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  1. #11000

    LC Poster

    I want this girl to be real. I really do. Posts multiple times every day and always with new pictures but nothing at all revealing. Maybe just screenshots from someone's Snapchat or Instagram. If anyone has seen her or talked to her, I'd be interested in hearing how it went. It doesn't scream scam or fake, but I'm not willing to TOFTT just yet.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...louis/93787598

  2. #10999
    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpicker  [View Original Post]
    And on top of everything else that's been said about the areas providers, there is also a loss in "passion" if you will.

    Does anyone even kiss and cuddle anymore? I used to make hour appt just to lay there for 30 minutes and cuddle, kiss and talk.

    There were any number of 10-15 known girls that at least act like they love to just hang naked and cuddle, sometimes it turned into me taking that 30 minutes and getting them off.

    That's as much fun as getting off myself if you ask me. It goes a long way to creating trust between the 2 of you.

    I can remember being face smothered, and forced to get some of them off because "my" time was up. "ok, now it's my turn".

    Do we even have that anymore? (aside from a few acceptions reported below).
    Just like anything else the hobby seems to ebb and wane.

    Good girls appear, then they are gone.

  3. #10998

    St. Louis sucks

    And on top of everything else that's been said about the areas providers, there is also a loss in "passion" if you will.

    Does anyone even kiss and cuddle anymore? I used to make hour appt just to lay there for 30 minutes and cuddle, kiss and talk.

    There were any number of 10-15 known girls that at least act like they love to just hang naked and cuddle, sometimes it turned into me taking that 30 minutes and getting them off.

    That's as much fun as getting off myself if you ask me. It goes a long way to creating trust between the 2 of you.

    I can remember being face smothered, and forced to get some of them off because "my" time was up. "ok, now it's my turn".

    Do we even have that anymore? (aside from a few acceptions reported below).

  4. #10997

    Agreed. My soapbox rant

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadDead22  [View Original Post]
    St Louis sucks. Not worth mongering here. The good looking ones are cost prohibitive. All the others charge by the pound.

    I usually just wait until I get to go on a trip to monger in literally any other city.

    Without the regulars that used to exist, this place is just another bible thumping pussy desert.
    I think the frustrating part is prior to, you could find a really good time using sites like LC and BP. Now they are crawling with scams and addicts. The few providers on there change numbers and pictures when the reviews catch up to their service. It's gotten even worse as more strippers and dancers are escorting and now. I am not sure about everyone else, but I think most strippers are terrible escorts. They're BJ is usually superior, but the entire service is usually cold, and robotic. The younger more attractive girls want 2-3 for the same service they were giving for half.

    Here's something that's mean, but honest, compared to other cities, mongering in STL is like getting a Waffle House type breakfast experience at middle-to-upper class café rates. Crazy thing is most of us probably would not mind 2-3 if you were getting something worthwhile. If her mood wasn't determined by her last hit, she was always clean, with a consistent service and setup. Remember when girls would answer the door in or change into lingerie? Maybe when they didn't randomly text at you 2/3 am asking if you were interested in a car date? Or when they didn't try and push their OF and video content on you like used car salesman? Mongers are not free from blame either. If you no-show providers and then get upset when they ghost you. If you're playing house with them, and or you're afraid or unwilling to set the same kind of rules with them as they do us, you're likely part of the problem. St Louis has gotten worse over the years, but all of us play a part in it. Hopefully a government regime change has a positive effect on things.

    Good Luck and be safe.

    M.

  5. #10996
    Quote Originally Posted by Unpluggedd  [View Original Post]
    I too am counting down the days when I can leave. Most providers I've seen on escort alligator are sketchy in one way or another. My best times have been with visiting providers.
    St Louis sucks. Not worth mongering here. The good looking ones are cost prohibitive. All the others charge by the pound.

    I usually just wait until I get to go on a trip to monger in literally any other city.

    Without the regulars that used to exist, this place is just another bible thumping pussy desert.

  6. #10995
    Quote Originally Posted by Unpluggedd  [View Original Post]
    I too am counting down the days when I can leave. Most providers I've seen on escort alligator are sketchy in one way or another. My best times have been with visiting providers.
    The gals residing in stl area often feel the same about us clients. Because of the no shows, stalkers, cancellations, haggling (when rates start at 200 $ Which is reasonable compared to nyc).

    I've never looked at the alligator site or seeking arrangements etc. I don't like arguing in life and I'm not arguing here. I'm simply saying my thoughts about this area, having traveled, are the opposite. And I have heard some absolute horror stories from gals about us guys here. I really like what I've seen thus far in the area. All we can do is tip when applicable and support the good providers. And not stalk, haggle, or harass them.

    (Further below, I sent this above reply mistakenly to ritewing. My mistake, and my apologies to him as I value his feedback. I had to repost my sentiment, above, for proper context. ‘The gals have many issues with the clients too (some of us),’ is all I was stating. And this causes the field to be less balanced for the worse). I often empathize with the providers. They likely deal with a lot of grief and aggravation sometimes.

  7. #10994

    Ritewing

    Quote Originally Posted by Badboy2  [View Original Post]
    For all the newbies or mongers who haven't been on the board, if there is one person on this board to listen to, it's Ritewing. There are seniors with more posts than he has, but his few posts are probably just as informative if not more than a senior with a 1,000 more posts than he has.

    This last piece of advice from his post should be heeded by all mongers. The reason I say is I've seen most of the providers he as seen or recommended and I can't find one that don't say what a great he guy he is. He also does things that most of us do not do when we see someone. He also forms a unique relationship with each provider in his own way that is very admirable. I don't know if I'll ever be as good as him, because he has set a high bar, but I'll follow his trail because the path he has blazed has been very rewarding so far.

    His comment about YMMV is spot on. His mileage is very high because he brings much more to table. And that's all I'll say about that. Oh and kudos to Aiming, also. I hear more good things about you two and its good stuff.
    I would most definitely agree with Badboy's comments. I have known Ritewing for quite some time through our interest in ladies and he has become a close friend. We have seen a lot of the same ladies and he is a tough act to follow. He usually shows up with gifts such as candy, wine or lingerie and he is just very personable and tries to focus on the lady. Most definitely a tough act to follow as all I usually show up with is a stiff Johnson.

  8. #10993
    Quote Originally Posted by Ritewing  [View Original Post]
    You defined the problem in two words. "Escort Alligator". I'm sure there are some good ones there, but 90% of all the bad reviews, rip offs, pimp / manager issues, deposit scams etc, come from that site.

    We still have some very good reliable providers here. Several with the Angels, several with the Vixens, and several very good indepentent ladies with most of them having donations less than the traveling providers. All provide top tier service. I know of at least a dozen that are high quality, completely safe, reliable, and lots of fun. There's probably double that amount (or more) of good ones, but I'm talking about the ones that I know.

    Avoid Escort Alligator/List Crawler, and you'll avoid most of the "sketchy" sessions you mentioned.
    I have had some very good sessions with women from Escort Alligator, but you do have to be picky, and careful. Plus I stay St. Charles and west of the Missouri river. When you read the add you can almost tell if it is BS, or a scam. Now that said, 95% of them are on drugs. I'm not going to pay 200 and up to just get my rocks off. I'm single, and can take a woman out for a evening, and have a roll in the sack for a lot less than that--if I want to put up with a woman all evening, and afterwards. Much easier for me to pay a escort for a half hour and be on my way, and if they text you--just ignore them.

  9. #10992

    Angie in Dupo

    I had the pleasure of meeting and spending some time with Angie. I have a wide array of tastes and was in the mood for a mature woman who knows what she's doing and she definitely fit the bill. Communication was easy and we set up a time for an hour session a day in advance. She was very welcoming at her home in Dupo. After some conversation to get to know each other a bit, we both stripped and started making out which transitioned to me going down on her to multiple Os. I then flipped her over and ate her from behind until she was begging for my cock. She gave a very nice BBBJ and since I knew Greek was an option but not guaranteed, I asked if she thought she could handle me. She didn't seem so sure. I put her back on her stomach for more oral from behind then on with the cover for lazy doggy, to doggy, to mish at which point I told her I wanted her ass. To my surprise, she was up to the challenge. I'm on the larger side, by no means huge, but she lubed me up and slowly slid me into her tight little ass in mish. We stayed there for a bit then switched to RCG Greek which she said she had never done but really enjoyed. After a few minutes of watching that ass take me balls deep I blew in the bag. All in all, it was a great session and exactly what I was looking forward. Great body and great performance in all areas. At $3 for the hour and almost no rules except no BB, she was fantastic. I definitely recommend her if you like a mature woman who knows what she wants and knows how to please.

    https://tryst.link/escort/angie-18

  10. #10991

    Pantyhose Fetish

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike94  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have any leads on a woman who wears pantyhose while giving a massage?
    Try Abbey James. I know she caters to fetishes and will 100% wear pantyhose and likely do other things with them as well. Nothing more than massage and handshake on the menu so no BBBJ or FS, but she has a fantastic body and gives a good massage.

    314xxxx181.

  11. #10990
    Quote Originally Posted by RomanBath  [View Original Post]
    I would just ask whomever you would like to see if she could do that for you. Ask her the day before and be sure to tip, as she might have to go out and buy something she doesn't normally wear. The good ones try to accommodate reasonable requests.
    Thanks, I don't do full service, I just like the back rub and cock teasing, it's just nice to feel some nylons while I'm enjoying the massage.

  12. #10989
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike94  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have any leads on a woman who wears pantyhose while giving a massage?
    I would just ask whomever you would like to see if she could do that for you. Ask her the day before and be sure to tip, as she might have to go out and buy something she doesn't normally wear. The good ones try to accommodate reasonable requests.

  13. #10988

    Pantyhose massage

    Anyone have any leads on a woman who wears pantyhose while giving a massage?

  14. #10987

    Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritewing  [View Original Post]
    You defined the problem in two words. "Escort Alligator". I'm sure there are some good ones there, but 90% of all the bad reviews, rip offs, pimp / manager issues, deposit scams etc, come from that site.

    We still have some very good reliable providers here. Several with the Angels, several with the Vixens, and several very good indepentent ladies with most of them having donations less than the traveling providers. All provide top tier service. I know of at least a dozen that are high quality, completely safe, reliable, and lots of fun. There's probably double that amount (or more) of good ones, but I'm talking about the ones that I know.
    It's funny when I talk to the few people (gals) I've seen. They feel the same about "us." the no shows, stalkers, cancellations, haggling (when rates start at 200 $ Which is reasonable compared to NYC etc) and so on. I'm not an expert. I've seen only a few but those few have been pretty fantastic. I've never looked at the alligator site or seeking arrangements etc. I don't like arguing in life and I'm not arguing here. I'm simply saying my thoughts about this area, having traveled, are kind of the opposite. And I have heard some absolute horror stories from gals about us guys here. Not all of us but a few.

    I fear that makes the scene worse for the rest of us. Example. I can't get some Providers to even return messages or accept me as a new client because they have been harassed, haggled with, and stalked—one lady told me she's not accepting anyone new— no exceptions— because of some guy or guys around town. I guess all we can do is support the good ones in the area and tip when possible or applicable, compliment, show up / cancel with notice, and the scene will get better? I was ghosted once and that wasn't pleasant so I realize there are funky issues and people out there of course (was one time only for me). Best to you all.

  15. #10986

    Escort Alligator

    Quote Originally Posted by Unpluggedd  [View Original Post]
    I too am counting down the days when I can leave. Most providers I've seen on escort alligator are sketchy in one way or another. My best times have been with visiting providers.
    You defined the problem in two words. "Escort Alligator". I'm sure there are some good ones there, but 90% of all the bad reviews, rip offs, pimp / manager issues, deposit scams etc, come from that site.

    We still have some very good reliable providers here. Several with the Angels, several with the Vixens, and several very good indepentent ladies with most of them having donations less than the traveling providers. All provide top tier service. I know of at least a dozen that are high quality, completely safe, reliable, and lots of fun. There's probably double that amount (or more) of good ones, but I'm talking about the ones that I know.

    Avoid Escort Alligator/List Crawler, and you'll avoid most of the "sketchy" sessions you mentioned.

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