Thread: Utr

**Mike Wazowski** · 01-23-08 05:52

Originally Posted by Orl Woodpecker

The lady is working while she's with you on vacation, unless you don't expect any favors from her. She is an independent contractor also. I think the golden rule applies here. As for taking the lady to dinner, how many times have you taken a lady to dinner, movie, drinks, etc and got nothing at the end of the night?

Did you bother to read what I wrote? I, clearly, stated that a provider shouldn't go on a vacation unless it was with a regular that she clicks with.

Like Torlando said, if she can afford the time off, she should do it. If she can't, she should decline.

If I were to decide to take a working girl to Las Vegas, feed her in top tier restaurants for lunch and dinner, take her to the high-dollar "better be on the list" clubs, give her money to gamble with, etc. she damn well better not be expecting another grand a day in cash for going.

If fact, if I had a provider who I was so into that I wanted to do such a dumb-ass thing (take her on vacation with me) I'd be pretty offended if she asked for a fee and she'd be off my list of girls to see pretty fast.

I know some guys like it. TBD and TER types seem to like it so they can boast about how much money they blew. Me, I think the day I pay a provider to go on vacation with me or go out to dinner I'll need to start walking around with my finger and thumb in the shape of an "L" on my forehead.

That's just the way I feel about it. Nothing against the guys who would do it.

I just think it's way too easy to get a "normal" girl to do such things.

Or, if you want a real easy in on getting a young hottie to go on vacation with you, just work the low-mileage/no-extras strip clubs. Find a girl that likes to talk your ear off and just nod a lot. Buy some dances. Don't even come close to "trying anything." Repeat twice-weekly for three weeks. Now she thinks you're a knight in shining armor. Tell her, after much hemming and hawing, that you're going on vacation to (fill in exotic destination - Las Vegas, New York and Miami work best with Key West, Chicago and Los Angeles a distant fourth, fifth and sixth) and you wish you had a sweet girl like her that you could take along for company and "cuddling" at night.

The majority of the time, you'll have your vacation date and you won't have to pay for anything but the vacation and the sex will be more GFE than it is with a provider because she's hoping to hook you on her "sexpertise" and give the current beau the boot and christin you her kids' new "uncle daddy."

**Orl Woodpecker** · 01-23-08 00:25

Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski

And my two cents, I completely disagree with this. I'm an independent contractor. I only get paid when I'm at work. I still take about two weeks of vacation a year. I don't get paid when I'm not working those two weeks. I do, however, make enough that I'm not worried about it. A provider should be in the same boat.

That said, I don't think that a provider should be going on vacation with a guy UNLESS it's someone she's seen many times and has "clicked" with that guy.

I feel for the guy who is desparate enough that he pays a girl's way on vacation AND pays the girl. I feel the same way about guys paying for a girl's time and taking her to dinner.

The lady is working while she's with you on vacation, unless you don't expect any favors from her. She is an independent contractor also. I think the golden rule applies here. As for taking the lady to dinner, how many times have you taken a lady to dinner, movie, drinks, etc and got nothing at the end of the night?

**Phatpistol** · 01-22-08 23:23

Originally Posted by Doctor Don

Has anyone seen this one?

I thought I saw her picture on here before, but not sure where or when.

http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSee...wAd?oid=731579

She has been 18 for almost two years and she is still using the same pictures. She will rush you and she has alot of rules.

**Torlando** · 01-22-08 20:53

I will not kiss a provider, I know where there mouths have been. I also find kissing much more intimate than just bending somebody over or the like. I'll save the kissing and emotional stuff for the Mrs. at home just give me some hot sweaty stuff and take care of me, in other words provide.

**Tinaa** · 01-22-08 20:40

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**Member #3931** · 01-22-08 17:19

Originally Posted by True Critic69

Do you prefer GFE or F/S?

Me personally I prefer GFE......but I see not to many of them here in Orlando, most are F/S that prefer you to Hit it & Run.

Was just curious to see what your guys opinions are.

GFE for me, but its less and less popular these days amoung SW's. Saves me alot of money though. I won't spend alot on a ho that don't GFE.

BC

**VerySlowly** · 01-22-08 15:14

Originally Posted by True Critic69

Do you prefer GFE or F/S?

Me personally I prefer GFE......but I see not to many of them here in Orlando, most are F/S that prefer you to Hit it & Run.

Was just curious to see what your guys opinions

are.

I can't stand the girls that exhibit no romance. You get there their place is a mess. They have on ratty clothes, no makeup and have to hurry because of some lame reason. Then come the rules , don't touch this or that, hurry up my girlfriend coming over with her kids,I'm out of condoms "i'll do you next time" could you give me a ride to-----fill in the blanks, etc.

A quick BJ in a car is one thing,a bargain priced release.
An escort is another, if they are dirty and stinky in all the wrong places ,who needs that?

I like a girl who dresses sexy, her hair is clean and fixed nice, has clean orifices including fresh breath.Attends to her makeup so she appears beautiful. Has a sexy attitude, touches you softly,and gently.
Makes out like your high school girlfriend with tongues flying. I don't care if she's FS or not after a nice warmup she's welcome to finish with a super BBBJCIM and I'll leave a happy man.

It amazes me that girls who charge lots of money don't do these simple things and expect good reviews and repeat customers. I say we point out these skanks and stop patronizing them!!!----VS

**True Critic69** · 01-22-08 13:03

Do you prefer GFE or F/S?

Me personally I prefer GFE......but I see not to many of them here in Orlando, most are F/S that prefer you to Hit it & Run.

Was just curious to see what your guys opinions are.

**Malabar** · 01-22-08 08:50

Originally Posted by Doctor Don

Has anyone seen this one? I thought I saw her picture on here before, but not sure where or when.
http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSee...wAd?oid=731579

No experience but I think I've seen her on CL somewhere. From what I remember the feedback was not too good.

Getting old is for the birds.

Mal

**Torlando** · 01-22-08 04:49

When you are in sales and take a vacation, your income for that time period is nothing. In fact you lose twice, the lack of sales and the cost of the vacation. When I replied to the post I was clear to say that should the provider be in a position to take a trip than she should go for the sake of enjoying hereslf. Because it is an all expense paid vacation, she must reciprocate the person footing the $2000+- bill and that should be the exchange. If she is in need of making money let her not go on this vacation and work CL, or whatever she does for a buck. I mean really, she is going to collect money and have an all expense paid time? Not on my wallet and I lose allot of money per month on this thing, but I have thresholds. Please do not reply agree to disagree, make me see your point. I really want to understand why one would pay twice.

**True Critic69** · 01-22-08 02:27

Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski

And my two cents, I completely disagree with this. I'm an independent contractor. I only get paid when I'm at work. I still take about two weeks of vacation a year. I don't get paid when I'm not working those two weeks. I do, however, make enough that I'm not worried about it. A provider should be in the same boat.

That said, I don't think that a provider should be going on vacation with a guy UNLESS it's someone she's seen many times and has "clicked" with that guy.

I feel for the guy who is desparate enough that he pays a girl's way on vacation AND pays the girl. I feel the same way about guys paying for a girl's time and taking her to dinner.

Remember if its a true provider......there time is what is being paid for....im sure some might take a vacation with a client but few will do it for a free ride....alls Im saying is if I was a provider....no money no honey...

Remember by her going she is leaving her business behind....and how many providers want to go on "vacation" with a client?

I dont get on vacations with my business associates I usually go with friends or family.

I think we need to agree to disagree on this....Im of the mind that a provider should make her money and I know some men like to cut deals...if it works for them great.

**Doctor Don** · 01-22-08 02:23

Has anyone seen this one?

I thought I saw her picture on here before, but not sure where or when.

http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSee...wAd?oid=731579

**Mike Wazowski** · 01-22-08 02:18

Originally Posted by True Critic69

I disagree to an extent.....you have to remember that a provider is doing "business" in other words her bank account needs to grow no matter what. She is not in this to make friends but rather money.

Guys seem to forget that as some providers do too. In other words a free vacation does not make her bank account grow and when she comes back she would still need to see others to make up for the loss TIME she was not paid for.

Just my own 2 cents. But I say charge a minimum per hour for the overnight.

And my two cents, I completely disagree with this. I'm an independent contractor. I only get paid when I'm at work. I still take about two weeks of vacation a year. I don't get paid when I'm not working those two weeks. I do, however, make enough that I'm not worried about it. A provider should be in the same boat.

That said, I don't think that a provider should be going on vacation with a guy UNLESS it's someone she's seen many times and has "clicked" with that guy.

I feel for the guy who is desparate enough that he pays a girl's way on vacation AND pays the girl. I feel the same way about guys paying for a girl's time and taking her to dinner.

**TravelingVoye** · 01-21-08 23:24

I'd take an average of what you'd otherwise be making during the 5 days your of the trip and start the negotiation there. Chances are if the guy is paying your way to Hedo he's probably not too concerned about the money. If he does want to negotiate it down, you can then start factoring in other aspects of the arrangement, etc.

**Orl Woodpecker** · 01-21-08 20:39

The first condition that needs to be met is that you have spent time with the person prior to the overnight; for the vacation, know the person well. A few dates and an overnight. Years ago, I took a lady I didn't know very well on vacation. That was the worst vacation I have ever taken.

As for compensation for the overnight, I think you should receive maybe 80% of what you make in an average night. You should discount it some because you don't have to prepare for different dates and you don't have the anxiety of meeting people you don't know. For the vacation, you should receive some compensation in addition to all expenses. I would say somewhere around a grand for 5-7 days.

In either case, one of your friends should know where you are and who you're with. If you're going on vacation, you should see the guy's passport prior to leaving. I am tired of hearing of the young ladies who have been murdered recently. They weren't necessarily escorts but it does show the lack of respect for life that some guys have.

That's just my opinion, agree or disagree. Just try to be SAFE!