Massage Parlor Reports

[Rabbit123]

The typical MO for AMP raids is the police setup a new AMP, one they control, and videotape men requesting sex before they arrest them. PHX PD did this not too long ago. This way they have evidence that solicitation of prostitution occurred, cause otherwise there is no case. In Flagstaff, they did a sting where the cop got a HJ as part of the sting, and I think they've dropped all charges because that's not allowed. In the Robert Kraft case, the place was rigged with cameras.

You're describing a sting aimed at customers, not a raid aimed at the AMP. It takes a fair amount of time / manpower for LE to obtain enough evidence to get a warrant to search an AMP. Yet it happens several times a year in metro Phoenix. LE used to be very public when they busted a place (for example, google Amazing Spa in Tempe and there are still on-line news stories from 5-6 years ago). Lately, they don't seem to publicize it--when M10 and Golden got closed down a couple of years ago, the news was silent and people figured it out from word of mouth. The cases then play out in court over the course of a couple of years, typically ending in a plea, probation, and maybe a forfeiture of some assets. And, somehow someone new almost always reopens the place that was busted in a month or two. A year ago, Mesa passed a law imposing some liability on landlords, who ought to have a pretty good idea what's going on after a place has been busted, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference.

[WalterM]

Okay so I'm new to this whole idea, tried it out once at a local AMP and I want to go to a different one again pretty soon I'm just nervous about the whole raids thing. The last one I went to had a cam view of the rest of the rooms and the hallway and as you can bet me being a newbie I probably didn't handle the money situation as best I could and we discussed the prices. Should I be worried about this coming back to bite me? And if not how do I avoid this feeling of anxiety because I actually enjoyed my time and like I said want to do it more often but I am kinda freaking out about if I could get in trouble for this.

The typical MO for AMP raids is the police setup a new AMP, one they control, and videotape men requesting sex before they arrest them. PHX PD did this not too long ago. This way they have evidence that solicitation of prostitution occurred, cause otherwise there is no case. In Flagstaff, they did a sting where the cop got a HJ as part of the sting, and I think they've dropped all charges because that's not allowed. In the Robert Kraft case, the place was rigged with cameras.

Otherwise, you are there for a massage, you have nothing more to say. It's really hard to get a conviction for 2 adults, who are not coerced or under duress, having sex behind closed doors on private property. They can accuse you of soliciting prostitution but the fact of the matter is, they can't prove it, they weren't there. Unless there is human trafficking occurring, and there is not. These women are their of their own volition. It beats working in a Chinese restaurant, the cops aren't that interested unless someone is constantly calling to complain. In most of these strip malls, there are bigger problems at the liquor store or the drug deal going down in the parking lot. Both cases that are far easier to prosecute and if you haven't noticed, the police are woefully understaffed in most of the Phoenix departments. Guy getting a handjob or a guy with a gun, which one needs urgent attention?

I wouldn't worry about it, financial terms are often arranged silently with hand gestures, and I think that with a little practice, you'll become more comfortable.

[Rabbit123]

Also have any of you experienced guys had trouble with an AMP like been prosecuted or convicted from this hobby before? Again I'm a newbie lookin to really get into this but am quite nervous.

I agree entirely with the other comments. That said, if you're worried about it, visit on weekends. Police are like most of us--sure, there's a presence 24/7, but massage parlor busts tend to occur Monday through Friday during the day. And, before a bust, officers sometimes talk to customers (often a few blocks away at a traffic stop). If you are ever approached, remember that you have a right to keep your mouth shut.

[BrewstersRoost]

I'm new to the forum and the hobby. Is there a way to get the locations of these places? I definitely want to try Tops.

RubMaps has a listing of them complete with addresses.

[Desert Rat]

Okay so I'm new to this whole idea, tried it out once at a local AMP and I want to go to a different one again pretty soon I'm just nervous about the whole raids thing. The last one I went to had a cam view of the rest of the rooms and the hallway and as you can bet me being a newbie I probably didn't handle the money situation as best I could and we discussed the prices. Should I be worried about this coming back to bite me? And if not how do I avoid this feeling of anxiety because I actually enjoyed my time and like I said want to do it more often but I am kinda freaking out about if I could get in trouble for this.

I was at the Great Spa once when a police officer arrived and asked to see the facility. Mama-san let him in, he toured the parlor, and left. My girl giggled and had to throw a towel over my bare ass while he was present. Within a minute of his exit I was receiving a BBBJ. As long as everybody smiles, waves, and keeps their mouth shut there is nothing to worry about.

[Deutsche205]

Whats New Day like?

Girls hot?

What can I expect?

Or, where do you recommend.

I have been there a handful of times, when I am visiting the PHX area. Have met 2 very well toned ladies that on looks alone would bring you back. Others were a bit older, so-so looks, but everyone gave a solid performance.

Can be busy and understaffed at key times. Last time was there, pretty woman working alone, with 3 customers, so she rushed the service.

[AssHat]

Is there any AMP that provides sensual massage, what I mean is that the focus is on that, I have had great seasons of sensual massage top, great, nirvana, but they usually don't last that long, I've been twice to H&W in Chandler, but there was very little caressing, teasing.

Is there an actual AMP in which I can get at least 45 minutes of sensual massage? I don't care if they don't offer FS, BJ of HJ.

I'm always and ever on the lookout for this. Unfortunately it's hard to find outside of Asia.

[Denton]

Okay so I'm new to this whole idea, tried it out once at a local AMP and I want to go to a different one again pretty soon I'm just nervous about the whole raids thing. The last one I went to had a cam view of the rest of the rooms and the hallway and as you can bet me being a newbie I probably didn't handle the money situation as best I could and we discussed the prices. Should I be worried about this coming back to bite me? And if not how do I avoid this feeling of anxiety because I actually enjoyed my time and like I said want to do it more often but I am kinda freaking out about if I could get in trouble for this.

You should be more worried about dying in a fatal car accident on your way to the AMP than getting raided at one because the odds of that happening are a lot higher. AMP's almost never get raided and your odds of being at one precisely when it gets raided are astronomically low. The police just do a raid every once in a while to keep you irrationally afraid. They don't have the resources or political will to do raids often enough to really make things really risky. Yes, it's possible to get in trouble. But all kinds of low probability things are possible. Just be smart about things and don't get paranoid.

[Eze777]

Is there anybody out there that could recommend an independent provider that provides full body waxing? HE would be great but not necessary.

[JohnnyBuddha]

Anybody know the lineup this month for Nirvana in Sun City? Love this place and planning to go again soon.

Monica and Moco, last time I was there.

[Querendon]

Is there any AMP that provides sensual massage, what I mean is that the focus is on that, I have had great seasons of sensual massage top, great, nirvana, but they usually don't last that long, I've been twice to H&W in Chandler, but there was very little caressing, teasing.

Is there an actual AMP in which I can get at least 45 minutes of sensual massage? I don't care if they don't offer FS, BJ of HJ.

[Ttballs]

Whats New Day like?

Girls hot?

What can I expect?

Or, where do you recommend.

Have not tried this place yet. Its advertising looks interesting, please post your report!

[BoredAzzFuk]

Hi guys,

I'm reading some impressive reports about Top and Aloha but not seeing many $ figures mentioned. Can someone give me a little advance warning?

Also is there anything in Maricopa City? I'm staying there for a bit.

I'm new to the forum and the hobby. Is there a way to get the locations of these places? I definitely want to try Tops.

[WhoMe111]

I saw her late last month, but I haven't been in the area this month.

She is Mama at Great. I tried to talk he into service but she just said she is too old.

[KinkyRealtor]

Anybody know the lineup this month for Nirvana in Sun City? Love this place and planning to go again soon.