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[Old Chinese Guy]

The rich dudes may not be on SA, but the girls they fuck are on Seeking, as well as dabbling in just hanging out with the yacht crowd and freestyling. I know this because I've literally had M&G's with them.

Earlier this year, had a dinner M&G with a bottle girl who works at Opera in DC. I knew her before I found her SA profile because she's friends with another bottle girl that I'm friends with, so I found her IG. When we met, I made the mistake of spilling the beans after she said she worked at a couple clubs in DC that I used to go to. Told her I knew this person and that person, are they still around, etc. That probably scared her off, she didn't like that I knew all these people who knew her. Either that or it's because I don't drive a Benz lmao.

I've also talked on SA with a bottle girl out in Vegas, although it didn't get to a M&G. Point I'm trying to make is, these girls are on SA and out in the wild hanging out on yachts. If one of the rich guys propositions her first, well then she's going to stop talking to you on SA even though you were setting up a M&G or discussing allowance or whatever. The rich dudes don't swim in the SA pool, the girls they fuck and you fuck are the ones swimming in both pools.

All you say is true and I do not disagree but here are some facts, only 0. 1% of Americans make over $1 M / year. The guys you speak of make way more than that and are an even smaller percentage of the 0. 1%. Sure these girls swim in both pools and we are competing with these guys for the same girls and of course a girl is going to choose one of these guys over us if given the choice but for every 1 of them, there are 999 of us, probably more like 9999 of us. Yes, these guys will get a disproportionate percentage of girls since I'm sure they like to fuck more than one of them but by our sheer numbers, we will get the majority of the girls. That's why regular guys like you and me each can have a small stable of SBs. Maybe they are not a good looking as the girls the top 1% of the top 0. 1% will get, but we find diamonds in the rough. And sure, the really good looking girls don't have to work as SBs or as hard as the uglier ones to get what they want but that has always been true. Good looking chicks get the best looking and the richest guys (as well as rich ugly guys) but that has also always been true. So not all is doom and gloom otherwise this thread would not exist.

[Mcsylv]

I do agree everything is relative.

But I have to disagree here.

If I have a yacht, mansion, and millions in my bank account then I am not wasting time on SA trying to find young pussies. These guys are not my competitions on SA.

The rich dudes may not be on SA, but the girls they fuck are on Seeking, as well as dabbling in just hanging out with the yacht crowd and freestyling. I know this because I've literally had M&G's with them.

Earlier this year, had a dinner M&G with a bottle girl who works at Opera in DC. I knew her before I found her SA profile because she's friends with another bottle girl that I'm friends with, so I found her IG. When we met, I made the mistake of spilling the beans after she said she worked at a couple clubs in DC that I used to go to. Told her I knew this person and that person, are they still around, etc. That probably scared her off, she didn't like that I knew all these people who knew her. Either that or it's because I don't drive a Benz lmao.

I've also talked on SA with a bottle girl out in Vegas, although it didn't get to a M&G. Point I'm trying to make is, these girls are on SA and out in the wild hanging out on yachts. If one of the rich guys propositions her first, well then she's going to stop talking to you on SA even though you were setting up a M&G or discussing allowance or whatever. The rich dudes don't swim in the SA pool, the girls they fuck and you fuck are the ones swimming in both pools.

Seen her quite a few times. 300 was the damage. All holes open BBFS. Was a good time but like op said super ghetto and smells like smoke. You can taste it when you kiss her. It's not weed, I'm not sure exactly what it is. She has a very slim body, tattoos all over as well as under her eye. I stopped seeing her after she, without my permission started smoking in my hotel bathroom. I kept it cool but I was steaming. How are you going to smoke in a non smoking room? Are you that much of a fiend that you can't wait till you leave? Next time I saw her was my last. She smoked in the Airbnb I rented and burned her he owners bathroom table and left ashes all over. I didn't see if check but got a surprise email message from the owner asking me to pay for the table.

I'm glad she didn't do that to me lmao. I noticed the smell on her breath too. Her Bush was also huge, and she has curly black girl hair so it was all clumpy and knotted. Such a turnoff. She said she was getting waxed soon, maybe it will be better.

While the PP's post hits the point on DC being one of the richest in the nation with guys that can throw away money, the girls that frequent them aren't likely on SA, and I am yet to see a hot 22 year old real cheerleader on SA anyway. One of the girls I was seeing told me there are guys who offer 5 k meet, but they also want the girls to do many things that no one will want to do, and that's reason for those offers. Think of fetishes that are way outside normal and these guys have weird vibes that scares them away. I don't think a rich and successful guy with the yacht is trolling on SA, hitting up 100's of profiles with 90% of them being fake, flake, or catfish. The truth is in between blue collar guys and the rich dudes with yachts. It is a mixed bag when it comes to guys as well as gals on SA, they run the middle spectrum of the society for the most part, with some outliers possible.

Yea there's the weirdos who offer $5 k to piss on girls, but there's also regular dudes with a lot of money who nab these girls up too. Also, the best girls aren't on SA because they usually don't need to put out that much effort to snare a high value man. Here's an example:

You guys know Sean McVay, the head coach of the LA Rams? Won the Superbowl last year, youngest NFL head coach ever, youngest Superbowl coach ever, etc etc. Well, he actually used to work for the Redskins. He was our Offensive Coordinator a while back, he was a TE coach before that.

McVay's wife is a girl named Veronika McVay (Khomyn). Super hot Ukrainian babe, you can Google her. They met when she was a student at George Mason and doing modeling and bottle service on the side, and he was a TE coach. As he got promotions, he's making pretty decent money. Even as just a TE coach, he's making low to mid 6 figures at least, and as an OC he's making near 7 figures or just over. Now as the Rams' HC and having won a Super Bowl, he makes an estimated 15 - 18 M, highest paid HC of all time. And, no homo but Sean McVay is a good looking dude, young and in shape.

This is what being a truly hot girl can get you, if you network correctly and aren't a fucked up druggie. A multi-millionaire hot guy your age that you'd be fucking anyway, but now he comes with a California mansion and insane clout as basically the best head coach this side of Bill Belichick. Veronika scored him without having to screen through a single fucked up offer to shit on her feet for $4 k, as far as I know.

She's not the only one BTW. I knew Veronika before she was e-famous too, when she was a bottle girl. She has a bunch of hot friends who all have high value boyfriends. One dude owns an Alfa Romeo dealership, another dude idk what he does but he and her are always on yachts together. For some reason the dude never smiles in photos with her LOL. All of them are 40 or under, and good looking.

Point is, yes these girls exist, some are on Seeking and some aren't. They def receive attention from very rich and very hot dudes, and these guys make it easy for the girls to enjoy the good life without having to step on SA. Some do still step on SA, but even then they got a foot in both lawns, and whichever has greener grass atm is the one they pitch a blanket on and strip naked to tan. Sometimes it's an SA dude, most likely one offering much more than $300 PPM. Many times it's rich dudes that meet them socially.

Maybe they have an assistant doing it for them. I learned to about seeking from another bored in Texas. They had a regular sb section like this and more affluent section for a much higher dollar threshold. Those were the global SD's. Stories of yachts, flying sb out and the such. Just because this community supports a particular course of action does mean all will.

In Texas it was widely accepted that the sb, even on this level, would go to dinner, have some hotel fun, then discuss an arrangement. It was like tryouts and it was awesome. That was years ago. Paying before hand was really condemned by that community and it held up well for a while.

Pay don't pay it's all up to you. But as was said, if I can get a piece to show up for nice dinner and reasonable payment, I weigh time vs investment. Some on here act as if others are completely ruining their game by doing this. It's an evolving free market, maybe one of the last free ones LOL.

Rich dudes sometimes have assistants, sometimes they don't need them. The tech bro paying $20 k to date Sophia Mudd met her at a mansion party in Beverly Hills. The party was thrown by his buddy who runs a modeling and influencer company.

I'm nowhere near their level, but even I've been invited to high-value, exclusive events. Went to Pinterest HQ in 2018 to hear a talk by their founders (both billionaires now) about their starting days and why they decided to found Pinterest. Coolest part about their HQ is that they have

1. A huge lego board about 20 feet x 20 feet, decorated with their name and all these other designs and motifs, and it hangs on the wall near their entrance.

2. They have a fucking massive cereal bar. Like 20 dispensers with every brand you can think of, from healthy shit to Cocoa Puffs. 3 industrial-sized refrigerators with every type of milk you could want. A whole wall of cabinets with different bowls and cutlery. The whole area had to be at least the size of a McDonalds building, and it was just for cereal. I didn't partake.

I've been invited to a private dinner event in some dude's mansion backyard in the hills overlooking San Jose. I knew it was serious when I pull up in my rental car and there's literally the thing you see in movies, that roundabout in front of the house with a fountain in the middle. Walk through the house and there's Greek sculptures in the corners. Walk out to the back yard and it's got 3 terraces built into 3 levels that goes down to lawn level. Huge fountain out back too. After dinner, we got to hear from the VP of Marketing for Samsung talk about WTF they were doing when their phones were fucking exploding and TSA banned them from going on airplanes.

Keep in mind, these are just the business events. These aren't the private parties or fun events where the hot chicks come as +1's or atmosphere models are hired to stand around and look beautiful. And, I'm fucking broke compared to the rest of the attendees, they probably get access to way better shit than I do. They could easily meet more than enough potential sugar babies without ever going on SA if they didn't want to. Hell, at that level of wealth, just live in LA, Vegas, or NYC and shell out $25 k on bottles for a couple weekends. Your name will get passed around and the bottle girls open to sucking and fucking for a nice Hollywood Hills apartment and a Mercedes will make themselves known.

All valid points. DC, Nova Babies that are in their 30's, out of shape & not attractive get $400 plus. It's why I Sugar from Fredericksburg south, including the rest of Virginia and all of North Carolina. My allowance is usually $300, as low as $200, no higher that $400, but only rarely $400. If I were to post pics of my top 10, over the last three years you'd be shocked. Including two 18 why o hammers, all the rest, 20-23 y o, one 31 y o that could pass for 21.

Bottom line, I'm not buying a mansion in Beverly Hills or Sugaring in DC. I did do a 22 y o Nova ebony princess, but when she was in college at a state school in Virginia.

$300, did her twice alone then brought her to my buddies lake house for some MFM fun. She stayed the night for $300 each. Unlimited pops, BB everything, no Greek. Unfortunately now that she moved back with mommy & daddy, she's out of the game & deleted her Seeking profile.

I wish I liked black or asian girls, it'd open up my options immensely. I only like white girls or white-skinned latinas, preferably with straight hair.

I also would sugar away from DC, but I don't have time to be driving down to Richmond or Charlottesville. I think for normal dudes, it's way better to live near Ohio State or Arizona State or something, college towns where there's not as many rich men but plenty of hot young women. The big cities are more advantageous for men with means.

[TopGun9]

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[Max #01]

FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.

Thank you! I'd never considered Seeking in Europe. (I'm assuming the 330 ppm was £300 versus $300 - still a bargain!

[Rudy Wellz]

FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.

Traveling to Costa Rica in the spring. From reading other forums, I know that pro's are prevalent and fairly easy to connect with. However, thinking that the SB route could be rewarding. Staying in a nice house on the beach, and having a different young lady each night (or maybe a couple of repeats) would be awesome.

[MilesNoDavis]

What can I say, I posted couple of detailed reports and a day later got promptly blocked by one of them, for no other reason. I don't get blocked by SBs that I have met, even if I part ways with them, so this definitely is connected to the white knighting or someone who didn't get the response they wanted sent over to spite her. The other possibility I am willing to consider is some of these girls are reading this forum as well, possible. But, I have enough being burned to suspect leak. Anyhow, I only report on those who I don't wish to see, even then will in future only share bare minimum information, such as she's real or not. Trusted seniors who shares information can always DM. This ain't cool.

I don't even bother to openly share information anymore. I've been blocked or given enough clues by some SBs who I'm certain have seen my reports here. If it's not a request via DM, I keep my fingers silent and comments to myself.

[AdcFellow]

FYI: I am posting this information here, since I am not sure where else to post. Recently used Seeking while on a business trip to Europe. It works extremely well in London (much better than in DC). I had a new date every night with a top quality young woman for about 300 ppm. Two of the nights they stayed the entire night. I highly recommend. I realize that escorts are plentiful there as well, but I found the quality / ease on Seeking to exceed all expectations.

[Mandane]

I'll be damned, I was for sure she wasn't real. Thanks for the intel.

Instead of the thread search I have changed to always use the site wide search in the menu bar above. Pulls in the reports from the Baltimore and Richmond area for local chicks and is really useful for finding pros or semi pros. This on had reports in Atlanta and Charlotte.

[NeedXtra]

What can I say, I posted couple of detailed reports and a day later got promptly blocked by one of them, for no other reason. I don't get blocked by SBs that I have met, even if I part ways with them, so this definitely is connected to the white knighting or someone who didn't get the response they wanted sent over to spite her. The other possibility I am willing to consider is some of these girls are reading this forum as well, possible. But, I have enough being burned to suspect leak. Anyhow, I only report on those who I don't wish to see, even then will in future only share bare minimum information, such as she's real or not. Trusted seniors who shares information can always DM. This ain't cool.

I posted a feedback on one of the girls you talked about and I'm now blocked.

I have used the information shared by others without giving it away and being careful about what I talked about. I wish the idiots sharing info with SBs used their brains for once. Sadly, I don't think that's likely to happen.

[Arty33]

Good news is that 3 out of 3 have accepted the cuts proposed, two tried to push back a little but came around quickly, so far 100% success in placing reduced rates on all established SBs except the newest one. One of them although agreed, I am yet to see her at new rates since her attitude also have regressed, just going through motions, so I have taken the approach of will see her whenever, and she's back being active on SA searching for new SDs. I can't share because I may still see her when she's tired looking someone who will meet her specific demands outside of allowance. On the other economic news lareg layoffs are coming, so things will get ugly soon, and may see the bowl also flooded as many SDs may have to stop paying for the M&G money, and $500 for MILF age lady's who should not be sugaring honestly. I am looking at 500 range for cute college co-ed's soon.

I've thrown the gauntlet down with all except the newest of my SBs to go lower, couple of them right off bat said will accept half way, but I am holding until they come all the way down. Worst case they end up back in bowl and get hit with a sh*tstorm, then perhaps come back to me. Some of them may get hurt with their pride and inflated sense of being valued, not understanding the deal is still good. I am okay if they all drop off, but happy to keep seeing them at the reduced rates. If the bowl gets busy and rates drop then I will get replacements eventually. Let's see how this goes.

[Arty33]

What kind of dumbfuck idea is it to tell her you read good reviews on her, how's that supposed to get you pu$y, it'll do the opposite by scaring them off. Most of these girls want discretion. Geez. Anyhow the girl who blocked me I wasn't planning on seeing, but didn't appreciate the fact she may have got wind of it, because just a day before that she was texting me keeping the chat alive. Once a girl texted me me the whole thing posted saying some guy called xyz (she named his SA profile but I am not going to reveal it here) sent to her on SA. On the flip side, I am thankful for guys like this with no game, as hunter say that's why the rest of us are able to get pu$$y, since the girls are running away from the disgusting approach, then the weird guys who sent s message about licking them in strange places etc (LOL it's real one of my SBs told me a guy offered her 5 K month allowance, but he had to tie her up and do things like licking her up & down or some shit. I've got a couple more girl that are hitting up back, and may do another couple of M&G this week soon. Anyhow, going to limit the details.

This is why I no longer post about babies that I am actively seeing and fucking.

A while ago, I had a baby that told me she got a strange message from a guy on SA saying he had read good reviews about her. She then asked me if I know anything about it, and if we (daddies) can review babies. I played dumb and pretended not to know anything, but guess what happened after that?

[TopGun9]

What can I say, I posted couple of detailed reports and a day later got promptly blocked by one of them, for no other reason. .

This is why I no longer post about babies that I am actively seeing and fucking.

A while ago, I had a baby that told me she got a strange message from a guy on SA saying he had read good reviews about her. She then asked me if I know anything about it, and if we (daddies) can review babies. I played dumb and pretended not to know anything, but guess what happened after that?

[DoggieFan]

Everything is relative. There was a dude on a throwaway account on Reddit last year asking if he should make this IG model, Sophie Mudd, his SB. He was asking for advice and whether anybody has had an SB like that. Not going to talk about the advice he was given, but he eventually did become her SD. I asked him how much allowance he was giving in DM, and he said 4 k PPM which moved to 20 k monthly allowance, with gifts and trips on the side. He was a multi-millionaire tech bro from San Fran. Said he was in his 40's and stayed in shape, so that high allowance is on top of being a relatively good looking dude and not a fat 60 yo.

I personally know an SB in NYC who models and sells high end real estate. I gave her $2 k PPM for a couple hours, and kept in touch with her. Flew her down here once as well, for more PPM. Her main SD is a billionaire real estate dude, has a mansion in the Hamptons that he usually lives at. When he wants to fuck her, he has his driver take her to the helipad and gets his chopper pilot to fly her over to suck and fuck and spend the night. Then they get breakfast in the morning and he flies her back so she can do her photo shoots and show the next $10 M penthouse. He gave her a monthly allowance of $25 k, and eventually just gave her his AMEX black card and she could charge whatever she wanted. She told me her highest so far was about $45 k in charges in one month. She told me she later found out he lied about being exclusive, she found he had at least 3 other SB's that she could dig up. They all had access to the black card, and all charged more than $20k a month to it..

All valid points. DC, Nova Babies that are in their 30's, out of shape & not attractive get $400 plus. It's why I Sugar from Fredericksburg south, including the rest of Virginia and all of North Carolina. My allowance is usually $300, as low as $200, no higher that $400, but only rarely $400. If I were to post pics of my top 10, over the last three years you'd be shocked. Including two 18 why o hammers, all the rest, 20-23 y o, one 31 y o that could pass for 21.

Bottom line, I'm not buying a mansion in Beverly Hills or Sugaring in DC. I did do a 22 y o Nova ebony princess, but when she was in college at a state school in Virginia.

$300, did her twice alone then brought her to my buddies lake house for some MFM fun. She stayed the night for $300 each. Unlimited pops, BB everything, no Greek. Unfortunately now that she moved back with mommy & daddy, she's out of the game & deleted her Seeking profile.

[FogHorn1]

She's a former porn chick with an OF. Has some positive reports in the Atlanta forum. Low ppm. She hits me up when she's available because we had a good conversation. I saw her but implant scars on pornhub and it turned me off. Search for Jordy Love.

I'll be damned, I was for sure she wasn't real. Thanks for the intel.

[Mandane]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-acd839e39dba

Great conversation via SA DM, sends me her number and I text. Never hear back from her. Next day she's changed locations. Makes no sense with some of these, why waste the time on 20-25 DMs only to ghost and change locations. Some kid in their parents basement maybe? Who knows, anyway. Waste of time.

She's a former porn chick with an OF. Has some positive reports in the Atlanta forum. Low ppm. She hits me up when she's available because we had a good conversation. I saw her but implant scars on pornhub and it turned me off. Search for Jordy Love.