NoVA SugarBabies

[Zerry]

It's confirmed I'm fat and ugly LOL.

I need to start a business for taking dating profile pictures.

Anyway, maybe take 6 months off the bowl, and invest your play money differently. Get your teeth whitened, lose xx pounds, hire a personal shopper / stylist, or. Figure out how to make more play money.

A good many women do not care about a person's looks, but they still care about a person's presentation. Skinny slobs have it better than fat slobs sure, but the appearance of wealth and style is king.

Out in the wild girls are fucking actually rich dudes for free, including fat ugly ones, for the same reason people buy lotto tickets.

Control what you can (maybe / maybe not your weight) and distract them from what you can't. Apparently you're saying that giving them 300 isn't distracting enough.

[Arty33]

I understand Cat is doing them for variety, but I won't pay to fuck these girls here, the thick one and the tattooed one, and then the 30 year olds. May be couple hundred, but they'd then rather find a guy who'd pay big bucks because he thinks he has to. But if you hold your ground may be you can find those who'd take lower.

Is she older than 29? Because I wouldn't consider that an older lady LOL. I hit her up twice, no response.

It's confirmed I'm fat and ugly LOL. I talked to this girl too. Firstly, I offered 300 for dinner dates, and she countered with 600 and wouldn't budge. Next, I told her 600 is fine if we're meeting for a a whole evening, 5 - 6 hours, and it's bare. She denies the bare and says she has to leave by 11 PM. I ask what she's concerned about, I can show her clean tests from less than 2 weeks ago, and I can show her tests that I'm sterile. She stills says no to bare. I tell her "okay, best of luck" and she says "you too" and that's the end of it LOL.

Msged her twice and no response to me.

So far it's still been slim pickings for me. Only 4 girls in the rotation, and not a single one that checks all the boxes. Either they won't do bare, or they suck in bed, or they're annoying as hell, or they cost too much. Sometimes multiple of those at once. At this point, I'd settle for a 9/10 who fucks well BB and isn't retarded to talk to, even if she asked for high allowance..

[Shier]

Is she older than 29? Because I wouldn't consider that an older lady LOL. I hit her up twice, no response.

It's confirmed I'm fat and ugly LOL. I talked to this girl too. Firstly, I offered 300 for dinner dates, and she countered with 600 and wouldn't budge. Next, I told her 600 is fine if we're meeting for a a whole evening, 5 - 6 hours, and it's bare. She denies the bare and says she has to leave by 11 PM. I ask what she's concerned about, I can show her clean tests from less than 2 weeks ago, and I can show her tests that I'm sterile. She stills says no to bare. I tell her "okay, best of luck" and she says "you too" and that's the end of it LOL.

Msged her twice and no response to me.

So far it's still been slim pickings for me. Only 4 girls in the rotation, and not a single one that checks all the boxes. Either they won't do bare, or they suck in bed, or they're annoying as hell, or they cost too much. Sometimes multiple of those at once. At this point, I'd settle for a 9/10 who fucks well BB and isn't retarded to talk to, even if she asked for high allowance.

Confirmed I'm fat and ugly again lollllll. Started with 1 k, wouldn't come down. Sure, she was coming from north of baltimore to VA to see me, but still. Meetings were short as hell, less than 2 hours, and she was kind of annoying to talk to. She did let me go bare, and I think I may have creampied her once or twice since I showed her I'm sterile. Ended up cutting her off, not worth the high cost / hour.

I doubt it's your weight or looks. I'd wager the percentage of "good looking" guys in the SB game is about average. Most are married middle-aged men; just peruse a Home Depot sometime, and that's who we are. More likely you just need some game. Don't take offense; this is coming from someone who chronically had a weak-ish game, but over the years I've been learning. One needs a healthy dose of DGAF, a good sense of humor, and perspective about who is in control. (It's us).

Here are some other things I've noticed really contribute to success in this game.

Funds. Obviously this should go without saying, and most in this game have the disposable cash to participate, maybe some more than others. It's still possible to find that SB that will take 300, but it doesn't hurt to be able to swing that thing when needed. That also ties into "game" or some might call it "BDE". Having that 800 attitude probably can get you more of those awesome experiences at 400. Just sayin. And when *they know* that *you know* that you can find 5, 10,20 more just like them within a few days it keeps the ball squarely in our court.

Time and Mobility, both related. I don't know how some of you do it, and I'm jealous. The ability to have a larger area of operations certainly opens the game WAY up.

Flexible schedule. Sort of like time, but this is the ability to strike when the iron is hot. And not talking about those, "Hey baby want to meet tonight in a hotel?" come-ons from scammers and motel rats. These girls no matter how legit, lose interest quickly and having to schedule and re-schedule a week or two out gets one labeled in their minds as a "time waster" even if it's not deserved. In the meantime, someone who is able to meet the next day will swoop in and snap up a quality SB. Being able to chat for a day or two, then get to a M&G 2 hours away is major.

[ProCatHunter]

Timing also plays a key role. It's been discussed on this an lots of other sugar forums, but end of month when rent and bills come due, and before that biweekly or weekly paycheck hits will make a lot of these ladies do what they wouldn't otherwise consider something they might not otherwise.

Then once they sleep with you, you don't count against their number (though lots of these girls don't care about that) and have proven you're not a psycho murderer (plus points if you're fun in bed and make them cum), allowances come down and they are a lot more willing to work with you. This of course doesn't apply to the Merc types who used to dance or who are pros.

This is why I've always liked the sugar bowl, since things just get easier over time. The two that I've had in rotation for a few years are basically fuck buddies. They contact me when they're bored or need help, I do the same.

Anyway, and everyone with any experience in the bowl knows it's a YMMV game. I'm sure there are plenty of profiles you've messaged that wouldn't pay me the time of day. Perfect example is the girl who wouldn't do bb with me, but was happy to go bb with you. Maybe I caught her when she needed funds, but she made it clear to me that bb wasn't a menu option for me.

I've also found that interactions can be completely random. I've messaged some of these ladies in the past under different profiles and have been left of read. Oddly enough, under a new profile with the same pics and profile information, I'm the best thing since sliced bread? Often times, there is no ryhme or reason.

One thing is for sure though, after losing some weight, it has made a significant difference in terms of allowance rates and responses.

Is she older than 29? Because I wouldn't consider that an older lady LOL. I hit her up twice, no response.

It's confirmed I'm fat and ugly LOL. I talked to this girl too. Firstly, I offered 300 for dinner dates, and she countered with 600 and wouldn't budge. Next, I told her 600 is fine if we're meeting for a a whole evening, 5 - 6 hours, and it's bare. She denies the bare and says she has to leave by 11 PM. I ask what she's concerned about, I can show her clean tests from less than 2 weeks ago, and I can show her tests that I'm sterile. She stills says no to bare. I tell her "okay, best of luck" and she says "you too" and that's the end of it LOL.

Msged her twice and no response to me.

So far it's still been slim pickings for me. Only 4 girls in the rotation, and not a single one that checks all the boxes. Either they won't do bare, or they suck in bed, or they're annoying as hell, or they cost too much. Sometimes multiple of those at once. At this point, I'd settle for a 9/10 who fucks well BB and isn't retarded to talk to, even if she asked for high allowance.

Confirmed I'm fat and ugly again lollllll. Started with 1 k, wouldn't come down. Sure, she was coming from north of baltimore to VA to see me, but still. Meetings were short as hell, less than 2 hours, and she was kind of annoying to talk to. She did let me go bare, and I think I may have creampied her once or twice since I showed her I'm sterile. Ended up cutting her off, not worth the high cost / hour.

[Mcsylv]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...9-bbc8b0911e6e

Robyn is real. Fun lady. She's been in the sugar game for a while now and has played on both coasts. Pics are accurate. Slim body type so if you're looking for tits and ass, she is not for you. In our initial message exchange she said $500 minimum. I told her that it was a high ask but not out of the question depending on our chemistry. During our m&g we hung out in Baltimore for drinks, which turned into dinner, which turned into more drinks, which ended in an Fc trip. Damage was a bar tab and dinner for the night. All access, all holes, uncovered.

Didn't plan to repeat because my dance card is full, but thought it was a fun night with an attractive lady (solid 7 in person and like I said, pics are accurate, but without the freshness of youth). She messaged me a few more times and her ppm ask came down to $300. The freebie Fc session was good, so I took it for a spin a few more times, but she started getting clingy. That is a definite no go for me. Maybe one of you single mongers will take her off the board?

Is she older than 29? Because I wouldn't consider that an older lady LOL. I hit her up twice, no response.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-5c2c722f1880

Pics and profile are accurate. Private pics are more accurate of what you're going to get irl. Tho the main profile pic of her eating should've been a dead giveaway. She's real and dtf. Went to the Fc after the m&g. Uncovered but no anal. Fun lady, with a $400 ppm allowance request. Too far for me to see if a regular basis so she is a one and done. Besides there are plenty of other ladies out there with lower asks.

It's confirmed I'm fat and ugly LOL. I talked to this girl too. Firstly, I offered 300 for dinner dates, and she countered with 600 and wouldn't budge. Next, I told her 600 is fine if we're meeting for a a whole evening, 5 - 6 hours, and it's bare. She denies the bare and says she has to leave by 11 PM. I ask what she's concerned about, I can show her clean tests from less than 2 weeks ago, and I can show her tests that I'm sterile. She stills says no to bare. I tell her "okay, best of luck" and she says "you too" and that's the end of it LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...c-7ce67e61b68b

For someone claiming to be a lesbian, this one loves the D and has no interest in having her carpet munched. It was odd, but guess that's why she is on seeking? All covered, no anal, but low ask for an allowance off the bat at $300. Met for tea and then it was off to the races.

Don't plan to repeat because it felt more like a backpage experience, except she is a true sub who loves being pounded hard. Got the impression that I was just one of many in a large rotation.

Msged her twice and no response to me.

It's been a wild month gents, and I'm happy to report that unicorns do exist. Had more than my fair share of m&gs, weeding through scammers and gold diggers, but the bowl is alive and well. Not the heyday, or the golden age of sugar like in the years past, but added 3 college co-Ed's to my rotation and each is a unicorn in her own right.

The first I already reported on. Solid 7 and super sweet. Has a true daddy fetish, refuses any meaningful allowance and when we go out, she will only order house salads and a drink or two. Yes, our sessions continue to take place back in her college dorm. Yes, it's awkward when I am walking down the hallway and bump into other students while I'm with her. Thankfully she's a senior with a single room to herself. It feels like I'm back in college when I'm with her, on her bed, discussing philosophy, etc.

Second that got added to rotation is a sophomore at a local university. Blonde spinner type. First in her family to go to college so she's super motivated to succeed. Looking for a mentor type daddy and eager to please. Allowance ask is low with the understanding that I be semi reliable. Completely new to the game but was willing to grant access to all holes, which were all super tight. For now she says she wants a cover since she wasn't on birth control, but let's me unload bb in her ass and mouth. Once she gets access through the student health center, she promises that we are off to the races. Another one with a ddlg fetish. This one is out of state, but close enough to visit at least 3 to 4 times a month pretty easily.

Third in rotation is a freshman blonde spinner. Also new to the bowl and very inexperienced sexually. Thankfully she is eager to learn and please. When I try to have a conversation about what I want her to do, or what I plan to do to her, she buries her face into me. Like number 2, is not on the pill so need covers. Isn't comfortable with anal (yet) but with any luck, I'll be stretching out that ass in a few months. Allowance is currently $500 ppm, and if she goes on Bc and let's me take her anal virginity, then she will be worth it. Thankfully though, like number 2, she is out of state, because otherwise, I'd see her way too often and would be broke.

Haven't seen my older baby who is interested in a threesome in about six weeks but have been exchanging messages weekly. Schedules haven't been coinciding, which is mostly my fault because I've been too active on seeking. According to her she got sick of the gold diggers on SA and so switched to fetlife and a few other non traditional dating sites to find our third. Some of the profiles she has been sending me are promising. Though I'm waiting for that awkward moment when she sends me a profile of someone I've already m&ged or banged.

Athlete baby has been busy with school and sports. Haven't seen her in a few weeks either, but with school starting and team practices, I'm sure her schedule is crazy. I'm not complaining though since I wouldn't have had time to see her anyway. I suspect she might get dropped from current rotation soon. Sorry gents. Can't share her profile since she deleted her seeking profile, nor would I want to in case I want to add her back.

Two other long timers in rotation are going strong. See then each about 1 nce every six weeks. They both seem happy, don't ask for higher allowance amounts, or get clingy. The bowl has been good to me in 2022 so far.

And BTW. If we get an earnings recession in Q4 of this year, I'm expecting the bowl to be flooded with pussy. Happy hunting gents.

So far it's still been slim pickings for me. Only 4 girls in the rotation, and not a single one that checks all the boxes. Either they won't do bare, or they suck in bed, or they're annoying as hell, or they cost too much. Sometimes multiple of those at once. At this point, I'd settle for a 9/10 who fucks well BB and isn't retarded to talk to, even if she asked for high allowance.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-4544e94368af

Starts at $1 k p / date. Can be negotiated to $500. Cannot host, not on bc so requires covers. BBBJ technique is good, covered FS, no back door with me. Definitely overpaid on this one, but pulled the trigger in a moment of weakness.

Confirmed I'm fat and ugly again lollllll. Started with 1 k, wouldn't come down. Sure, she was coming from north of baltimore to VA to see me, but still. Meetings were short as hell, less than 2 hours, and she was kind of annoying to talk to. She did let me go bare, and I think I may have creampied her once or twice since I showed her I'm sterile. Ended up cutting her off, not worth the high cost / hour.

[Arty33]

Thanks for the updates, sounds like a nice roaster. I am wondering how you're keeping all of them busy and still not blowing up your bank account. I've got an issue of plenty myself, with 3 college co-eds, a freshman, a junior, a senior, and another 23 year old just added, and I am having trouble keeping a budget and maintaining all of them. I'm going to have to stop seeing the longest running one for while to keep from going above, which honestly I've been these past months. With you meeting each one of them 3 to 4 times a month, and even at 500, that's a lot of dough. Of course it's all personal I understand, and I do make good money myself, but started thinking what's the end game here instead of blowing a lot of dough on SB pleasures. Curious to hear how you guys think.

It's been a wild month gents, and I'm happy to report that unicorns do exist. Had more than my fair share of m&gs, weeding through scammers and gold diggers, but the bowl is alive and well. Not the heyday, or the golden age of sugar like in the years past, but added 3 college co-Ed's to my rotation and each is a unicorn in her own right.

The first I already reported on. Solid 7 and super sweet. Has a true daddy fetish, refuses any meaningful allowance and when we go out, she will only order house salads and a drink or two. Yes, our sessions continue to take place back in her college dorm. Yes, it's awkward when I am walking down the hallway and bump into other students while I'm with her. Thankfully she's a senior with a single room to herself. It feels like I'm back in college when I'm with her, on her bed, discussing philosophy, etc.

Second that got added to rotation is a sophomore at a local university. Blonde spinner type. First in her family to go to college so she's super motivated to succeed. Looking for a mentor type daddy and eager to please. Allowance ask is low with the understanding that I be semi reliable. Completely new to the game but was willing to grant access to all holes, which were all super tight. For now she says she wants a cover since she wasn't on birth control, but let's me unload bb in her ass and mouth. Once she gets access through the student health center, she promises that we are off to the races. Another one with a ddlg fetish. This one is out of state, but close enough to visit at least 3 to 4 times a month pretty easily.

Third in rotation is a freshman blonde spinner. Also new to the bowl and very inexperienced sexually. Thankfully she is eager to learn and please. When I try to have a conversation about what I want her to do, or what I plan to do to her, she buries her face into me. Like number 2, is not on the pill so need covers. Isn't comfortable with anal (yet) but with any luck, I'll be stretching out that ass in a few months. Allowance is currently $500 ppm, and if she goes on Bc and let's me take her anal virginity, then she will be worth it. Thankfully though, like number 2, she is out of state, because otherwise, I'd see her way too often and would be broke..

[Dimples572]

Anyone have any info on this one? Been texting for a bit, I'm 95% sure she's fake but not positive.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...f-3d8f35c4239d

[JackInGsid]

Nice! Can you please share the expected ppm for her? I've tried PM'ing you and got a inbox full notification. .

She is a lot of fun. Go for it. I was seeing her for about 6 months and then I got distracted with others. Nice toned body when I was seeing her and she is kink friendly.

I saw her for free a few times. She is also on fetlife.

[Mdterp05]

Met with her too a couple of months ago. She had an older profile that had pics of her face etc. In that one, and quick to text more over. Saw this new profile without the face and messaged. Started chatting and she didn't realize she just met me a month before. I even made a joke about a new profile and something we previously talked about and she didn't catch on I was someone she already knew and trying to negotiate still so I took that as a high mileage sign and won't repeat.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...d-3e572f510371

Private pic doesn't show a face. Will text you a face picture that is from about 5 years ago. Nice lady but heavier and older than in the pictures. Probably a 5, might be a 6 in some books and 4 in others. She's able to meet in the Towson / timonium area and cannot host unless you're willing to drive out of state. Ask was 350, but was willing to play for $200. YMMV. BBBJ, covered FS, no back door. Hit it anyway for the change of pace. Would probably be a good match for an older monger who is looking for value. She is a nice lady, so please be kind to her.

[ProCatHunter]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-4544e94368af

Starts at $1 k p / date. Can be negotiated to $500. Cannot host, not on bc so requires covers. BBBJ technique is good, covered FS, no back door with me. Definitely overpaid on this one, but pulled the trigger in a moment of weakness.

[ProCatHunter]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...d-3e572f510371

Private pic doesn't show a face. Will text you a face picture that is from about 5 years ago. Nice lady but heavier and older than in the pictures. Probably a 5, might be a 6 in some books and 4 in others. She's able to meet in the Towson / timonium area and cannot host unless you're willing to drive out of state. Ask was 350, but was willing to play for $200. YMMV. BBBJ, covered FS, no back door. Hit it anyway for the change of pace. Would probably be a good match for an older monger who is looking for value. She is a nice lady, so please be kind to her.

[ProCatHunter]

It's been a wild month gents, and I'm happy to report that unicorns do exist. Had more than my fair share of m&gs, weeding through scammers and gold diggers, but the bowl is alive and well. Not the heyday, or the golden age of sugar like in the years past, but added 3 college co-Ed's to my rotation and each is a unicorn in her own right.

The first I already reported on. Solid 7 and super sweet. Has a true daddy fetish, refuses any meaningful allowance and when we go out, she will only order house salads and a drink or two. Yes, our sessions continue to take place back in her college dorm. Yes, it's awkward when I am walking down the hallway and bump into other students while I'm with her. Thankfully she's a senior with a single room to herself. It feels like I'm back in college when I'm with her, on her bed, discussing philosophy, etc.

Second that got added to rotation is a sophomore at a local university. Blonde spinner type. First in her family to go to college so she's super motivated to succeed. Looking for a mentor type daddy and eager to please. Allowance ask is low with the understanding that I be semi reliable. Completely new to the game but was willing to grant access to all holes, which were all super tight. For now she says she wants a cover since she wasn't on birth control, but let's me unload bb in her ass and mouth. Once she gets access through the student health center, she promises that we are off to the races. Another one with a ddlg fetish. This one is out of state, but close enough to visit at least 3 to 4 times a month pretty easily.

Third in rotation is a freshman blonde spinner. Also new to the bowl and very inexperienced sexually. Thankfully she is eager to learn and please. When I try to have a conversation about what I want her to do, or what I plan to do to her, she buries her face into me. Like number 2, is not on the pill so need covers. Isn't comfortable with anal (yet) but with any luck, I'll be stretching out that ass in a few months. Allowance is currently $500 ppm, and if she goes on Bc and let's me take her anal virginity, then she will be worth it. Thankfully though, like number 2, she is out of state, because otherwise, I'd see her way too often and would be broke.

Haven't seen my older baby who is interested in a threesome in about six weeks but have been exchanging messages weekly. Schedules haven't been coinciding, which is mostly my fault because I've been too active on seeking. According to her she got sick of the gold diggers on SA and so switched to fetlife and a few other non traditional dating sites to find our third. Some of the profiles she has been sending me are promising. Though I'm waiting for that awkward moment when she sends me a profile of someone I've already m&ged or banged.

Athlete baby has been busy with school and sports. Haven't seen her in a few weeks either, but with school starting and team practices, I'm sure her schedule is crazy. I'm not complaining though since I wouldn't have had time to see her anyway. I suspect she might get dropped from current rotation soon. Sorry gents. Can't share her profile since she deleted her seeking profile, nor would I want to in case I want to add her back.

Two other long timers in rotation are going strong. See then each about 1 nce every six weeks. They both seem happy, don't ask for higher allowance amounts, or get clingy. The bowl has been good to me in 2022 so far.

And BTW. If we get an earnings recession in Q4 of this year, I'm expecting the bowl to be flooded with pussy. Happy hunting gents.

[ProCatHunter]

Don't have the link because I had to block her. Yes, that's three P’s in the apple.

Batshit crazy. Never met in person, and thankfully I didn't waste too much time messaging her, though why I continued after the initial contact just proves I’m a glutton for punishment. If you come across her profile, you'll probably want to do the same.

[ProCatHunter]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...c-7ce67e61b68b

For someone claiming to be a lesbian, this one loves the D and has no interest in having her carpet munched. It was odd, but guess that's why she is on seeking? All covered, no anal, but low ask for an allowance off the bat at $300. Met for tea and then it was off to the races.

Don't plan to repeat because it felt more like a backpage experience, except she is a true sub who loves being pounded hard. Got the impression that I was just one of many in a large rotation.

[ProCatHunter]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-5c2c722f1880

Pics and profile are accurate. Private pics are more accurate of what you're going to get irl. Tho the main profile pic of her eating should've been a dead giveaway. She's real and dtf. Went to the Fc after the m&g. Uncovered but no anal. Fun lady, with a $400 ppm allowance request. Too far for me to see if a regular basis so she is a one and done. Besides there are plenty of other ladies out there with lower asks.