NoVA SugarBabies

[TopGun9]

Everything is relative. .....Your actual competition for the 22 yo college cheerleader is that dude who owns the yacht, or the dude with the box seats at the Caps game, or the dude with the beachfront penthouse in Miami who flies girls down for the weekend. Don't be too surprised when they're plenty willing to shell out for M&G's.

I do agree everything is relative.

But I have to disagree here.

If I have a yacht, mansion, and millions in my bank account then I am not wasting time on SA trying to find young pussies. These guys are not my competitions on SA.

[FogHorn1]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-acd839e39dba

Great conversation via SA DM, sends me her number and I text. Never hear back from her. Next day she's changed locations. Makes no sense with some of these, why waste the time on 20-25 DMs only to ghost and change locations. Some kid in their parents basement maybe? Who knows, anyway. Waste of time.

[FogHorn1]

Everything is relative.... Don't be too surprised when they're plenty willing to shell out for M&G's.

I'm not paying for M&Gs either but this post is about the most logical I've read in a long time.

[DCKing]

Lived in the DC area almost my entire life. This post is so on point!

Everything is relative. There was a dude on a throwaway account on Reddit last year asking if he should make this IG model, Sophie Mudd, his SB. He was asking for advice and whether anybody has had an SB like that. Not going to talk about the advice he was given, but he eventually did become her SD. I asked him how much allowance he was giving in DM, and he said 4 k PPM which moved to 20 k monthly allowance, with gifts and trips on the side. He was a multi-millionaire tech bro from San Fran. Said he was in his 40's and stayed in shape, so that high allowance is on top of being a relatively good looking dude and not a fat 60 yo.

I personally know an SB in NYC who models and sells high end real estate. I gave her $2 k PPM for a couple hours, and kept in touch with her. Flew her down here once as well, for more PPM. Her main SD is a billionaire real estate dude, has a mansion in the Hamptons that he usually lives at. When he wants to fuck her, he has his driver take her to the helipad and gets his chopper pilot to fly her over to suck and fuck and spend the night. Then they get breakfast in the morning and he flies her back so she can do her photo shoots and show the next $10 M penthouse. He gave her a monthly allowance of $25 k, and eventually just gave her his AMEX black card and she could charge whatever she wanted. She told me her highest so far was about $45 k in charges in one month. She told me she later found out he lied about being exclusive, she found he had at least 3 other SB's that she could dig up. They all had access to the black card, and all charged more than $20k a month to it.

If these dudes get asked by a 20 yo for $200 for a dinner M&G, you think they give a fuck? Probably wipe their ass with a benji every morning. $200 for a hot chick accompanying them at dinner would be like if you went to Applebees and somehow got a smoking hot 23yo as a waitress. She takes your order, then whispers that if you give her a dollar, she'll sit with you for your whole meal and talk to you and flirt with you. How many of you are passing that up? It's just a fucking dollar. That's what $200 is to these dudes.

I'm not on their level, but if a legit 18-25 yo smokeshow shows up and responds to my messages, fuck yea I'm giving her $1000 PPM to hit. I'm paying $700 PPM right now for 2-3 hours with a Columbian who has a body like Shakira. Did I negotiate? Yes, and when she put her foot down and the choice was between fucking an ugly hoe like the last girl I posted about for $400, or fucking her for $700, I'm choosing Shakira all day.

You all need to realize where you live. DC and its suburbs are one of the richest spots in the entire country. Go to Georgetown on a Sunday in June. There's going to be yachts parked on the waterfront, and there's going to be hot young girls in tiny bikinis on those yachts. There's also going to be old dudes who own the yacht. You think those girls are all fucking and sucking him below deck every Sunday for the privilege of tanning on his yacht? Fuck no. I know some of those girls, they work as bottle girls in clubs like Living Room and Decades. They don't fuck anybody to get on that yacht, they get invited for free and drink free premium champagne and eat free catered sushi, all because they're under 30 and under 120 lbs.

This forum is mostly populated by blue collar dudes trolling STG and adultsearch so you all get a skewed picture of what the scene really is like. Your actual competition for the 22 yo college cheerleader is that dude who owns the yacht, or the dude with the box seats at the Caps game, or the dude with the beachfront penthouse in Miami who flies girls down for the weekend. Don't be too surprised when they're plenty willing to shell out for M&G's.

[DasHottCalla]

Dropping this one. Smoking hot. Pretty face, spinner body. Ask is $400 and can host, but beware it's basically a trap house. Kinda weird hookups: First time was BBFS cia, but wouldn't let me in the P. Second time got BBFS again but had to pull out and this time she wouldn't let me in the A. Is super nice and persistent about meeting, but in execution is a one shot and get dressed type girl. If she wasn't so ghetto I'd definitely keep on it. Also runs an OF, just look up iamcnova.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...0-79bc5f84d70b

Seen her quite a few times. 300 was the damage. All holes open BBFS. Was a good time but like op said super ghetto and smells like smoke. You can taste it when you kiss her. It's not weed, I'm not sure exactly what it is. She has a very slim body, tattoos all over as well as under her eye. I stopped seeing her after she, without my permission started smoking in my hotel bathroom. I kept it cool but I was steaming. How are you going to smoke in a non smoking room? Are you that much of a fiend that you can't wait till you leave? Next time I saw her was my last. She smoked in the Airbnb I rented and burned her he owners bathroom table and left ashes all over. I didn't see if check but got a surprise email message from the owner asking me to pay for the table.

[Mcsylv]

No, unfortunately I think a lot of Daddies feel it's worth it to try to reel in a killer 18-22 why o coed. On the Raleigh SB thread, I tried to make the case for boycotting paid M&Gs. A Daddy was paying $80 & claimed he had a 90% success rate with before mentioned hotties. I ran the numbers & he had 7 posts. Two talking about doing paid M&G with no luck. So that means, if you did the math that he hit pay dirt with another 18! Ya, right, I'm sure!

I had one guy agree but like 3 or 4 blow me up, like it's his money, you do you & I'll do me. Until the Admin stepped in & came to my defense. If the legit, hot 8-10's, can be making $ doing M&Gs, selling pics / videos, gas, baby sitting, cell phone, food &/ or meds for the kids, why go to the FC?

I've definitely bought a few meals to try to move the ball forward, but that benefits me, by not having someone come my hotel door that is 20 lbs heavier, butter face with out filters on her profile policy, or had posted her kindergarten pics and is really much older & not hot as advertised!

You paying for M&G, you're an IDIOT. But feel free to blow your money away.

Everything is relative. There was a dude on a throwaway account on Reddit last year asking if he should make this IG model, Sophie Mudd, his SB. He was asking for advice and whether anybody has had an SB like that. Not going to talk about the advice he was given, but he eventually did become her SD. I asked him how much allowance he was giving in DM, and he said 4 k PPM which moved to 20 k monthly allowance, with gifts and trips on the side. He was a multi-millionaire tech bro from San Fran. Said he was in his 40's and stayed in shape, so that high allowance is on top of being a relatively good looking dude and not a fat 60 yo.

I personally know an SB in NYC who models and sells high end real estate. I gave her $2 k PPM for a couple hours, and kept in touch with her. Flew her down here once as well, for more PPM. Her main SD is a billionaire real estate dude, has a mansion in the Hamptons that he usually lives at. When he wants to fuck her, he has his driver take her to the helipad and gets his chopper pilot to fly her over to suck and fuck and spend the night. Then they get breakfast in the morning and he flies her back so she can do her photo shoots and show the next $10 M penthouse. He gave her a monthly allowance of $25 k, and eventually just gave her his AMEX black card and she could charge whatever she wanted. She told me her highest so far was about $45 k in charges in one month. She told me she later found out he lied about being exclusive, she found he had at least 3 other SB's that she could dig up. They all had access to the black card, and all charged more than $20k a month to it.

If these dudes get asked by a 20 yo for $200 for a dinner M&G, you think they give a fuck? Probably wipe their ass with a benji every morning. $200 for a hot chick accompanying them at dinner would be like if you went to Applebees and somehow got a smoking hot 23yo as a waitress. She takes your order, then whispers that if you give her a dollar, she'll sit with you for your whole meal and talk to you and flirt with you. How many of you are passing that up? It's just a fucking dollar. That's what $200 is to these dudes.

I'm not on their level, but if a legit 18-25 yo smokeshow shows up and responds to my messages, fuck yea I'm giving her $1000 PPM to hit. I'm paying $700 PPM right now for 2-3 hours with a Columbian who has a body like Shakira. Did I negotiate? Yes, and when she put her foot down and the choice was between fucking an ugly hoe like the last girl I posted about for $400, or fucking her for $700, I'm choosing Shakira all day.

You all need to realize where you live. DC and its suburbs are one of the richest spots in the entire country. Go to Georgetown on a Sunday in June. There's going to be yachts parked on the waterfront, and there's going to be hot young girls in tiny bikinis on those yachts. There's also going to be old dudes who own the yacht. You think those girls are all fucking and sucking him below deck every Sunday for the privilege of tanning on his yacht? Fuck no. I know some of those girls, they work as bottle girls in clubs like Living Room and Decades. They don't fuck anybody to get on that yacht, they get invited for free and drink free premium champagne and eat free catered sushi, all because they're under 30 and under 120 lbs.

This forum is mostly populated by blue collar dudes trolling STG and adultsearch so you all get a skewed picture of what the scene really is like. Your actual competition for the 22 yo college cheerleader is that dude who owns the yacht, or the dude with the box seats at the Caps game, or the dude with the beachfront penthouse in Miami who flies girls down for the weekend. Don't be too surprised when they're plenty willing to shell out for M&G's.

[Grafenberg]

I had one guy agree but like 3 or 4 blow me up, like it's his money, you do you & I'll do me. Until the Admin stepped in & came to my defense. If the legit, hot 8-10's, can be making $ doing M&Gs, selling pics / videos, gas, baby sitting, cell phone, food &/ or meds for the kids, why go to the FC?

Yep, why sling their ass if they can get paid doing nothing? Most OF girls make "little" but it could be enough to not have to suck old smelly dicks.

https://www.insider.com/amouranth-re...-abuse-2022-10

[CruisingXX]

Babyboo sent me a verification photo holding up 3 fingers, so at least she's real. But yea she kept talking about needing a babysitter, and I told her I don't pay up front.

Thanks, great to know she is real, maybe she will eventually realize asking for money upfront does not work.

[TopGun9]

No, unfortunately I think a lot of Daddies feel it's worth it to try to reel in a killer 18-22 why o coed. On the Raleigh SB thread, I tried to make the case for boycotting paid M&Gs.

You paying for M&G, you're an IDIOT. But feel free to blow your money away.

[DoggieFan]

There must be some new Tick Tock video out telling these women they need to charge foe a meet and greet. I'm getting a lot of this lately. I just block them as soon as they ask.

No, unfortunately I think a lot of Daddies feel it's worth it to try to reel in a killer 18-22 why o coed. On the Raleigh SB thread, I tried to make the case for boycotting paid M&Gs. A Daddy was paying $80 & claimed he had a 90% success rate with before mentioned hotties. I ran the numbers & he had 7 posts. Two talking about doing paid M&G with no luck. So that means, if you did the math that he hit pay dirt with another 18! Ya, right, I'm sure!

I had one guy agree but like 3 or 4 blow me up, like it's his money, you do you & I'll do me. Until the Admin stepped in & came to my defense. If the legit, hot 8-10's, can be making $ doing M&Gs, selling pics / videos, gas, baby sitting, cell phone, food &/ or meds for the kids, why go to the FC?

I've definitely bought a few meals to try to move the ball forward, but that benefits me, by not having someone come my hotel door that is 20 lbs heavier, butter face with out filters on her profile policy, or had posted her kindergarten pics and is really much older & not hot as advertised!

[Mcsylv]

Met up with this one about two weeks ago. She is no longer in the area but does seem to travel often to DC for work. She has a corporate job that is HQed in Virginia and she is married.

We almost didn't link up. She told me she would be free after 3 pm and she would txt me. I didn't hear anything from her until around 6 pm. Luckily, I was in the area getting a drink. We kept messaging each other; she was still busy with co-workers. Finally around 8 she gave me her hotel and I met her at the lobby. We ran into her supervisor and he rode with us in the elevator. They talked shop and I just pretended to be a random person. That was weird.

Anyways she is fun and loud. A true switch.

Is there a link to her profile?

[TomFordModel]

Man, I really get reminded of the different tastes I have from most dudes on this forum when I go with their evaluations of girls' looks.


It's better than nothing. She'll be in close proximity to the man, and maybe he'll have his guard down. A stab in the right area would be better than just having pepper spray, which would hit her too since they're probably very close, or a taser that may not put down bigger dudes. Gun would probably still be bad due to being in close quarters and such.

Dude, from those pics despite the heavy filter I can tell she's a hood rat chick. I made the mistake in the past with others.

SA is a fucking cesspool of trailer trash, baby mama's etc. A majority if the girls on seems like street walkers that found the internet and they're getting a premium for their nastiness. When they should be blowing homeless dudes on the street for 20.

[Mazvid]

Met up with this one about two weeks ago. She is no longer in the area but does seem to travel often to DC for work. She has a corporate job that is HQed in Virginia and she is married.

We almost didn't link up. She told me she would be free after 3 pm and she would txt me. I didn't hear anything from her until around 6 pm. Luckily, I was in the area getting a drink. We kept messaging each other; she was still busy with co-workers. Finally around 8 she gave me her hotel and I met her at the lobby. We ran into her supervisor and he rode with us in the elevator. They talked shop and I just pretended to be a random person. That was weird.

Anyways she is fun and loud. A true switch.

[Mcsylv]

Dropping this one. Smoking hot. Pretty face, spinner body. Ask is $400 and can host, but beware it's basically a trap house. Kinda weird hookups: First time was BBFS cia, but wouldn't let me in the P. Second time got BBFS again but had to pull out and this time she wouldn't let me in the A. Is super nice and persistent about meeting, but in execution is a one shot and get dressed type girl. If she wasn't so ghetto I'd definitely keep on it. Also runs an OF, just look up iamcnova.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...0-79bc5f84d70b

Man, I really get reminded of the different tastes I have from most dudes on this forum when I go with their evaluations of girls' looks.

I hit this girl up a while back but she literally could not keep a date to save her life. Rescheduled 4 times before I told her to fuck off and dropped her. Then I see this about her being really hot IRL and I get itchy to hit her up again. I message her on SA under my same profile, she responds and I think she doesn't remember me. Gives me a different number from the one we used last time, and we set up a meet.

She tells me she's in DC, so I tell her to meet in Tysons. At around 6 PM, she says "Okay can I pull up to you in about an hour and I'm def available. " Long story short, there are numeros fishy delays and lying. Pretty sure she lives up in Maryland somewhere. She shows up at the hotel around 10 PM.

Girl is a thin, druggie, trashy mess. Her Bush is full on unshaven, her tits are a little saggy even though she's thin, her hair is black girl curly even though in her photos they're straight (I hate curly hair), and she has fucking face tats. A 7 at best, closer to a 6.

She's talking a million miles an hour and admits she used coke beforehand. Her idea of sex is going as fast as possible, no sensuality or changing up what she's doing. Her breath stinks of weed, even after she brushes her teeth. She takes random breaks in the middle and instead of cuddling or talking, she gets on her phone or goes to redo her makeup in the mirror. I was at one point, literally fucking her while she's texting on her phone. I think she may have been doing some shady shit like taking photos of us fucking too, but I didn't solidly catch her in the act. Only good things were that BB was available, and BB anal if she was in the mood and prepared, and that the drugs made her super sensitive so she came easily.

She put on makeup before leaving at 11:30 PM at night, so she was probably going to see another dude or something. I asked her where she was going, she said back to her friend's airbnb, I asked why she would need makeup for that and she stammered an unclear response. We were supposed to do 3 hours for $500, but around 90 min in she's putting her clothes back on. I was tried from a long day, so I didn't force her to stay, just told her next time it's gonna be longer.

Only way I'd ever see her again is to make her come to a hotel right where I live, not leave my house until she's at the door, and also negotiate for 300-400 cause that fucking ***** won't shut the fuck up. I'm normally fine spending 500 for a couple hours since escorts charge way more and don't do BB, but she's another one of those girls that annoy me so much that I don't want to be around them unless my dick is in them.

Ah that makes more sense, and is fairly common. She looks like a hood rat too.

Always amazes me when these girls think a knife is a good idea. 9/10 times a girl that maybe weighs 115 lbs is going to be on the losing end of a knife fight, even if she produces it first.

It's better than nothing. She'll be in close proximity to the man, and maybe he'll have his guard down. A stab in the right area would be better than just having pepper spray, which would hit her too since they're probably very close, or a taser that may not put down bigger dudes. Gun would probably still be bad due to being in close quarters and such.

[DWinthrop]

Alright, alright. I hear you. I've received some private messages about this as well. Here is some more context:

As long as you are respectful and understand consent youll be fine.

What happened was this: we were in the heat of the moment and my hands were running up her thigh when I stumbled upon a knife strapped to her that would make Mike Dundee proud. I looked at her slightly terrified and she just said you can never me to careful in a disarming way that worked. We continued on. And I know we had a few laughs about that afterwards. But I am pretty sure that knife always traveled with her.

She was always very chill and drama free. I believe she doesn't drink or smoke or anything.

Ah that makes more sense, and is fairly common. She looks like a hood rat too.

Always amazes me when these girls think a knife is a good idea. 9/10 times a girl that maybe weighs 115 lbs is going to be on the losing end of a knife fight, even if she produces it first.