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  1. #16592

    Pick and choose

    Quote Originally Posted by Andante  [View Original Post]
    So Pillock, can you please explain how verification normally works? I ask because it seems like "higher end" ladies require more. For example, there's Asteria Wolf here in CBUS. She has great reviews and is definitely legit. Her website says she requires:

    A photo of your driver's license or other valid, government-issued I'd (name, photo, and birth date visible, other information may be censored if you wish).

    A photo of yourself holding your I'd next to your face so I can see you match the photo.

    There are many ways that I can verify employment. If your name or photo show up on a company website, if you have a well-established LinkedIn profile, or if you can send me an image of your work I'd.

    Here's her website: https://asteriawolf.com/contact/.

    Seems that this keeps her safe as well as me. Do you just say "no way" and move on to someone else?
    There has been 3 times I've given my Id and work info. And it was only to girls on eros that were heavily reviewed and trusted. You obviously wouldn't do it for a girl on STG or listcrawler, but I'd hope that's common sense.

  2. #16591

    Jaime

    Quote Originally Posted by KC7676  [View Original Post]
    Goes by Jamie in real life but name is Hvezda, which is her Czech given name. I think she's been in the business for 8-10 years now which is about how long ago I saw her. She must be in her 30's now. Yes she has an attitude. If you want to piss her off, pull off the cover right before you are going to explode and blast one her tummy.
    I've seen her so many times I can begin to guess how many it really is. Yes she can be a real bit ch. She has a massive attitude. She had a problem with her pregnancy and she has no visible baby damage. Until 4 weeks ago I was seeing her twice a week most weeks. And we worked out a much better deal than what she will usually do for anyone. This hobby really is YMMV. What these girls will or won't do can vary greatly depending on any number of variables. But what people have said about her only taking 4 inches is true. She doesn't want to handle much more. Not saying she can't, she just doesn't want to. What she will donof properly motivated is night and day from her usual BS.

  3. #16590

    Verification

    Quote Originally Posted by DJBust44  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree they can be fine today and crazy tomorrow. It only takes one time for one of these providers to expose you. Not worth it IMO for a night of fun. To send that much personal information is something I am just not comfortable doing. Do you think these providers delete your information after you meet? Or is it horded on a hard drive somewhere to be access by anyone later? But everyone is free to have fun at their own risk. Stay Safe!

    DJ.
    No way in hell I'm sending Info on my myself like that to anyone. There has to be better methods of proving you're legitimate. I don't know, maybe meet in public somewhere grab a drink or a bite?

  4. #16589
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    Crazy Girls Are Not Your Only Risk

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnanon  [View Original Post]
    Few years ago, somebody tried to blackmail me. Not a provider, but a Bitcoin blackmailer. But they did not have my full info, just my P411 I'd, an email address (where they sent the blackmail) that I only used for hobbying, and my first name.

    What most likely happened is that either a provider's email account or laptop was compromised. Now imagine if that laptop had my real name and normal email address on it? Imagine if evidence you banged hookers was in the hands of foreign cybercriminals?
    It may be less of a risk than before but in the past there were also blackmail sites that paid people to capture names, pictures and telephone numbers of random men on dating and mongering sites. They would then post the info on sites with names like ExposingJohns or PredatorAlert. They made sure your info would pop up if searched. I saw some real names and pictures on those sites. They caught some of my fake info. I was contacted by an ostensibly third party who offered to get the info taken down in exchange for a four figure fee. I ignored them but it ruined my burner number at the time. Imagine anyone, including a potential provider, doing a search and finding info labelling you a predator. I am more cautious now. The profile that did this to me was a 'woman' from the Columbus area.

    BAM.

  5. #16588

    100% Agree!

    Quote Originally Posted by TBobber  [View Original Post]
    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.

    If a provider decided to really come after you, and saved up incriminating evidence against you to blackmail you, or just flipped TF out and decided to out every monger she could and you were included.. How bad could you be hurt personally and financially? I know of this happening from Indy's (RIP) at least 3 times, all three considered "high end" girls at the time, in the $300 to $500 range between 09 and 15.

    Are you married, have kids, would your boss care, are you in the public eye, are you a deacon at your church and you'd blow your brains out if a hooker showed up to out you during revival week?

    If a hooker with your info really couldn't hurt you, I.D. yourself to them if you want, invite them to your house for outcall if they're semi sane and you do your research.. If a desperate woman can prove you pay money to bang hookers could really do serious damage to your life, don't go passed joining a verification service like P411.

    Yes, it does happen. Yes, a mad or desperate enough provider will blackmail you. Yes, a mad, crazy or desperate enough hooker/provider will out you if blackmail doesn't work as proof to other mongers she'll really do it. Yes, a hooker pushed to her limit by the life might just break and go psycho and out every monger they have enough info on to out because they got ass raped for the last time and literally lost their sanity and they decide to strike out against everybody.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE. There are some truly decent, moral (when it comes to everything but sex ) women that sell pussy because it can be very good easy money. I've known several, hell, I'm friends with a few ex providers that are out of the game, living normal lives for years now, over all really nice women. With that being said, go back and read the headline again.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.
    Totally agree they can be fine today and crazy tomorrow. It only takes one time for one of these providers to expose you. Not worth it IMO for a night of fun. To send that much personal information is something I am just not comfortable doing. Do you think these providers delete your information after you meet? Or is it horded on a hard drive somewhere to be access by anyone later? But everyone is free to have fun at their own risk. Stay Safe!

    DJ.

  6. #16587

    Crazy girls are not your only risk.

    Few years ago, somebody tried to blackmail me. Not a provider, but a Bitcoin blackmailer. But they did not have my full info, just my P411 I'd, an email address (where they sent the blackmail) that I only used for hobbying, and my first name.

    I notified P411, just in case they were breached. They yelled at me: Don't reuse passwords across multiple sites, yadda, yadda, yadda. Except I hadn't. I use a password manager and long random passwords. And not an online one, but a local encrypted one that sits on an encrypted laptop running Linux. That, and the fact they didn't have any other info on me made me certain I was not the breach. I know at least one other monger that got the same threat, but there did not seem to be a widespread hack of P411 (because every hooker board would have been on fire with the news).

    What most likely happened is that either a provider's email account or laptop was compromised. Now imagine if that laptop had my real name and normal email address on it? Imagine if evidence you banged hookers was in the hands of foreign cybercriminals?

  7. #16586
    Quote Originally Posted by HotRod4305  [View Original Post]
    And if you think a $500 provider is doing this because she's horny your nuts the ***** is doing drugs or is an alcoholic or has a gambling problem she's got an expensive habit of some sort to be selling her body no matter what the price.
    Bingo. I know 1st hand of 3 local providers, that primarily use P411 for verification, that are 100% using on a daily basis as I have seen it done with my own eyes. All 3 of them also have some heavy emotional damage that I can theoretically see them going off the deep end as another poster mentioned and raining hellfire down if they felt like it.

  8. #16585
    Quote Originally Posted by HotRod4305  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion I wouldn't give a photo out and would absolutely never give a copy of my drivers license and never where I work. I won't even give that info out when I first start dating a woman in my personal life. Even she doesn't need to know that till we've been going out for a while. Way to much to loose giving out info to a provider no matter what she charges. And if you think a $500 provider is doing this because she's horny your nuts the ***** is doing drugs or is an alcoholic or has a gambling problem she's got an expensive habit of some sort to be selling her body no matter what the price.
    I've known 2, out of hundreds, maybe even 1000, that are now retired who's addiction was 100+K a year for 6 to 10 hours of work a week. Maybe 20 hrs if you include advertising, maintaining their social network, screening, travel time. Only 2 women that actually decided, I'm going to be a sex worker, run it like a business, and make bank! But, they worked YEARS ago. Since SESTA / FOSTA made it so much harder to advertise and network clients.

    Women that legit realize they have no truly valuable job skills, then find out how much a guy, a like completely normal guy not ugly or morbidly obese fat or abusive, but just a normal ass dude that doesn't want to pick up random girls at a bar, just a guy that wants to get a really good BJ and bang a pretty woman. How much we'll pay is right up there with what we're already paying and willing to pay for a good lawyer. LOL, at least most guys. For a hot college age girl, that gags herself on your shaft, dresses nice, has great hygiene, asks if you want her to wear perfume, puts on a convincing show while she's going CG, goes RC without you asking, then convinces you she orgasmed 3 times while you banged her doggy? Yeah, my normal lawyer ran me 350 an hour 10 years ago, and I think 600 now, but I haven't needed him in a few years.

    Admittedly though, nowadays I have little use for lawyers, and would rather have a nice legit therapeutic back rub, followed by a nice BBBJ / HJ for 100 to 250 if I find a great one.

  9. #16584

    My 2 Cents

    Quote Originally Posted by HotRod4305  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion I wouldn't give a photo out and would absolutely never give a copy of my drivers license and never where I work. I won't even give that info out when I first start dating a woman in my personal life. Even she doesn't need to know that till we've been going out for a while. Way to much to loose giving out info to a provider no matter what she charges. And if you think a $500 provider is doing this because she's horny your nuts the ***** is doing drugs or is an alcoholic or has a gambling problem she's got an expensive habit of some sort to be selling her body no matter what the price.
    In my opinion the only thing that "keeps both of us safe" in the providers eyes is some sort of bullshit idea of mutually assured destruction. I am assuming these girls want to screen for background check reasons and all which I can understand but they should realize the ones that are assaulting providers are the ones who have never gotten caught doing it because of the plausible deniability. Guys with clean records and good work history etc could just be the ones who like bashing hookers during a session. Mongers take all the risk as far as damage to life in society is concerned while providers take 90% of the physical risk. A monger isn't going to be able to out a provider to anyone about what the provider is doing. We already know law enforcement takes a harder stance on John's than providers, we already know society is thankfully looking at sex work in a more accepting view. It will always be the customer that takes on the most risk in this situation. Destroyed income, destroyed family life, destroyed spotless records? Giving someone all the tools to make this happen is just asking for trouble. I am of course a bit more paranoid than most when it comes to this it seems but I have stuck to the club scene and a bit of the SW scene to try and network contacts out towards escorts instead of blindly rolling the dice. Maybe I am just being a pussy about it and all but I like my lifestyle the way it is LOL.

  10. #16583

    Anyone visited Asian providers from ads?

    Has anyone seen the providers from the advertisement below? Is this real?

    https://www.adultlook.com/p/3247929

    I texted both numbers in the ads, and got the location in UA. The hotel looks nice and got the pictures of the providers via couple text exchanges, no verification just booking. Has anyone pulled the trigger and visited the place? Wondering the look, experience and age of the providers.

    Thanks.

  11. #16582

    Photos

    Quote Originally Posted by TBobber  [View Original Post]
    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.

    If a provider decided to really come after you, and saved up incriminating evidence against you to blackmail you, or just flipped TF out and decided to out every monger she could and you were included.. How bad could you be hurt personally and financially? I know of this happening from Indy's (RIP) at least 3 times, all three considered "high end" girls at the time, in the $300 to $500 range between 09 and 15.

    Are you married, have kids, would your boss care, are you in the public eye, are you a deacon at your church and you'd blow your brains out if a hooker showed up to out you during revival week?

    If a hooker with your info really couldn't hurt you, I.D. yourself to them if you want, invite them to your house for outcall if they're semi sane and you do your research.. If a desperate woman can prove you pay money to bang hookers could really do serious damage to your life, don't go passed joining a verification service like P411.

    Yes, it does happen. Yes, a mad or desperate enough provider will blackmail you. Yes, a mad, crazy or desperate enough hooker/provider will out you if blackmail doesn't work as proof to other mongers she'll really do it. Yes, a hooker pushed to her limit by the life might just break and go psycho and out every monger they have enough info on to out because they got ass raped for the last time and literally lost their sanity and they decide to strike out against everybody.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE. There are some truly decent, moral (when it comes to everything but sex ) women that sell pussy because it can be very good easy money. I've known several, hell, I'm friends with a few ex providers that are out of the game, living normal lives for years now, over all really nice women. With that being said, go back and read the headline again.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.
    In my opinion I wouldn't give a photo out and would absolutely never give a copy of my drivers license and never where I work. I won't even give that info out when I first start dating a woman in my personal life. Even she doesn't need to know that till we've been going out for a while. Way to much to loose giving out info to a provider no matter what she charges. And if you think a $500 provider is doing this because she's horny your nuts the ***** is doing drugs or is an alcoholic or has a gambling problem she's got an expensive habit of some sort to be selling her body no matter what the price.

  12. #16581
    Quote Originally Posted by TBobber  [View Original Post]
    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.

    If a provider decided to really come after you, and saved up incriminating evidence against you to blackmail you, or just flipped TF out and decided to out every monger she could and you were included.. How bad could you be hurt personally and financially? I know of this happening from Indy's (RIP) at least 3 times, all three considered "high end" girls at the time, in the $300 to $500 range between 09 and 15.

    Are you married, have kids, would your boss care, are you in the public eye, are you a deacon at your church and you'd blow your brains out if a hooker showed up to out you during revival week?

    If a hooker with your info really couldn't hurt you, I.D. yourself to them if you want, invite them to your house for outcall if they're semi sane and you do your research.. If a desperate woman can prove you pay money to bang hookers could really do serious damage to your life, don't go passed joining a verification service like P411.

    Yes, it does happen. Yes, a mad or desperate enough provider will blackmail you. Yes, a mad, crazy or desperate enough hooker/provider will out you if blackmail doesn't work as proof to other mongers she'll really do it. Yes, a hooker pushed to her limit by the life might just break and go psycho and out every monger they have enough info on to out because they got ass raped for the last time and literally lost their sanity and they decide to strike out against everybody.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE. There are some truly decent, moral (when it comes to everything but sex ) women that sell pussy because it can be very good easy money. I've known several, hell, I'm friends with a few ex providers that are out of the game, living normal lives for years now, over all really nice women. With that being said, go back and read the headline again.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.
    Do you provide real I'd? To high end providers If not, where do people get their fake ones? Also, what is the best way to verify provider after you provided your info?

  13. #16580

    Women who do this tend to not be exceptionally stable.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxcarRazor  [View Original Post]
    It's ultimately up to you how far you're willing to go to see the girls you want. I have provided multiple forms of identification for multiple women in my short time in the game, but I exclusively seek out higher end talent. If you don't feel comfortable verifying that's fine, but then you are limiting yourself to the kind of providers that are the very reason you feel uneasy in the first place.
    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.

    If a provider decided to really come after you, and saved up incriminating evidence against you to blackmail you, or just flipped TF out and decided to out every monger she could and you were included.. How bad could you be hurt personally and financially? I know of this happening from Indy's (RIP) at least 3 times, all three considered "high end" girls at the time, in the $300 to $500 range between 09 and 15.

    Are you married, have kids, would your boss care, are you in the public eye, are you a deacon at your church and you'd blow your brains out if a hooker showed up to out you during revival week?

    If a hooker with your info really couldn't hurt you, I.D. yourself to them if you want, invite them to your house for outcall if they're semi sane and you do your research.. If a desperate woman can prove you pay money to bang hookers could really do serious damage to your life, don't go passed joining a verification service like P411.

    Yes, it does happen. Yes, a mad or desperate enough provider will blackmail you. Yes, a mad, crazy or desperate enough hooker/provider will out you if blackmail doesn't work as proof to other mongers she'll really do it. Yes, a hooker pushed to her limit by the life might just break and go psycho and out every monger they have enough info on to out because they got ass raped for the last time and literally lost their sanity and they decide to strike out against everybody.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE. There are some truly decent, moral (when it comes to everything but sex ) women that sell pussy because it can be very good easy money. I've known several, hell, I'm friends with a few ex providers that are out of the game, living normal lives for years now, over all really nice women. With that being said, go back and read the headline again.

    WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.

  14. #16579

    Pic ok for High end Providers with good reviews.

    Quote Originally Posted by RickMann  [View Original Post]
    Send only to high end girls or agency.
    I don't know about Ohio, but in Florida as long as there no verbage about the act, it's not illegal to do that. I can't afford that level of service, so I can't help you from an experience stand point. Also if you can afford that route you should be able to use her as a reference, and only do it once.

  15. #16578

    Very helpful

    Bpxcar Razor and SevenInche. Thank you. Very helpful. I appreciate it.

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