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  1. #14809
    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayJay  [View Original Post]
    Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

    Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

    Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

    We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.
    100%.

    Thanks for speaking truth.

  2. #14808

    What "Investigation"

    Highly unlikely the cops are going to launch an "investigation" into guys getting handjobs for cash. BBU has no element of human trafficking or exploiting minors that normally drives these stings.

    Has anyone who has actually gotten pulled over posted about it? No. Has anyone with personal knowledge about BbU's supposed "database" posted about it? No. It's all rumor and hearsay.

    Unless I missed something, the only "evidence" we have of an "investigation" is Benz's vague statement without any corroborating evidence or facts. Benz is a well known BBU hater.

    We all greatly fear being arrested and having our dirty secret exposed to the public, wrecking our lives. That anxiety is causing over reaction. Just my two cents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!

  3. #14807

    Skeptical

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!
    These women are smart. I have a hard time believing their database contains anything more than names, contact info, and dates of services, none of which are damning evidence. If they included proclivities and specifics as to specific services rendered, that would be incriminating evidence against themselves, and I don't think they're that stupid.

  4. #14806
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfire  [View Original Post]
    until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!
    Sadly, this is so true.

  5. #14805
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4409
    Quote Originally Posted by RallyToo  [View Original Post]
    FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.
    The website could stay up as long as the hosting company is paid. They might have been paid months in advance, for a better price.

    You coud go get a massage and report back, if you think it's open.

    At this point it would be like taking one for the team!

  6. #14804

    Bbu website

    Quote Originally Posted by RallyToo  [View Original Post]
    FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.
    If the rumors of an investigation are true, and the rumors of a database that includes names, pictures and proclivities are true that website won't be up much longer. If those rumors are not true then it will continue as business as usual. But either way it should be a wake up call to those that defend the cameras and database as good business and marketing. I'm sure more than a few guys are worrying today about whether or not the rumors are true and waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop if they are. And I suspect if there is a database there will be more than one divorce coming in Grand Rapids once the phone calls and requests for interviews with the investigators take place. I'm hoping the rumors are just that, viscous rumors but until more information does or doesn't come out I recommend extreme caution when dealing with the 2 business' mentioned!

  7. #14803
    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.
    Props to Benz1 and HangLow. Their warnings were spot-on correct.

  8. #14802

    Bbu

    FWIW. The bbq website is still up and showing availability.

    Quote Originally Posted by LlMoe24  [View Original Post]
    While I can't confirm this guy's specific story as I don't know him, I can confirm that BBU is under investigation. Customers and girls have been pulled over by detectives in unmarked cars for the purpose of gathering evidence.

  9. #14801

    Good job

    Hey Ekko,

    Well done. For a first review this is excellent. You contributed and covered important info, but didn't oversell. I like it and look forward to reading more posts from you. I can't offer much to answer your questions, but hopefully others can. For the combination of an actual massage with good BJ, based on those I've seen, I'd recommend Saisha at Royal Touch--but she's not Asian. They have Asian providers there, but they also have other providers there that will do HE (pretty sure all of them will), but not necessarily BJ. I've seen 3 providers there and gotten just HE from the other two besides Saisha. Saisha is a curvy Latina that, IMO, is quite attractive. I think when it comes to MPs, anywhere that offers BJ is going to be more expensive than what you tipped Joy and this is true of Saisha. But she's really good at what she does, again IMO. As we often say, YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekko131  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,

    First time posting on here and I took some recommendations as I'm going pretty new to the hobby. Took a chance on Joy since some have left both positive and negative reviews of her.

    But I wanted to add to the positives since she was a great time. Called over the phone and setup an appointment for 45 minutes after I called. When I got there parking was easy, building discreet, and upon entry everything was clean and she was happily waiting for me. She immediately caught on to why I was there and didn't make it nerve wracking or weird, started flirting instantaneously and commented on how well I smelled (good hygiene is a must as far as I've gathered here fellas).

    Anyway, she left me to undress, and once she came back in she got right to business. Nice bit of teasing around my nether regions and got me to flip over at the very beginning. She did bring up the tip, but not in an aggressive or imposing way. Just mentioned that she could help my friend and I if we paid enough. Gave her $80 as I'd seen someone else do right off the bat and she was pretty giddy. It was cute to be honest. Service was decent, nothing to write home about, but she let me roam pretty far on her tits, ass, and even between her legs. Everything under the waist was over clothes, but she let me see and touch her breasts pretty liberally (Great tits as most have stated as well). After release, she cleaned me up and told me to flip back onto my stomach to finish up massage. That was also decent, but not exhilarating or life changing by any means. Spent a lot of time on my legs and butt, which I appreciated and enjoyed.

    All in all I would give Joy at Tuina a solid 7/10. Not the best time of your life, but far from the worst. I'm glad I took the chance and she was so nice and welcoming I'd be lying if I said I wasn't planning on going again. Her smile is contagious and she kept using terms of endearment on me and made me feel welcome. Probably all part of the act to get paid, but if that's the case I'm fine with her making good money from it. Don't skip out on her lads and give Joy a shot!

    Anybody have recommendations for Asian MT's like Joy or younger that I should give a shot in the area? Let me know! I've read a lot of posts on here, but most MT's don't sound my speed yet as I'm mostly attracted to Asian women. Younger would be better, but hard to come by as I understand it. Would be intrigued to find AMP offering CBJ or BBBJ. Nothing more yet though, still new and don't want to get too far down the rabbit hole so soon.

    TL; DR: $65 door fee / $80 tip was total damage. No indication of FS of any kind. Decent HJ. Decent Massage. Great bubbly personality. 7 out of 10.

    Ekko.

  10. #14800

    Sorry bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by YouCon45  [View Original Post]
    I usually don't defend myself because I don't care what other people think, but I am going to now.

    I made an appointment to see Lauren coms good like always I walk in the door and Hunter throws me out! Because she thinks I am hanglow. Now I really don't care what she thinks but I have been nothing but nice to her. Today is my birthday I got done with work early so I thought I would give myself a present and see Lauren.

    But then I get tossed still can't understand why hunter thinks it but what ever. It is sad that now the providers that work there are not able to see clients that they have a good reputation with because of what hunter thinks.

    And this is to hanglow thanks for F'n up my birthday I really appreciate that!

    I guess that's the end..
    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...-/283735756302

    Hey bro Youcon.

    Is this the Lauren y'all wanted to see for birthday? Hanglow hope it ain't other Lauren that has Adam's apple.

    Hanglow, sorry if y'all got booted because a me. I'm not wanting to cock, block yall. But what make Lauren special to yall? Ain't there other girls to see that as good, or better? If hanglow want to see her how get appointment with her? Youcon a good bro and need see good girls. Not cancel girls. Is hanglow sorry y'all got booted? Yes. I am sorry. I am the walrus.

  11. #14799

    Hanglow no hero

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Nobody was smarter than Tedbear, just ask him!

    HangLow hero, for the few who listened!

    I'll stick with my FaceBook UTRs.
    Stay safe
    Bro,

    Thanks for shout. But all I ben doing is sounding warning. Trying a help y'all. I seen this before in Texas. Now maybe it here. Pray boss lady erase video and records. Maybe white nights still on video and data. They all come at me but now they all silent. Hanglow even try an help boss lady but she no want to hear about police informant she have round her. Now maybe she don't be angry be smart. This worse then I thought. Is hanglow hero? Hell no. I am the walrus.

  12. #14798
    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.

    I posted warnings when a provider was getting driver license from people. Some monger here got all butthurt about it. I and others posted warning that Hunters policy of getting face pics for verification was a bad idea for mongers only to have many here jump to her defence. Now she and bbu may be compromised. How are all you defenders feeling now? Instead of taking warnings for what they are, warnings some of you thought you were safe due to trusting your provider. In the end they will all give you up for a. Lighter sentence given the chance. Pray that offer isn't made.
    I wish all of you well. Even the guys I argue with on the fight thread.
    I hope you all end up unaffected.

    And yes, I never went to that Wayland house either.small town like that it seemed obvious all that traffic would cause complaints and then LE eventually.
    I agree with you 100% we're all here to help each other out. If that's a review good or bad or concerns that we might have with a particularly provider. We should all remember these ladies will give up whatever they need to stay out of jail and that should always be in the back of your mind while enjoying the hobby. As difficult as it may be sometimes we need to think with the Head on our shoulders and not the other. Be safe.

  13. #14797
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4409
    Quote Originally Posted by Monger01  [View Original Post]
    This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.

    I posted warnings when a provider was getting driver license from people. Some monger here got all butthurt about it. I and others posted warning that Hunters policy of getting face pics for verification was a bad idea for mongers only to have many here jump to her defence. Now she and bbu may be compromised. How are all you defenders feeling now? Instead of taking warnings for what they are, warnings some of you thought you were safe due to trusting your provider. In the end they will all give you up for a. Lighter sentence given the chance. Pray that offer isn't made.
    I wish all of you well. Even the guys I argue with on the fight thread.
    I hope you all end up unaffected.

    And yes, I never went to that Wayland house either.small town like that it seemed obvious all that traffic would cause complaints and then LE eventually.
    Nobody was smarter than Tedbear, just ask him!

    HangLow hero, for the few who listened!

    I'll stick with my FaceBook UTRs.
    Stay safe

  14. #14796

    And there ya go

    Quote Originally Posted by LongAwaited493  [View Original Post]
    This is one of the reasons why I never went to this establishment. If this is all true and they've been shut down that means they have the video of all the folks that have come and gone at this establishment. That's got to be a little nerve-racking.
    This is exactly what I and others have posted about countless times yet there's always some fanboy or white knight jumping to defend them.

    I posted warnings when a provider was getting driver license from people. Some monger here got all butthurt about it. I and others posted warning that Hunters policy of getting face pics for verification was a bad idea for mongers only to have many here jump to her defence. Now she and bbu may be compromised. How are all you defenders feeling now? Instead of taking warnings for what they are, warnings some of you thought you were safe due to trusting your provider. In the end they will all give you up for a. Lighter sentence given the chance. Pray that offer isn't made.
    I wish all of you well. Even the guys I argue with on the fight thread.
    I hope you all end up unaffected.

    And yes, I never went to that Wayland house either.small town like that it seemed obvious all that traffic would cause complaints and then LE eventually.

  15. #14795
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4409

    Videos

    Quote Originally Posted by LongAwaited493  [View Original Post]
    This is one of the reasons why I never went to this establishment. If this is all true and they've been shut down that means they have the video of all the folks that have come and gone at this establishment. That's got to be a little nerve-racking.
    The owner of the Wayland house was a creepy guy, had hidden cameras disguised as phone chargers all over the house and linked to his laptop.

    Everyone who went there had videos of them fucking.

    I knew it was trouble before I started getting the warning messages not to go there.

    Who knows what surprises will pop up on the BBU database.

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