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  1. #10539

    Exactly what you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by DCGrind  [View Original Post]
    The cost is what it is. I'm certainly not going to negotiate with a massage lady, KGirl or escort to try to save 20 or 50 from a lady who I'm going to fuck. Makes no sense to me.

    Burlington was the first AMP I've gone to in probably 10 years. It was nice, and better than the AMP experiences from 10 years ago, but nowhere near as good as a KAgency in my opinion. For an extra 80 (cfs) or 180 (BBFS) I can get a full hour, 2 showers, a private apartment, and a much more GFE / pse experience. It's a no brainer for me. The AMP is more of a hit and run last minute thing for a quickie when I don't have the led time to schedule with an agency.
    How many weeks or months will the discussion go on about $$ or $$. 2 for a 30 minute at the mercy of the AMP provider session.

  2. #10538

    Victoria Spa

    Somehow got away with 200 cfs at Victoria spa. Went at like 4 am. It was pretty busy, lots of taxis pulling up and out. Line up of 4 girls. Chose one she tried to negotiate 3 but I only had 2. She lowered the price by 20's but I held firm. I was going to walk out but she blocked me and had another girl try make me stay. She let me choose another girl, agreed to 2. I hand her the bills, I get naked and then she starts asking for 80 again. I held firm saying I thought we agreed and that I wanted my money back. So she says fine and we get to it. Quick massage, quick decent CBJ, straight to pounding. Pretty mechanical, being 4 am and after negotiations but it did the trick. Her name was Gigi I think, tall slender, natural b's, probably mid 30's, nice face, last day today apparently. After finishing she tries to ask for 40 again, looks thru my wallet. I'm just amused at this point, just joking with her, keeping it lighthearted.

  3. #10537
    Quote Originally Posted by DCGrind  [View Original Post]
    The cost is what it is. I'm certainly not going to negotiate with a massage lady, KGirl or escort to try to save 20 or 50 from a lady who I'm going to fuck. Makes no sense to me.

    Burlington was the first AMP I've gone to in probably 10 years. It was nice, and better than the AMP experiences from 10 years ago, but nowhere near as good as a KAgency in my opinion. For an extra 80 (cfs) or 180 (BBFS) I can get a full hour, 2 showers, a private apartment, and a much more GFE / pse experience. It's a no brainer for me. The AMP is more of a hit and run last minute thing for a quickie when I don't have the led time to schedule with an agency.
    You stated you get a full hour with a K agency so you paid 220 for a 30 minute session at the AMP?

    I agree K agency experience is better but the personal info required and other hoops you have to jump through are unacceptable to some of us.

    If the AMPs have a posted all in rate like K agencies or escorts I will not negotiate. But, if they don't have a posted rate I negotiate.

  4. #10536
    Vegas is known as the 9th island of Hawaii, not the 5th island.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qeast  [View Original Post]
    A TS, body slide and 50/50 runs about $210 in HNL now. I mention this because LV is sometimes jokingly referred to as the "5th island".

    MPs don't require screening, setting appointments, or jumping through any other hoops.

    My point is that the MPs know what prices are in different markets (the RAs travel and talk), and they know what their place in the local eco-system is.

  5. #10535
    This place is 200 with the table shower. At least, that's what I got. I walked in, Lulu recognized me, I gave her 200, asked for Bella, then Bella came into the room, and took me to the shower room. No negotiating, no mention of the 20 difference. She said if I wanted Greek, it's 100 extra, but I politely declined.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceCreamLicker  [View Original Post]
    First off. If I may apologize, this may have been my flabby ass. LOL. Second of all, I am laughing at the cheapness of my fellow mongers. Let's compare. Pw is 270.00. But few complaints. Lilys 4 years ago was 200 all in. No complaints. This pla e offers the options of 220 with the add on of a slip and slide in the shower or 200 without. Not sure what the complaint is? If you don't want the extra services then save the 20.00 and still have a better time than most spots offer. Not every girl will be a home run but seriously, this place is pretty awesome. Once it's gone it will be discussed like some of the long gone Hendo spots. If you can't afford the hobby, stay home. It's not like they are asking for 5 bones. Most of these spots are a bargain. Just my two cents.

  6. #10534
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    Posts: 2966

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCreamLicker  [View Original Post]
    First off. If I may apologize, this may have been my flabby ass. LOL. Second of all, I am laughing at the cheapness of my fellow mongers. Let's compare. Pw is 270.00. But few complaints. Lilys 4 years ago was 200 all in. No complaints. This pla e offers the options of 220 with the add on of a slip and slide in the shower or 200 without. Not sure what the complaint is? If you don't want the extra services then save the 20.00 and still have a better time than most spots offer. Not every girl will be a home run but seriously, this place is pretty awesome. Once it's gone it will be discussed like some of the long gone Hendo spots. If you can't afford the hobby, stay home. It's not like they are asking for 5 bones. Most of these spots are a bargain. Just my two cents.
    Think you misunderstood it's for the ones that come in here and pay way above that like 400 and above that's what ruins it for the rest of us who want to keep rates in check you feel me?

  7. #10533

    I agree

    The cost is what it is. I'm certainly not going to negotiate with a massage lady, KGirl or escort to try to save 20 or 50 from a lady who I'm going to fuck. Makes no sense to me.

    Burlington was the first AMP I've gone to in probably 10 years. It was nice, and better than the AMP experiences from 10 years ago, but nowhere near as good as a KAgency in my opinion. For an extra 80 (cfs) or 180 (BBFS) I can get a full hour, 2 showers, a private apartment, and a much more GFE / pse experience. It's a no brainer for me. The AMP is more of a hit and run last minute thing for a quickie when I don't have the led time to schedule with an agency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qeast  [View Original Post]
    A TS, body slide and 50/50 runs about $210 in HNL now. I mention this because LV is sometimes jokingly referred to as the "5th island".

    MPs don't require screening, setting appointments, or jumping through any other hoops.

    My point is that the MPs know what prices are in different markets (the RAs travel and talk), and they know what their place in the local eco-system is.

  8. #10532
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    Posts: 412

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCGrind  [View Original Post]
    Donation was 220 as expected. Table shower and body slides were very nice, and BBBJ and cfs were too. ~~ Service / experience is not as good as the Kagencies I visit, but it's nice to just show up and not to have to schedule an appointment in advance.
    A TS, body slide and 50/50 runs about $210 in HNL now. I mention this because LV is sometimes jokingly referred to as the "5th island".

    MPs don't require screening, setting appointments, or jumping through any other hoops.

    My point is that the MPs know what prices are in different markets (the RAs travel and talk), and they know what their place in the local eco-system is.

  9. #10531

    My apologies

    Quote Originally Posted by Joesun1  [View Original Post]
    Problem is if you have the money then they don't give a shit about paying more so that hurts us overall if we can't afford it or don't want to pay or deal with that shit!
    First off. If I may apologize, this may have been my flabby ass. LOL. Second of all, I am laughing at the cheapness of my fellow mongers. Let's compare. Pw is 270.00. But few complaints. Lilys 4 years ago was 200 all in. No complaints. This pla e offers the options of 220 with the add on of a slip and slide in the shower or 200 without. Not sure what the complaint is? If you don't want the extra services then save the 20.00 and still have a better time than most spots offer. Not every girl will be a home run but seriously, this place is pretty awesome. Once it's gone it will be discussed like some of the long gone Hendo spots. If you can't afford the hobby, stay home. It's not like they are asking for 5 bones. Most of these spots are a bargain. Just my two cents.

  10. #10530

    Burlington 1st time

    Visited Burlington tonight and got the rookie treatment. Lulu asked for the full amount 2 20, I played dumb and emptied my pockets with a 5 and she took it.

    I got a new girl and can't remember he name. She was pretty with killer body with B cup. I got a standard table shower followed by massage in the room. She provided BBBJ and 69 followed by how do I wanted to bang her. I pounded that poor girl. Bella came in and introduced herself with some grinding action and gave my ice cream.

    Overall a fun experience.

  11. #10529
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirnasty64  [View Original Post]
    I agree, market prices are set by the buyer. Be smart and keep this hobby cost conscious. Happy hunting boys.
    When I paid only $200 mamasan said no table shower because I was $20 short. Negotiations are a two-way street. My massage was lame and the provider had saggy tits and a stretched-out box. I won't go back. Not worth it.

  12. #10528

    Bella at Burlington / Seven Seas

    Finally stopped by Seven Seas Spa (Burlington Center) early yesterday afternoon and was met by Bella in a tight form fitting dress showing off her assets. Nice lady and speaks pretty good English. As others have said she's had lots of plastic surgery including breast and butt implants and face work. Donation was 220 as expected. Table shower and body slides were very nice, and BBBJ and cfs were too. Finished with BBBJCIM. Experience was well worth the donation. Service / experience is not as good as the Kagencies I visit, but it's nice to just show up and not to have to schedule an appointment in advance. I'll probably repeat when I'm in the area.

    On the way out she introduced me to a new lady named Miranda. Very pretty, great smile, and nice body. Might try her next time.

  13. #10527
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    Posts: 2966

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaxx  [View Original Post]
    If you paid $200 vs $300 or more, it does not translate into better service. Does a $5 burger taste better if you paid $10? Of course not. It just means you overpaid for something that you could have gotten (potentially much) cheaper. And that's a big aspect of the mongering game, VALUE. As in not paying $10 for something you know really cost $5.

    The provider is just thinking how can I get all of this sucker's money, as in every dollar in his pocket right now? If you leave your wallet in your car and only have $200 on you that is the max they can get and checks the box for them. Asking about price, negotiating against yourself etc. That is a fool's exercise. It also shows your hand, as in now they know you COULD pay more (because you have more in your pocket), they smell blood in the water and are going to push and push and push for more. Don't fall for that. And eliminate little head's ability to influence a bad decision by leaving wallet and more cash in your car.

    You should set the price. And when possible don't even talk price, just hand the provider two bills and let the service begin. If they balk, say sorry babe that's all I got and stand firm. 9 times out of 10 that's the end of it and the service begins (and remember Chinese people have it in their DNA to haggle and really do turn the page quickly once the deal is agreed to -- and they don't give bad service from hurt feelings, that is totally an American thing)..
    Problem is if you have the money then they don't give a shit about paying more so that hurts us overall if we can't afford it or don't want to pay or deal with that shit!

  14. #10526

    Oldman Pervert

    A provider led me to the wrong door the other day and I saw an old man pulling his pants on. He had folds of skin like a sharpei, and it reminded me of the scene from the Hangover.

  15. #10525

    Best Massage Places

    New to the LV Massage scene and been reading this forum awhile but I see a lot of mixed advice so my question is simple:

    Are there any places that provide FS with attractive women (not Chinese grannies, ideally BBFS)? Some of the top spots here I see mixed reviews where people say that they're "attractive for a massage girl" but not really overall. Pricing is also kinda unclear, standard I'm used to is 150 - 200 for an hour with FS. Thanks!

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