NoVA SugarBabies

[Mcsylv]

Any info on this girl:

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-6afa3630da32

Def a 6 at best. I started off with 300, she said nothing less than 5, but she's clean so I don't need a condom. I kept negotiating and said 5 is fine if she's staying at least 2 hours, and she said okay.

Really put off by her lesbian looks and easy BB access, but she also sent me nudes of her being tied up with another girl. I figure if she's got some hot friends, maybe she could introduce me.

[Mcsylv]

Lmao! Dude. You don't think that literally every single woman on that website that's banging dudes for money, that is selling their bodies for sex, that there's not something completely fucked up with their judgement?? I hate to break it to you but most normal, stable, moral, well adjusted successful women aren't on that website and wouldn't be caught dead on it. I've yet to meet anyone on there that wasn't completely damaged in one way or another or that I'd be willing to bring home to meet my Mom.

While I agree with you that most girls on the site who stay a long time are off in some way, I do think there's a large percentage that dip their toes in because their friend said it would be a good idea, or they saw it on a Youtube video about easy ways to make money as a young girl. It's too mainstream now, when you have TikTokers and celebs doing OF and talking about sugar daddies, the average college girl will at least try it when they are in tough financial situations. There's also a select few who are normal girls, just happened to meet a good SD in like their first 2 days instead of the creeps and scammers, and got off the site. Had a relationship, ended it after a while, then got back on and started looking again. These ones are expecting the same good results, and haven't gotten corrupted by scammers, SD's who don't pay after fucking, etc. Just think about all the platonic-only girls. Yea some are scammers themselves, but many are just innocent and naive girls who saw a tiktok about how she can get a man to give her thousands for her company on dinner dates, and got on SA.

Also the women being damaged is one thing, but still I've had very few experiences with girls on SA where they're down to just fuck without a dinner or coffee meeting to check things out. The ones who have been down are always scammers who ask for money for Uber or babysitter an hour before the date. Or they're semi-pro / pros posting on SA, and even if they're dtf, it's a lower quality experience where there's no BBFS, sometimes not even GFE. They also clock watch or try to leave as soon as 1 pop is done.

I've also never gotten anyone to accept $300 allowance when that's the number I always start off at, even 7's and 6's LOL. 8-9's usually negotiate and end up in the 500-700 range for a couple hour dinner date and bedroom fun. Still cheaper than an escort since those charge $500+/ hr. Been talking to this really hot blonde escort on Tryst and a 2 hr date is going to run me 2 k, so SA is still way cheaper. https://tryst.link/escort/date-riley.

[Arty33]

Between not the girl you take to mom vs poor judgement to meet some dude straight in hotel room. They still need to exercise caution because what if you're not who you said you are. I've had SBs tell me they stayed back observing to see who the guy they were going to meet and turns out the guy is older, fatter, and uglier than picture, then she bolted. So, are you saying they should just trust your texts and pictures online and come to your room, that's not the kind of girl I would hook up with. But like I said if you do, then that's your thing, I am not judging you. So what's the issue, I personally have an interest to make sure they are exercising caution in meeting guys, so I know something about their selection, not meet any guy for money in hotel.

Lmao! Dude. You don't think that literally every single woman on that website that's banging dudes for money, that is selling their bodies for sex, that there's not something completely fucked up with their judgement?? I hate to break it to you but most normal, stable, moral, well adjusted successful women aren't on that website and wouldn't be caught dead on it. I've yet to meet anyone on there that wasn't completely damaged in one way or another or that I'd be willing to bring home to meet my Mom.

[Arty33]

From her texts, all sob stories about her dad is dying her stepmom being mean, told her no money to meet. Finally she called me some names and left the chat. Knew she had no real interest since she started texting without even checking my pictures, LOL, that's a dead giveaway someone's into money scam.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-ae6336ae601a

She for real. Met up with her when she had a different profile a few months ago. Her pics are heavily edited. She has a lot of face sores, and skinny. I talk 5 mins and knew I wasn't interested. Say she use to be into heavy drug use. I'm guessing she meth user. Also notice a tall light skin black guy eye us during coffee. She seem jittery around me, so I made an excuse to end M&G quickly. I drove one big circle. Then I saw her walking with the guy eyeing us earlier to the bus stop. Seems like he was her partner. I would be very careful with this one.

[Old Chinese Guy]

I feel like at least 50% of the time when I give an extra amount to a girl, she then expects it next time we meet, even if I make it clear the extra is a 1-time exception. Like when I give her the normal amount on the next date, I get the look and a question about how come it's lower this time, not recognizing that the last time I gave her extra for a special circumstance, or that I was just feeling generous, or she gave me a rimjob I don't fucking know. Then the situation turns awkward, at some point I have to tell her I don't like it when she demands extra and that it's not a gift then, she's just raising the allowance. Then she gets hissy about how I don't appreciate her, and next thing I know I'm down 1 SB and +1 blocked number.

I think it depends on the girl and your relationship. I have given extra when asked if it's for something specific and I value our relationship, like some extra spending money when they travel. Or if they need (not want) something urgently. But it is always clear it is the exception more than the rule. So rates always stay the same for me with extras from time to time. It does essentially boil down to a higher overall rate.

[JonFisher]

I feel like at least 50% of the time when I give an extra amount to a girl, she then expects it next time we meet, even if I make it clear the extra is a 1-time exception. Like when I give her the normal amount on the next date, I get the look and a question about how come it's lower this time, not recognizing that the last time I gave her extra for a special circumstance, or that I was just feeling generous, or she gave me a rimjob I don't fucking know. Then the situation turns awkward, at some point I have to tell her I don't like it when she demands extra and that it's not a gift then, she's just raising the allowance. Then she gets hissy about how I don't appreciate her, and next thing I know I'm down 1 SB and +1 blocked number.

I have found that a small gift costing 10 $ is worth a lot more say 100 $ in allowance money and they don't expect that every time. I have a bunch of 10,25, 50 gift cards and some 12 $ pyjamas from Costco etc. in my car. Or wine bottle if over 21,. I hand them out occasionally and they get me far more mileage.

But agree with Arty, you give what you feel you are comfortable with. I started giving one of my SB 100 more because I was seeing her less and told her its because of inflation and by jolly, she loves me so much more. It was because she did not expect it.

[Mcsylv]

First up, I won't meet anyone directly in a hotel room, that's a waste of my time & money, what if I don't like her in person, I am picky who I want to have sex with so I want to make sure I like her personality somewhat before I fuck her. Second, I won't trust a girl who'd meet with a guy directly in a hotel room first up, something off with her judgement, but to each their own, I don't judge others who do, it's their thing, like I said I am selective. Lastly, what I pay them is what I feel is reasonable for me, not the lowest I can negotiate, if I like her and she's nice to me then it's not an issue. I've given SB's more than they asked sometimes and that's just because she's being a sweetheart and do everything I want out of her, including being on time, not waste my money on expensive dining, staying as long as I want her to, being good in bed, not showing irritability etc.

I feel like at least 50% of the time when I give an extra amount to a girl, she then expects it next time we meet, even if I make it clear the extra is a 1-time exception. Like when I give her the normal amount on the next date, I get the look and a question about how come it's lower this time, not recognizing that the last time I gave her extra for a special circumstance, or that I was just feeling generous, or she gave me a rimjob I don't fucking know. Then the situation turns awkward, at some point I have to tell her I don't like it when she demands extra and that it's not a gift then, she's just raising the allowance. Then she gets hissy about how I don't appreciate her, and next thing I know I'm down 1 SB and +1 blocked number.

[Dimples572]

Second, I won't trust a girl who'd meet with a guy directly in a hotel room first up, something off with her judgement, but to each their own, I don't judge others who do, it's their thing, like I said I am selective.

Lmao! Dude. You don't think that literally every single woman on that website that's banging dudes for money, that is selling their bodies for sex, that there's not something completely fucked up with their judgement?? I hate to break it to you but most normal, stable, moral, well adjusted successful women aren't on that website and wouldn't be caught dead on it. I've yet to meet anyone on there that wasn't completely damaged in one way or another or that I'd be willing to bring home to meet my Mom.

[Cruisin1011]

Lastly, what I pay them is what I feel is reasonable for me, not the lowest I can negotiate, if I like her and she's nice to me then it's not an issue. I've given SB's more than they asked sometimes and that's just because she's being a sweetheart and do everything I want out of her, including being on time, not waste my money on expensive dining, staying as long as I want her to, being good in bed, not showing irritability etc.

Exactly this.

[Arty33]

Quick to move to text, wants to meet quickly as possible, wants $100 for meeting at the diner. Everything else after is vague, so a m&g money scam.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-ae6336ae601a

[Mandane]

Over conversation she seemed much more interested in getting identifying details about me than in scheduling a meeting. She's slick, but too much evasion and too interested in my details. Which I always lie about anyway. Blocked and moved on. Recommend you avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-1b63ae3e3680

[Tyrex2]

https://members.seeking.com/messages...0-dad39902aefc

Chatted her up. Seems nice enough - low key and smooth. Went to text quickly. Bartends or so she says, apparently not new to this. Initial ask was 700, dropped to 550. Not for me at that price, but one of you all might like. Will play w / o cover for upsell. First picture is "older", second is from "last night".

[Tyrex2]

That's most likely a setup for a robbery.

Reason I waived off.

[TomFordModel]

She started at $1000 for me. Quickly came down to $300. The pics she sent of her body were amazing, he face not so much. I made a date with her, when I parked on the street of her apartment she was already waiting outside. I definitely wasn't interested in what I saw and promptly drove off. Her body was not as fit as the several pics she sent me.

LOL! There has to be someone that dropped 1 k for it. Who was it. Reveal yourself.

[Arty33]

First up, I won't meet anyone directly in a hotel room, that's a waste of my time & money, what if I don't like her in person, I am picky who I want to have sex with so I want to make sure I like her personality somewhat before I fuck her. Second, I won't trust a girl who'd meet with a guy directly in a hotel room first up, something off with her judgement, but to each their own, I don't judge others who do, it's their thing, like I said I am selective. Lastly, what I pay them is what I feel is reasonable for me, not the lowest I can negotiate, if I like her and she's nice to me then it's not an issue. I've given SB's more than they asked sometimes and that's just because she's being a sweetheart and do everything I want out of her, including being on time, not waste my money on expensive dining, staying as long as I want her to, being good in bed, not showing irritability etc.

This reinforces my suspicion that you're a good looking dude LOL. Girls want to go straight to your hotel room without even meeting you, not knowing if you could be a creep or have terrible BO or something. You also said most of us are suckers for paying $500, there's plenty of young 8-9's willing to do it for 250-350. I really don't think that's most people's result on SA.