NoVA SugarBabies

[TheYoungMonger]

Must have been about 2-3 years ago. Not sure what she's doing these days but she was au pairing at the time around the Tysons area. Recently reconnected with her briefly when my profile was active and she asked for $500. I laughed and passed.

Had her too, but for 700. When did you do for 300? Was this like 2 years ago, or 5 lol? Hard to believe she was accepting 300 with how she acts now.

[Mcsylv]

Had her for $300 PPM, au pair from Colombia.

Nothing special, pretty face but a flat chest and an underwhelming rest of body. Sex was pretty vanilla and boring. Def couldn't recommend for 6-700.

Had her too, but for 700. When did you do for 300? Was this like 2 years ago, or 5 lol? Hard to believe she was accepting 300 with how she acts now.

Everything Arty says is accurate. I can also attest to this. I've had 3 prior SBs who were bottle service girls, echostage, etc. Their snap feeds were filled with boat parties and nights out. Each was super hot. Each stayed with me for months at a time for a ppm allowance of $300-$400 because I was reliable, treated them well, and half decent in the sack. Guys who have yatchs with cereal bars know that they can bang a new hot girl every night and treat the girls as such. All three were in that lifestyle.

One of the young ladies in my current rotation likes to go through seeking messages she receives with me. We've been together long enough that I know I'm one of two or three daddies she will keep in rotation. Since we've been together she's been ghosted by plenty of dudes after a night or two and so has gotten much more selective about who she will see.

There are legit SDs with massive amounts of cash who buy shitloads of gifts off her wishlist, just to get her attention. Most of those dudes are old and fat. So they need something to give them an edge. If you aren't willing to do that, you need some other in to get your foot through the door. Whether it's by promising a higher allowance, taking better care of yourself, or forcing yourself to make conversations with random strangers to get more comfortable with talking to these ladies so that you have the confidence to seal the deal later.

Basically, long story short, no need to worry about the mega millionaire dudes. If you had the funds to afford a professional sugar baby, trust me, you wouldn't be on this site. As for the rest of the ladies in the sugar bowl, it takes more than just cash or gifts to be successful.

Happy hunting gents.

Why did the bottle girls eventually leave you? Snagged by someone richer, moved away, got a boyfriend, or you don't know and they ghosted? Or better yet, did you drop them? That'd be quite something.

Did they not take up the rich dude's offers because they made decent money slinging bottles, so they didn't need $2k from a rich asshole to pump and dump them? Or did they still fuck those guys too?

Do the girls in that industry talk about sugaring with their coworkers or friends? In the vanilla world, girls giving dick reviews of dudes to their friends (how good he is in the sack) is apparently a common thing. GDR = Good Dick Review, BDR = Bad DR. A dude with a GDR has a high chance of banging her friends, according to female blogs and podcasts I've heard. Not sure if the same is true for sugaring, did your bottle girl SB's ever talk about getting one of their girlfriends onto SA? I know you were trying to get a current SB to find a 3some partner, not sure if it would have been easier if you were still hooked into the nightclub girls.

So what you're saying is, being an average-looking man instead of a fat man shaves off hundreds or thousands from the PPM. I have never had a single girl agree to 300 PPM, much less a bottle girl. I always start at 300 PPM for dinner dates when negotiating. I do everything you do with regards to respect, game, ability in the sack, etc. I'm just obese.

Interesting that even in the world of pay for play, looks end up mattering more than money.

[TheYoungMonger]

Had her for $300 PPM, au pair from Colombia.

Nothing special, pretty face but a flat chest and an underwhelming rest of body. Sex was pretty vanilla and boring. Def couldn't recommend for 6-700.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...b-c14aed282fc1

https://instagram.com/damariscampov?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

6 to 7 YMMV.

[Arty33]

Sharing a couple that are real and willing to meet. But did not.

Carla. Ready to meet, private pics look thicker, but thought hey try some variety if sexy enough in person, she wants ppm first date itself, fine by me, but pretends not knowing what she has to do for it. If she doesn't know that she needs to drop the panties then she's looking for some sucker to pay for M&G.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...5-95e55be65b77

Day_umm. Ready for ppm meet, but dragging her feet along to move things, dropped pursuit.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-caba8f330913

[ProCatHunter]

Everything Arty says is accurate. I can also attest to this. I've had 3 prior SBs who were bottle service girls, echostage, etc. Their snap feeds were filled with boat parties and nights out. Each was super hot. Each stayed with me for months at a time for a ppm allowance of $300-$400 because I was reliable, treated them well, and half decent in the sack. Guys who have yatchs with cereal bars know that they can bang a new hot girl every night and treat the girls as such. All three were in that lifestyle.

One of the young ladies in my current rotation likes to go through seeking messages she receives with me. We've been together long enough that I know I'm one of two or three daddies she will keep in rotation. Since we've been together she's been ghosted by plenty of dudes after a night or two and so has gotten much more selective about who she will see.

There are legit SDs with massive amounts of cash who buy shitloads of gifts off her wishlist, just to get her attention. Most of those dudes are old and fat. So they need something to give them an edge. If you aren't willing to do that, you need some other in to get your foot through the door. Whether it's by promising a higher allowance, taking better care of yourself, or forcing yourself to make conversations with random strangers to get more comfortable with talking to these ladies so that you have the confidence to seal the deal later.

Basically, long story short, no need to worry about the mega millionaire dudes. If you had the funds to afford a professional sugar baby, trust me, you wouldn't be on this site. As for the rest of the ladies in the sugar bowl, it takes more than just cash or gifts to be successful.

Happy hunting gents.

While I agree with everything in the previous post, the thought that came to mind is same, it is all about numbers and law of averages. These girls who go on yachts and not all invited, it is sometimes they know a friend who is invited, or a friend of a friend, and gets to tag along. The rich dudes with the yacht and cereal bar the size of McDonalds don't care how many girls are coming to eat his cereal. LOL. I mean so long as they are relatively hot they get to go. Ugly and out of shape chicks are out of luck.

So, yes we are in a way competing, but no so because 99% of these girls don't get to score with the rich dudes, they have a lot to chose from and a few lucky ones get it, even among those who do, the guys will drop them after a night and a few bucks or some expensive gifts. They go find the next hot girl, as there is always another party as said where hot chicks are flocking to. So, if we aren't settling for one hot girl then why would the rich dudes settle for one, so they come back to bowl, expect same, but when they don't get it, and they don't get another rich guy, they'll settle for us. I have fucked at least two such girls who could easily be on a yacht hanging out with the rich hot guys. These girls are back to earth probably, but may be still waiting their chance, remember they only have time until about 25 or so, after that no one wants them. I don't these days see anyone who look older than 25.

Bottomline, yeah they may wish to get paid for M&G and big expensive gifts, but aren't getting it, they can try their luck on the yacht if they get invited, fine by me, there will always be spillover ad the percentage of rich guys and the proportion of hot girls are not even.

[HelloSd1990]

Nah, wants 750 - 800 firm.

I guess I'm fugly now since everyone wants to charge me fugly prices.

I met her out next to the Starbucks by her apartment. She's too Asian looking in person for me. Pics look better than what she looks in real life. I made an excuse to go to my car and dipped.

[HelloSd1990]

New here to the forums wish I knew this existed. Long time SA user since like 2017?

Anyways has anyone bagged Mariposa?

Would like to hear experiences.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...b-d2fd053ce4f7

Also I'm talking to MysticalGorgeous any reviews on her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-49fd62d7bbb7

Talking to Nillaaa, would like intel. Always skeptical on ghettoness of MD girls.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...5-f7ed2d698652

[CruisingXX]

Traveling to Costa Rica in the spring. From reading other forums, I know that pro's are prevalent and fairly easy to connect with. However, thinking that the SB route could be rewarding. Staying in a nice house on the beach, and having a different young lady each night (or maybe a couple of repeats) would be awesome.

I used seeking about 2 months ago in Costa Rica, it was excellent, best results are in San Jose. If you go to the beach areas like Jaco, it's best to just go to the bar's and par take on the extensive choices in person and negotiate live. Enjoy.

[Pathfinder04]

FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.

Venezuela seems like a hotspot. 😅.

[TomFordModel]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...b-c14aed282fc1

https://instagram.com/damariscampov?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

6 to 7 YMMV.

[JustLikeThe]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...d-29ef488c817e

Asks for 200. Location in Venezuela.

[NeedXtra]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...3-c9e0f27185b7

I am always suspicious when they give me their number right away and don't ask to see my pics.

She / he will share pics of some only fans model or some such bs.

I waited for her to send me pics vids and promised to pay $50. When she sent them, ai informed her / him that I made the payment on the only fans model's website.

[DCKing]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...3-c9e0f27185b7

I am always suspicious when they give me their number right away and don't ask to see my pics.

[Arty33]

While I agree with everything in the previous post, the thought that came to mind is same, it is all about numbers and law of averages. These girls who go on yachts and not all invited, it is sometimes they know a friend who is invited, or a friend of a friend, and gets to tag along. The rich dudes with the yacht and cereal bar the size of McDonalds don't care how many girls are coming to eat his cereal. LOL. I mean so long as they are relatively hot they get to go. Ugly and out of shape chicks are out of luck.

So, yes we are in a way competing, but no so because 99% of these girls don't get to score with the rich dudes, they have a lot to chose from and a few lucky ones get it, even among those who do, the guys will drop them after a night and a few bucks or some expensive gifts. They go find the next hot girl, as there is always another party as said where hot chicks are flocking to. So, if we aren't settling for one hot girl then why would the rich dudes settle for one, so they come back to bowl, expect same, but when they don't get it, and they don't get another rich guy, they'll settle for us. I have fucked at least two such girls who could easily be on a yacht hanging out with the rich hot guys. These girls are back to earth probably, but may be still waiting their chance, remember they only have time until about 25 or so, after that no one wants them. I don't these days see anyone who look older than 25.

Bottomline, yeah they may wish to get paid for M&G and big expensive gifts, but aren't getting it, they can try their luck on the yacht if they get invited, fine by me, there will always be spillover ad the percentage of rich guys and the proportion of hot girls are not even.

All you say is true and I do not disagree but here are some facts, only 0. 1% of Americans make over $1 M / year. The guys you speak of make way more than that and are an even smaller percentage of the 0. 1%. Sure these girls swim in both pools and we are competing with these guys for the same girls and of course a girl is going to choose one of these guys over us if given the choice but for every 1 of them, there are 999 of us, probably more like 9999 of us. Yes, these guys will get a disproportionate percentage of girls since I'm sure they like to fuck more than one of them but by our sheer numbers, we will get the majority of the girls. That's why regular guys like you and me each can have a small stable of SBs. Maybe they are not a good looking as the girls the top 1% of the top 0. 1% will get, but we find diamonds in the rough. And sure, the really good looking girls don't have to work as SBs or as hard as the uglier ones to get what they want but that has always been true. Good looking chicks get the best looking and the richest guys (as well as rich ugly guys) but that has also always been true. So not all is doom and gloom otherwise this thread would not exist.

[Old Chinese Guy]

The rich dudes may not be on SA, but the girls they fuck are on Seeking, as well as dabbling in just hanging out with the yacht crowd and freestyling. I know this because I've literally had M&G's with them.

Earlier this year, had a dinner M&G with a bottle girl who works at Opera in DC. I knew her before I found her SA profile because she's friends with another bottle girl that I'm friends with, so I found her IG. When we met, I made the mistake of spilling the beans after she said she worked at a couple clubs in DC that I used to go to. Told her I knew this person and that person, are they still around, etc. That probably scared her off, she didn't like that I knew all these people who knew her. Either that or it's because I don't drive a Benz lmao.

I've also talked on SA with a bottle girl out in Vegas, although it didn't get to a M&G. Point I'm trying to make is, these girls are on SA and out in the wild hanging out on yachts. If one of the rich guys propositions her first, well then she's going to stop talking to you on SA even though you were setting up a M&G or discussing allowance or whatever. The rich dudes don't swim in the SA pool, the girls they fuck and you fuck are the ones swimming in both pools.

All you say is true and I do not disagree but here are some facts, only 0. 1% of Americans make over $1 M / year. The guys you speak of make way more than that and are an even smaller percentage of the 0. 1%. Sure these girls swim in both pools and we are competing with these guys for the same girls and of course a girl is going to choose one of these guys over us if given the choice but for every 1 of them, there are 999 of us, probably more like 9999 of us. Yes, these guys will get a disproportionate percentage of girls since I'm sure they like to fuck more than one of them but by our sheer numbers, we will get the majority of the girls. That's why regular guys like you and me each can have a small stable of SBs. Maybe they are not a good looking as the girls the top 1% of the top 0. 1% will get, but we find diamonds in the rough. And sure, the really good looking girls don't have to work as SBs or as hard as the uglier ones to get what they want but that has always been true. Good looking chicks get the best looking and the richest guys (as well as rich ugly guys) but that has also always been true. So not all is doom and gloom otherwise this thread would not exist.