General Reports

[SfoDavid67]

It can never be emphasized enough, so here are some arrest reports from a recent sting, and you can see what they did wrong.

Not sure if the first one was arrested for solicitation or being stupid enough to give a SW $200, but as soon as he mentioned OR agreed to an amount And in exchange for a sex act, he was done. Same with the second guy. They weren't arrested for offering to give the girl a ride or stopping to say hi, those are not illegal, they were arrested for solicitation of prostitution, and lately they have even been recording the conversations and using them as evidence so it is much harder to fight it, even with a good lawyer. I'm not trying to get on a soap box and hopefully most dudes in this hobby already know, but obviously they are still busting guys every time they do these complete waste of time and resources stings. Now these guys lives are turned upside down with court dates, fines, jail photo on the internet, a criminal record and having to explain what happened to their wife, girlfriend, kids, parents, friends, etc. So again, just be careful, survey the landscape, and if you go in for the scoop, watch what you say and Never discuss an amount. Ask if she needs a ride, offer to buy her a coffee or for directions, all perfectly legal. If she gets in, that's a good sign as a decoy most likely will not get in the car and instead push you to talk through the window and persuade you to incriminate yourself. Then get out the area making sure you're not being followed and after that whatever happens between 2 consenting adults is none of their dam business. Hope this has been helpful. If it keeps just one person from going through what these 2 guys are going through right now, it is worth it. Stay safe!

You will likely lose your job, especially if there is media coverage. It will be VERY difficult to find meaningful employment again. The arrest alone can destroy your life, even if you beat the charges.

[Nightowl21]

It can never be emphasized enough, so here are some arrest reports from a recent sting, and you can see what they did wrong.

Not sure if the first one was arrested for solicitation or being stupid enough to give a SW $200, but as soon as he mentioned OR agreed to an amount And in exchange for a sex act, he was done. Same with the second guy. They weren't arrested for offering to give the girl a ride or stopping to say hi, those are not illegal, they were arrested for solicitation of prostitution, and lately they have even been recording the conversations and using them as evidence so it is much harder to fight it, even with a good lawyer. I'm not trying to get on a soap box and hopefully most dudes in this hobby already know, but obviously they are still busting guys every time they do these complete waste of time and resources stings. Now these guys lives are turned upside down with court dates, fines, jail photo on the internet, a criminal record and having to explain what happened to their wife, girlfriend, kids, parents, friends, etc. So again, just be careful, survey the landscape, and if you go in for the scoop, watch what you say and Never discuss an amount. Ask if she needs a ride, offer to buy her a coffee or for directions, all perfectly legal. If she gets in, that's a good sign as a decoy most likely will not get in the car and instead push you to talk through the window and persuade you to incriminate yourself. Then get out the area making sure you're not being followed and after that whatever happens between 2 consenting adults is none of their dam business. Hope this has been helpful. If it keeps just one person from going through what these 2 guys are going through right now, it is worth it. Stay safe!

Not sure what happened to the reports in the the first post, but here they are again.

[Grain 56]

Plenty of forums on the web and I forgot where I "read it" where they review guys who send fake pics. These girls talk way more than we do. At this point it's just way easier to find someone from here who doesn't require all that craziness. Either that or just meet civilians out and about for legit dating. I'd say the gas station, grocery store, or any bar are consistently easier places to meet than on one of those sites. Or you could always just UTR it.

I've heard about those type sites too. I wouldn't be too concerned.

We have the same kind of thing calling out their fake pics. It's called USASG. LOL. I guarantee that most of the women that would use that type of Forum are more guilty of that same practice than any guy. Even on the hoity-toity provider sites. Heavily filtered, blurred, edited, 10-year-old pics, etc. However, the one we get to use to call them out on is super helpful.

I doubt theirs helps them too much even if it does exist. I don't recall ever reading a single post on USASG where a Member says he was "denied" communication or seeing a provider because she said she "saw" the man posted fake pics on some Provider's Tattle-Tale Forum.

As mentioned over and over, just send a pic of someone that looks similar to you. You'll be fine.

Grain 56.

[Twist]

I spent a week in Montreal for work and thought I would provide a summary of how I do these trips for the general population. This is a summation of my experience and what works for me after 8 years of shuttling back and forth for various reasons.

Some of you might read this and think "that fuck paid how much for pussy?" This post is not for you. You can't afford it, are not interesting in it, or don't understand it; there is no shame in any of that. Just don't post your commentary here; there IS shame in that. Put it in the Rat Trap where it will not annoy others.

Flights:

I exclusively use Air Canada. Service is good, flights are on time and they are direct from MCO. I have more than 50 flights to Montreal with them and they have not failed me yet.

Customs is easy; they have an electronic kiosk where you scan your passport, answer some questions and get a ticket. Present that to the customs agent and you are through. They look annoyed but I have never had a problem beyond that. Pick up your luggage, maybe answer a few more questions from the security guards when you clear the customs zone (why are you in Canada seems the be the most popular). Say whatever you like; most of the time it does not matter. They wave you though.

You also have to provide vaccinations records via an app. When you book you flight, Air Canada will tell you how to use the app. No record, no entry.

Exchanging Money:

I use my Charles Schwab checking account debit card at the ATM machines. Schwab reimburse ATM fees and the exchange rate is as good as you are going to get. I can withdraw $800 per day US which is somewhere around 1000 CAD. I use my Amazon Prime card for other transactions as there is no foreign transaction fees. Easy.

Transportation:

I use a Taxi to get from the airport to the center of town. It is roughly 50 CAD which is about 37 USD. I use the subway or Uber for everything else. Lyft is not in Montreal. I use Uber Black when I need a car because standard Uber is hit or miss. I have gotten cars that don't have AC or heat. Once a guy pulled up and the lawn chair for a front seat. Nope. There are plenty of perfectly good Ubers but I have just had bad luck.

Where to Stay:

I usually stay around Ville-Marie in downtown. It is centrally located and easy for the ladies to get too. I use AirBnB. I just don't like hotels in general. Canadians are polite but they do not like a ruckus so be discrete and mind you manners; there will be no trouble. Agent girls will have no problem with AirBnB but independents might. More on that later.

Who to Fuck:

I stick with reputable Agencies and independents. They are not hard to find.

This time around I used Euphoria (euphoriagirls.com) and Sweet Montreal (sweetmontreal.ca). Sweet Montreal lets you book 24 hours in advance and Euphoria books the day of. I call first thing in the morning. I'll book for 2 hours just to give the lady time to warm up to me and have a relaxed visit. They are often young, and the sessions are better when they have had some time to adjust to you. Prices are about $380 USD ($190 USD per hour). If the ad states "open minded" that means swallowing or something like that is on the menu. Very open minded is usually anal. Sometimes they just call it out but usually that is the code. Anal is hard to come by but it does exists. I am a TUHA kinda guy and open minded usually gets this. Never had to pay extra with the reputable agencies. This is where I pull the eye candy that I could not spend an evening with but certainly appreciate for an hour or two. They tend to be Europeans (your best chance for anal if that is your thing), out of high school local hotties looking to supplement a menial income, former strippers looking to get control of their work hours, or college girls in need of extra money. They come and go but there always appears to be a steady stream to choose from. They arrive on time through a driver that you will never see and have no problem with AirBnB that I have experienced. I have rarely had a bad date.

For longer dates that involve an event, I use independents. Many are former Agency girls who have there act together and graduate to independent status to control there time and money. They tend to have social rates and private rates that are friendly to longer dates outside the bedroom. Indy Companions (indycompanions.com) is a good start. I also use Twitter and follow some of the ladies. They all cross promote each other so you will get a pretty good idea who is available and what their personality is. On the Indy side, I have had sessions with semi pros to include a Cirque Du Soleil performer between gigs, chefs, artists and fitness instructors. Just ladies in insecure jobs looking for extra money. I've also seen pros that are in it for the lifestyle escorting affords. It's a total mix.

Some indies are starting to ask for deposits which is new. I usually don't have to do that because I am known in those circles and have a good reputation. These ladies communicate (I am told via Slack) and check up on you with other ladies you have seen. I also tend to book dates that include dinner and activities. I took a lady ax throwing once which was a good time. We have done concerts (U2 and Paul Simon) as well as Hockey games at the Centre Bell. I have not had a problem with AirBnB because of that but if you are an unknown, you might.

How not to be a Time Waster:

Open with a short email that is pleasant be gets to the point. Who you are, what you would like to do, when you want to do it and for how long. What is the vide you are after. If she is interested, talk logistics. Where to meet, when does she want payment. Does she want to drop some things off at your place so she does not need to carry them around all evening.

Based on her published rates, confirm the amount. If it is not clear what her rates are or your want something outside her published rates, just ask if she does not tell you. Don't negotiate. Accept or decline. It's as simple as that. These ladies have well publish rates so you are not going to be surprised. It's going to be about what you deduce from looking at her webpage. If you start by negotiating a rate, you are not going to have a good time or she will not take your date. Most of these ladies worth seeing have options beyond you.

Remember, this is all about you. She is there to make sure YOU have a good time. Taking her to a hockey game she wants to go to is beneficial to her, but she would rather go with her friends, not you. She may like Hockey and that may make the evening go smoother, but it is still all about you in the end. That is what you are paying for.

How to set the mood:

If you treat the ladies, regardless of the source, well, they will treat you well. Personnel hygiene is a must; manscaping wins you points. I build a play list that is as long as the private portion of the date and I have a song that is the 15 minute warning. I let her know this when we start private time. When we reach the 15 minute warning, I let her know. When the music ends, so does the date. Half of the time; the lady will stay another hour, sometimes two if the vibe is good. If this is the case, she knows she is on her time and not additional payment is expected. This is the second biggest compliment she can pay you. The first is if she has sex with you again on her time; this happens some of the time. She has done her duty and could go home but choses not too. I have only had one lady with boundary issues. She just did not read the room; I was tired and it was time to go.

I also take programmable dimmable light bulbs that I can use to set the mood of the room. Three or four do the trick. I use Bluetooth bulbs because I don't need a hub or router to control them. I also have a bag of decent unopened toiletries for the lady in the bathroom. Most of the time they don't use them but its a nice touch for those that forgot something.

Don't make a fuss about the condom. Just use the damn thing. If you have a brand you like, let them know, they will bring it. You can have your own and as long as it is unopened, they will use them. I have gotten BB on multiple occasions but usually with semi pros. I did not ask for it, I just did not stop it when it happened. The most certain way to NOT get BB is to expect it. Let her make the choice. I have only gotten BB once from an Agency and never from an Indy pro.

That's about it. Serious questions can be sent via PM. Less serious questions can be posted in the Rat Trap.

[Nightowl21]

It can never be emphasized enough, so here are some arrest reports from a recent sting, and you can see what they did wrong.

Not sure if the first one was arrested for solicitation or being stupid enough to give a SW $200, but as soon as he mentioned OR agreed to an amount And in exchange for a sex act, he was done. Same with the second guy. They weren't arrested for offering to give the girl a ride or stopping to say hi, those are not illegal, they were arrested for solicitation of prostitution, and lately they have even been recording the conversations and using them as evidence so it is much harder to fight it, even with a good lawyer. I'm not trying to get on a soap box and hopefully most dudes in this hobby already know, but obviously they are still busting guys every time they do these complete waste of time and resources stings. Now these guys lives are turned upside down with court dates, fines, jail photo on the internet, a criminal record and having to explain what happened to their wife, girlfriend, kids, parents, friends, etc. So again, just be careful, survey the landscape, and if you go in for the scoop, watch what you say and Never discuss an amount. Ask if she needs a ride, offer to buy her a coffee or for directions, all perfectly legal. If she gets in, that's a good sign as a decoy most likely will not get in the car and instead push you to talk through the window and persuade you to incriminate yourself. Then get out the area making sure you're not being followed and after that whatever happens between 2 consenting adults is none of their dam business. Hope this has been helpful. If it keeps just one person from going through what these 2 guys are going through right now, it is worth it. Stay safe!

[DiscteteInJax]

Anyone seen Talia Vega? Looking for some intel. PM's preferred. Thanks.

[Punkox]

Spot on Vino. To do something else, like tell them the "Dead President" line suggested earlier, will do nothing but get you blocked from what possibly could be a great provider.

Same with a dick pic. In fact, that pic doesn't even have to be that close. LOL.

Carlosa's false car type suggestion is in the same ballpark. Never give them accurate info. Keep yourself totally in control as much as possible. Once they see you, IF you choose to meet her after seeing her, it won't matter anyway.

Anyone that says they don't care as they have nothing to hide is foolish.

Grain 56.

Plenty of forums on the web and I forgot where I "read it" where they review guys who send fake pics. These girls talk way more than we do. At this point it's just way easier to find someone from here who doesn't require all that craziness. Either that or just meet civilians out and about for legit dating. I'd say the gas station, grocery store, or any bar are consistently easier places to meet than on one of those sites. Or you could always just UTR it.

[Grain 56]

You can always copy and past a random pic from the Internet that sorta looks like you. Others' have posted that they do this and never had an issue when they do see the girl.

Spot on Vino. To do something else, like tell them the "Dead President" line suggested earlier, will do nothing but get you blocked from what possibly could be a great provider.

Same with a dick pic. In fact, that pic doesn't even have to be that close. LOL.

Carlosa's false car type suggestion is in the same ballpark. Never give them accurate info. Keep yourself totally in control as much as possible. Once they see you, IF you choose to meet her after seeing her, it won't matter anyway.

Anyone that says they don't care as they have nothing to hide is foolish.

Grain 56.

[Vino 7373]

You can always copy and past a random pic from the Internet that sorta looks like you. Others' have posted that they do this and never had an issue when they do see the girl.

[HitmanLeet]

That's smart, I'ma have to use that line on them the next time they ask for my pic. Recently a lot of providers I contact been asking to see a pic, before they send a pic and most times I just tell them forget it and block them. But next time I'll try saying this LOL.

I'm on the fence, kinda.

But I'm not sending a pic.

I asked a couple of the girls I know about this and about my reluctance.

They both responded the same.

"But yall have no problem asking for pictures of us "?

My response was.

We want pictures of what you're selling, yall get the only pictures from us that really matter to you, pictures of dead presidents.

We had to agree to disagree, even though I'm more right.

[Gslvs69]

Has anyone had a dream about her recently? I was about to recently and had a pretty bad experience. Seniors only, PM. Me please.

Yes I saw her recently and as always had an amazing time. She is sexy as hell with a great body, long black hair and light completion. She has a very sweet disposition and loves to please. There should be a line waiting for her BBBJCIM as it one the best I've ever had and I've had many. She did very recently have a baby so her availability might be erratic.

[DrP60]

Coming to town next week and will have 3 nights to have some fun. I have a nice room at Marriott downtown and actually have some free time. Looking to find a nice lady for evening or spend the night. I'm limited to 6 Franklin roses. My preference is clean and spinner type but if attitude is great and a freak I'm game. I like a full menu but will compromise. Love some help finding a trustworthy one. Please message me!! I have been a long time member up near Knoxville and appreciate the group here. Also I have a nice place for 3 nights, if anyone has an ideas on how we can make the evenings fun, message me. A party or group is an option. Just can't get kicked out of hotel.

Deziah might be a good option for one of your evenings and I'll.

DM you on details and you can do a search on her positive reviews.

Be safe.

[Redmv800]

Had a visit with this young lady and wanted to share my experience for fellow mongers. I got her info from Bruna and went to see her at a motel on IDrive area across form The Eye. Based on the pics Brunna provided, I can say she was the girl in the pics (face was blurred, but body was nice). We started with typical action; as she met me at the door in bra and panties performed a quick LEO check (grabbing the boys) and and then she asked for 2 $$ but agreed to $. 80 after I declined initially. Normal BBBJ and then covered cowgirl to doggie to mish and done. She has a few rules. Does not like FIV or rougher sex. This was the only "meh" part of the encounter as she stops on a dime when you go a little harder. I can also tell she smokes regularly.

Summary: Great body, a little picky but not a deal breaker and the smoker is a personal thing for me, but I am not into DFK and prefer doggy and cowgirl so its not a huge issue. A great lunchtime getaway for a HH. I would see her again in a pinch.

I am sure she advertises under some variation of "mila".

Red.

[ReeperJ690]

Coming to town next week and will have 3 nights to have some fun. I have a nice room at Marriott downtown and actually have some free time. Looking to find a nice lady for evening or spend the night. I'm limited to 6 Franklin roses. My preference is clean and spinner type but if attitude is great and a freak I'm game. I like a full menu but will compromise. Love some help finding a trustworthy one. Please message me!! I have been a long time member up near Knoxville and appreciate the group here. Also I have a nice place for 3 nights, if anyone has an ideas on how we can make the evenings fun, message me. A party or group is an option. Just can't get kicked out of hotel.

[Orlo69]

Gentleman, thank you for all your help and advice with my trip. Hopefully I will have a great time as I pass through Atlanta.

Stay safe.

Orlo69.