her over and over again. Then she acted like I was crazy even I told her it's not true and that she'd explicitly told me my rate would remain the same permanently. Man, that really pissed me off and rubbed me the wrong way. I won't be seeing that provider again, that's for sure.

    Has anyone else ever had a similar thing happen with a provider? What do you make of the situation?
    Are you talking with other members here or on another board that know you've seen her?

    Trust me guys get jealous and will name drop and than you're done.

    Happen to me several years ago.

  12. #8438
    Nah, because we all pay the current advertised price. Otherwise, me would have fill up on 99 c / gal gas right now.

    What do you even think? Because the girl said so? If that the case, then there would be at least 10 hot girls being single right now because they all said they would never married if it's not me. P.S.:. All 10 married now.

    Quote Originally Posted by FiatVoluptas  [View Original Post]
    So, I had a long time atf (yes, had) with whom I was long grandfathered into a particular price. She'd even explicitly told me that price would stay fixed forever for me. I've been seeing her for years at that price. Then, the last time I saw her, she suddenly accused me of intentionally and knowingly shorting her over and over again. Then she acted like I was crazy even I told her it's not true and that she'd explicitly told me my rate would remain the same permanently. Man, that really pissed me off and rubbed me the wrong way. I won't be seeing that provider again, that's for sure.

    Has anyone else ever had a similar thing happen with a provider? What do you make of the situation?

  13. #8437

    Sooyoung. Pot Luck

    I asked the booker at Candygirl if Sooyoung looked like her photos. I was assured that she did. 100% true. This booker is exceptionally truthful.

    Sooyoung was wearing the blue outfit - https://www.candygirlla.com/portfoli...0d6287c4833mv2 - but without panties. She is about Asia's height but with a body a little like Yoco's. A little belly fat. A cute face.

    She was very friendly and touched all the bases. She was more spontaneous than most. It was almost like a one night stand.

    I asked her if I could play a Reggae selection and she said that she liked Reggae. She then started dancing in a very sexy fashion in "Korean Style" according to her. It was like an Asian performer showed up in a Kingston, JM strip club. Needless to say, I broke out in laughter.

    If you are in the mood for something different give her a try.

  14. #8436
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexShaun14  [View Original Post]
    Any good Asian duos out there? I've heard mostly not great things.
    Service-wise, Pepsi + _anyone_ is the best because Pepsi the trainer for all her girls.

  15. #8435

    Accusations.

    So, I had a long time atf (yes, had) with whom I was long grandfathered into a particular price. She'd even explicitly told me that price would stay fixed forever for me. I've been seeing her for years at that price. Then, the last time I saw her, she suddenly accused me of intentionally and knowingly shorting her over and over again. Then she acted like I was crazy even I told her it's not true and that she'd explicitly told me my rate would remain the same permanently. Man, that really pissed me off and rubbed me the wrong way. I won't be seeing that provider again, that's for sure.

    Has anyone else ever had a similar thing happen with a provider? What do you make of the situation?

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