Thread: Utr

**Torlando** · 01-22-08 20:53

I will not kiss a provider, I know where there mouths have been. I also find kissing much more intimate than just bending somebody over or the like. I'll save the kissing and emotional stuff for the Mrs. at home just give me some hot sweaty stuff and take care of me, in other words provide.

**Tinaa** · 01-22-08 20:40

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**Member #3931** · 01-22-08 17:19

Originally Posted by True Critic69

Do you prefer GFE or F/S?

Me personally I prefer GFE......but I see not to many of them here in Orlando, most are F/S that prefer you to Hit it & Run.

Was just curious to see what your guys opinions are.

GFE for me, but its less and less popular these days amoung SW's. Saves me alot of money though. I won't spend alot on a ho that don't GFE.

BC

**VerySlowly** · 01-22-08 15:14

Originally Posted by True Critic69

Do you prefer GFE or F/S?

Me personally I prefer GFE......but I see not to many of them here in Orlando, most are F/S that prefer you to Hit it & Run.

Was just curious to see what your guys opinions

are.

I can't stand the girls that exhibit no romance. You get there their place is a mess. They have on ratty clothes, no makeup and have to hurry because of some lame reason. Then come the rules , don't touch this or that, hurry up my girlfriend coming over with her kids,I'm out of condoms "i'll do you next time" could you give me a ride to-----fill in the blanks, etc.

A quick BJ in a car is one thing,a bargain priced release.
An escort is another, if they are dirty and stinky in all the wrong places ,who needs that?

I like a girl who dresses sexy, her hair is clean and fixed nice, has clean orifices including fresh breath.Attends to her makeup so she appears beautiful. Has a sexy attitude, touches you softly,and gently.
Makes out like your high school girlfriend with tongues flying. I don't care if she's FS or not after a nice warmup she's welcome to finish with a super BBBJCIM and I'll leave a happy man.

It amazes me that girls who charge lots of money don't do these simple things and expect good reviews and repeat customers. I say we point out these skanks and stop patronizing them!!!----VS

**True Critic69** · 01-22-08 13:03

Do you prefer GFE or F/S?

Me personally I prefer GFE......but I see not to many of them here in Orlando, most are F/S that prefer you to Hit it & Run.

Was just curious to see what your guys opinions are.

**Malabar** · 01-22-08 08:50

Originally Posted by Doctor Don

Has anyone seen this one? I thought I saw her picture on here before, but not sure where or when.
http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSee...wAd?oid=731579

No experience but I think I've seen her on CL somewhere. From what I remember the feedback was not too good.

Getting old is for the birds.

Mal

**Torlando** · 01-22-08 04:49

When you are in sales and take a vacation, your income for that time period is nothing. In fact you lose twice, the lack of sales and the cost of the vacation. When I replied to the post I was clear to say that should the provider be in a position to take a trip than she should go for the sake of enjoying hereslf. Because it is an all expense paid vacation, she must reciprocate the person footing the $2000+- bill and that should be the exchange. If she is in need of making money let her not go on this vacation and work CL, or whatever she does for a buck. I mean really, she is going to collect money and have an all expense paid time? Not on my wallet and I lose allot of money per month on this thing, but I have thresholds. Please do not reply agree to disagree, make me see your point. I really want to understand why one would pay twice.

**True Critic69** · 01-22-08 02:27

Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski

And my two cents, I completely disagree with this. I'm an independent contractor. I only get paid when I'm at work. I still take about two weeks of vacation a year. I don't get paid when I'm not working those two weeks. I do, however, make enough that I'm not worried about it. A provider should be in the same boat.

That said, I don't think that a provider should be going on vacation with a guy UNLESS it's someone she's seen many times and has "clicked" with that guy.

I feel for the guy who is desparate enough that he pays a girl's way on vacation AND pays the girl. I feel the same way about guys paying for a girl's time and taking her to dinner.

Remember if its a true provider......there time is what is being paid for....im sure some might take a vacation with a client but few will do it for a free ride....alls Im saying is if I was a provider....no money no honey...

Remember by her going she is leaving her business behind....and how many providers want to go on "vacation" with a client?

I dont get on vacations with my business associates I usually go with friends or family.

I think we need to agree to disagree on this....Im of the mind that a provider should make her money and I know some men like to cut deals...if it works for them great.

**Doctor Don** · 01-22-08 02:23

Has anyone seen this one?

I thought I saw her picture on here before, but not sure where or when.

http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSee...wAd?oid=731579

**Mike Wazowski** · 01-22-08 02:18

Originally Posted by True Critic69

I disagree to an extent.....you have to remember that a provider is doing "business" in other words her bank account needs to grow no matter what. She is not in this to make friends but rather money.

Guys seem to forget that as some providers do too. In other words a free vacation does not make her bank account grow and when she comes back she would still need to see others to make up for the loss TIME she was not paid for.

Just my own 2 cents. But I say charge a minimum per hour for the overnight.

And my two cents, I completely disagree with this. I'm an independent contractor. I only get paid when I'm at work. I still take about two weeks of vacation a year. I don't get paid when I'm not working those two weeks. I do, however, make enough that I'm not worried about it. A provider should be in the same boat.

That said, I don't think that a provider should be going on vacation with a guy UNLESS it's someone she's seen many times and has "clicked" with that guy.

I feel for the guy who is desparate enough that he pays a girl's way on vacation AND pays the girl. I feel the same way about guys paying for a girl's time and taking her to dinner.

**TravelingVoye** · 01-21-08 23:24

I'd take an average of what you'd otherwise be making during the 5 days your of the trip and start the negotiation there. Chances are if the guy is paying your way to Hedo he's probably not too concerned about the money. If he does want to negotiate it down, you can then start factoring in other aspects of the arrangement, etc.

**Orl Woodpecker** · 01-21-08 20:39

The first condition that needs to be met is that you have spent time with the person prior to the overnight; for the vacation, know the person well. A few dates and an overnight. Years ago, I took a lady I didn't know very well on vacation. That was the worst vacation I have ever taken.

As for compensation for the overnight, I think you should receive maybe 80% of what you make in an average night. You should discount it some because you don't have to prepare for different dates and you don't have the anxiety of meeting people you don't know. For the vacation, you should receive some compensation in addition to all expenses. I would say somewhere around a grand for 5-7 days.

In either case, one of your friends should know where you are and who you're with. If you're going on vacation, you should see the guy's passport prior to leaving. I am tired of hearing of the young ladies who have been murdered recently. They weren't necessarily escorts but it does show the lack of respect for life that some guys have.

That's just my opinion, agree or disagree. Just try to be SAFE!

**True Critic69** · 01-21-08 18:59

Originally Posted by Torlando

For starters, a hobbyist paying for an overnight stay depends on many factors but let's just sum it up to just 2, who is the provider and what is NOT on the menu. Just to answer the question, let's assume looks wise the provider is a regular poster on CL with her rates being $.5 for half and $$ for whole, a 6 out of 10 in the looks department, and the menu includes everything except greek. From the girls I have spoken to, most don't like to be treated like a ticket booth and keep their visits on average to 3 a day. With that being said, If I was a provider I would look at an overnight as a huge benefit assuming you get along with your new friend. You don't have to worry about screening for or being caught by LE multiple times in one day, you don't have to doll yourself up multiple times in 1 day, chances are he's buying dinner and drinks that night, and if it's an overnight it's most likely an outcall you're doing so you can save on the incall costs. To answer your question, I would say 5-6 assuming all of the above are in effect.

Now as for going to Jamaica on somebody else's wallet, that should be payment enough. You are getting a free vacation out of it. It should not matter if the hobbyist has to pay for 2 anyway or if he won the trip in a sweepstakes. You are getting an all expense paid vacation, stop being greedy. If you are asked to provide while on this vacation, think of the three meals a day, the airfare, and all the accommodations as payment. These vacations have a street value of about $1750 per person not including airfare. If you are in a position to take a vacation that should be all there is to consider. If the guy becomes a jerk, tell him in advance you have reserved a room somewhere else and you are not afraid to leave him and go to your own room. Before you leave, ensure you tell somebody you trust about the situation including the guys real name, cell phone, and plate number. Safety first!

I disagree to an extent.....you have to remember that a provider is doing "business" in other words her bank account needs to grow no matter what. She is not in this to make friends but rather money.

Guys seem to forget that as some providers do too. In other words a free vacation does not make her bank account grow and when she comes back she would still need to see others to make up for the loss TIME she was not paid for.

Just my own 2 cents. But I say charge a minimum per hour for the overnight.

**Jethrow1** · 01-21-08 07:55

How much on average would you make in the same period here. No need to advertise or risk x number of new meetings, etc. Look at it that way. I would want one meeting to see if every one is compitable.

**Torlando** · 01-21-08 05:39

For starters, a hobbyist paying for an overnight stay depends on many factors but let's just sum it up to just 2, who is the provider and what is NOT on the menu. Just to answer the question, let's assume looks wise the provider is a regular poster on CL with her rates being $.5 for half and $$ for whole, a 6 out of 10 in the looks department, and the menu includes everything except greek. From the girls I have spoken to, most don't like to be treated like a ticket booth and keep their visits on average to 3 a day. With that being said, If I was a provider I would look at an overnight as a huge benefit assuming you get along with your new friend. You don't have to worry about screening for or being caught by LE multiple times in one day, you don't have to doll yourself up multiple times in 1 day, chances are he's buying dinner and drinks that night, and if it's an overnight it's most likely an outcall you're doing so you can save on the incall costs. To answer your question, I would say 5-6 assuming all of the above are in effect.

Now as for going to Jamaica on somebody else's wallet, that should be payment enough. You are getting a free vacation out of it. It should not matter if the hobbyist has to pay for 2 anyway or if he won the trip in a sweepstakes. You are getting an all expense paid vacation, stop being greedy. If you are asked to provide while on this vacation, think of the three meals a day, the airfare, and all the accommodations as payment. These vacations have a street value of about $1750 per person not including airfare. If you are in a position to take a vacation that should be all there is to consider. If the guy becomes a jerk, tell him in advance you have reserved a room somewhere else and you are not afraid to leave him and go to your own room. Before you leave, ensure you tell somebody you trust about the situation including the guys real name, cell phone, and plate number. Safety first!

Originally Posted by Loves Blues

Hi there.

This is a question for both providers and hobbists.

I wanted to know what you consider a reasonable rate for an overnight visit?

I have been hesitant to do this in the past frankly because I snore (giggle). But I have had recent requests and I am conflicted on what to charge.

Also, if someone wanted to take you to a resort such as Hedonism for a few days, A) that is pretty risky as it is outside the USA.. and B) if there is a personality clash you are basically stuck with each other for the duration.

What would you consider a reasonable rate for this? Say a 5 day 4 night trip all inclusive including air, to a resort on an island. While the guy is footing the bill, customarily he would pay the double rate even if traveling solo to most of these resorts so the cost of the trip is not as big a factor in calculating rate. However, many providers would not have that opportunity without a benefactor... So these two questions I would like answers to. I am speaking of providing time and companionship.

Look forward to all thoughtfull replies, here or in PM.

Lee