Non Pro's

[Michael1967]

Went to text almost immediately. Quoted $500-1000, came down to $400. I really didn't care about spending that much on someone who won't show her face. Or meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-7e2b31c3790a

Seriously, why would you even speak to her? Her profile is just anger.

[Irwin18]

Went to text almost immediately. Quoted $500-1000, came down to $400. I really didn't care about spending that much on someone who won't show her face. Or meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-7e2b31c3790a

[Bronco62]

Light chatting, off to text where she said her ppm starts at 500-1000. I wish her well.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...c-24b7fdb17df8

Got the same response, said bb is ok with recent test.

[Irwin18]

Light chatting, off to text where she said her ppm starts at 500-1000. I wish her well.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...c-24b7fdb17df8

[Michael1967]

The prototypical place I go in the Seattle area is one of the Daniel's Broiler locations.

A little bit down the scale but still generally nice (and great for eating outside in the summer) is Anthony's Home Port.

I usually try and make sure the restaurant is independent (though using a popular name like Anthony's or Daniel's Broiler will be a plus for them when they brag to their friends), usually I get out with $175-200 total including drinks. Tip may make it slightly over $200. The one warning about this is that you DO NOT want to take her to a place where they offer $500+ bottles of wine. People that normally drink White Claw suddenly turn into expensive wine aficionados.

[MilfHunter66]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-04b62aabf6a4

Another $5 for ppm. Maybe worth it but I'm not going to TOFTT at that price. Her account is new so maybe after a bit she will come down a bit.

[Marko Ramius]

What is a typical nice place that you usually go to? Like $20 cocktail? 45 $ dinner plate? I'm curious about the scale of how fancy a place you pick to impress. Thanks for the tip!

The prototypical place I go in the Seattle area is one of the Daniel's Broiler locations.

A little bit down the scale but still generally nice (and great for eating outside in the summer) is Anthony's Home Port.

[Jy2019]

My own experience has been that if you take any of these girls to a really nice restaurant you will be taking her all the way to pound town later that night. Most of these girls have never been to anything nicer than Applebees. It is actually fun watching their facial expression when they read the menu and see the prices and also how their body language changes.

So nine times out of ten I score if I take them someplace nice.

The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.

What is a typical nice place that you usually go to? Like $20 cocktail? 45 $ dinner plate? I'm curious about the scale of how fancy a place you pick to impress. Thanks for the tip!

[VanDawg]

My own experience has been that if you take any of these girls to a really nice restaurant you will be taking her all the way to pound town later that night. Most of these girls have never been to anything nicer than Applebees. It is actually fun watching their facial expression when they read the menu and see the prices and also how their body language changes.

So nine times out of ten I score if I take them someplace nice.

The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.

Yes for sure, and the sex is better after the fancy place, their attitude changes, compared to giving them some cash.

But I don't take them there before we've met for coffee or something quick. To make sure they are real, match their pics, and not insane.

There are lots of girls on there either naive or tired of dating broke losers that are happy to spread their legs for a guy that can show them a good time. They've done worse before! If it's more like regular dating then they are more likely to CIP, swallow, etc.

[MilfHunter66]

Brie310 https://members.seeking.com/member/8...c-48f7668fa16a.

2 pics, eventually moved to snapchat. Longterm turned into prepay PPM. M&G? "I don't do M&G".

Latinnurse https://members.seeking.com/member/8...0-75b5ca9c54ec.

Needed $$$ right away for bills, kept coming down in arrangement price eventually tried to sell pics.

Good luck and buh-bye. I can't figure out if this is organized or a template passed around that girls / catfish use to score quick cash, or just bad business. I believe they're local, but I see them online most of the day which makes it look like they're fishing for suckers. If it's legit practice there must be enough guys willing to gamble away their money, something that I will never do myself.

The ask for cash upfront after spicy talk and assurances is a waste of time and getting in the way of legit negotiations. I think I might start demanding a selfie holding up x fingers before even engaging.

I have spent far to much time and energy on that site.

There are way to many gals just looking for a quick buck with no intentions of meeting or being with you. I've had four actual meet ups. One scammed me pretty good. One I could look into her eyes an tell she had no soul. One is still out for debate. The last one I'm seeing tomorrow for a date that should include some adult fun. If that works out that's 25% success rate after meeting.

Then there's all the ones that I wasted time on online or through text. Once they realized I wasn't going to fall for there scam they were gone.

Had one gal I was texting with that was there to keep me just on the site. She must be getting paid to talk with guys. She was giving me answers to questions I didn't ask. Today I told her I was off work. The reply back was have a nice day at work. WTF have I've been texting with a bot.

Then there's the ones you have a good feel about. The messages are really looking like there interested in you. Then nothing. They have been online several days but still haven't read the last message you sent. They never reply back.

I'm at a point where I have zero patients any longer. If it looks like I'm remotely being played I end the Convo and block.

If I was closer to Seattle I'm sure there would be a bigger pool of legit gals. Since I've been targeting the Tacoma area and south the real ones are far and few between.

Sorry for my rant. I think it's time just to go back to the real pro's.

[Mamouna]

Brie310 https://members.seeking.com/member/8...c-48f7668fa16a.

2 pics, eventually moved to snapchat. Longterm turned into prepay PPM. M&G? "I don't do M&G".

Latinnurse https://members.seeking.com/member/8...0-75b5ca9c54ec.

Needed $$$ right away for bills, kept coming down in arrangement price eventually tried to sell pics.

Good luck and buh-bye. I can't figure out if this is organized or a template passed around that girls / catfish use to score quick cash, or just bad business. I believe they're local, but I see them online most of the day which makes it look like they're fishing for suckers. If it's legit practice there must be enough guys willing to gamble away their money, something that I will never do myself.

The ask for cash upfront after spicy talk and assurances is a waste of time and getting in the way of legit negotiations. I think I might start demanding a selfie holding up x fingers before even engaging.

[KarlHungus76]

Anyone have any intel on this one. I can't read messages there, so I'm unable to correspond with her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...0-62333a59b1a5

[MartyByrde]

The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.

You can just say it's your first ever date with her. Even say it is a blind date. That should cover it.

[Marko Ramius]

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I'm pretty hesitant to take them anywhere high end on the first meet unless we have chatted a lot. Sometimes it pays off with free action after (drinks helps).

The last thing you want is to drop $300 on a meal and she's a lame duck.

My own experience has been that if you take any of these girls to a really nice restaurant you will be taking her all the way to pound town later that night. Most of these girls have never been to anything nicer than Applebees. It is actually fun watching their facial expression when they read the menu and see the prices and also how their body language changes.

So nine times out of ten I score if I take them someplace nice.

The big concern I have is that if one of these girls with a mental health issue has a freakout at a public place with me and having to explain to the waitstaff and possibly the cops how I know her.

[VanDawg]

I don't entertain any "non pros" who want to be paid by the hour, platonic or not.

A very modest "gift" for a platonic first meeting is okay. And I sincerely doubt any girl could earn a decent living getting paid $50 to go to lunch. Also there is kind of an inverse sliding scale where the nicer the restaurant I take them to, the less I am willing to pay as a "gift". Down to the point where if it is a serious high-end restaurant there is no way I am gifting anything. Since I am usually hitting up girls from smaller towns the local restaurants aren't usually very impressive.

The girls who are serious about this and need the money are going to move things to a more intimate level pretty quickly. Usually you can tell in the first fifteen or twenty minutes at the restaurant whether it is going to be on for that night.

I agree this is generally good advice. Personally I don't pay for any dinner dates if they ask, but if they don't and you get the right vibe, you can slip them $50 or something after the date and that can pay off well.

I'm pretty hesitant to take them anywhere high end on the first meet unless we have chatted a lot. Sometimes it pays off with free action after (drinks helps).

The last thing you want is to drop $300 on a meal and she's a lame duck.