Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[Seeking Sex]

It's pretty hilarious that people believe these obvious fantasies about dating the women from AMPs.

These girls / women don't date. They have husbands and children. So yup too funny!

I am sure some of the AMP women I have gone out with have husbands and children because they have told me so. That does not mean they don't enjoy going out with a man who showers them with attention and treats them well. Including a nice dinner.

In civvy life, women with husbands and children sometimes date other men. As in having affairs / flings.

I am not sure why it is funny when an AMP woman who is married goes out with another man.

[PeterGuzinya]

If you had such a great relationship with these girls at YZ, why didn't they tell you where they went, while some mongers know exactly where they are. Just let them be and stop tracking them down, the same way you did with Wendy SH and a few others. God damn it's easy to spot you, Mountbaldy, no matter how many times you change monikers.

What are you talking about? MountBaldy? Someone on this thread said kevin80 is spicycurry. Not sure about that but I'll ignore you.

But I would like to hear if anyone knows about the YZ girls. I hear Grace opened a shop and that Nancy and Cindy did too. Maybe your pal MountBaldy can let us know if he's as close to them as you say. They covered the peepholes. Still a solid massage from tiny Amy but no play time. Cici at 1 by 1 is fun but closing in on 50. Eclat on Harbor has some expensive 40 year old Viets. Nice HJ but pricey. Wanted 80 for a jack with touching. The stocky one (sorry can't remember her name) settled for 50 if I'd keep my hand to herself. Took ten minutes. She should have let me touch.

[Sexaholic777]

It's pretty hilarious that people believe these obvious fantasies about dating the women from AMPs.

These girls / women don't date. They have husbands and children. So yup too funny!

[Kevin80]

I think most of the guys said, "Who's Felix Unger. " I'd say Tony Randall but that won't help. How about a separate thread for AMP Bathrooms.

On a separate topic, has anyone tracked down the YZ girls that left? Bella, Cindy, Nancy, Grace or Coco? Now that was a nice bathroom.

If you had such a great relationship with these girls at YZ, why didn't they tell you where they went, while some mongers know exactly where they are. Just let them be and stop tracking them down, the same way you did with Wendy SH and a few others. God damn it's easy to spot you, Mountbaldy, no matter how many times you change monikers.

[DarkRoomDaddy]

From my experience, Chinese women from mainland China are the most frugal. One of the mp girls that I took out for dinner at Denny's was the first time she ever went to a non-Chinese restaurant in her five years in the USA! Also, she visited restaurants maybe once a year. She was very hesitant to "date" her clients and it took me a long time wooing her.

On the contrary, I have dated a Japanese woman who worked at a mp a few years ago. Taking her out was really feeling like going out on a date with a civvy. And I spent money the same way it would be for taking any other civvy girl out. She was used to the finer things in life and spent a good bit of her income on those. She was not as bad as the Viet chick described below but she was like a normal young lady who loved to live life.

I went out with a Chinese woman and came to her home to pick her up. She asked if I wanted a snack, and I think I said no, but she proceeded to give me some cheap cookie that was being stored in a container that been a dog food container. Repurposed I hope. She did not serve it on a plate or a napkin. She had some of that junk mail for super market clip ads, and she served the cookie on that junk mail. The house itself in San Gabriel, had been illegally modified so that the living room was used as a bedroom with each room rented out to a different lady. I helped her buy something, and she wasted an hour of my time to get a $20 discount to the point I offered to just give her the fucking $20 rather than listen to anymore of this bullshit. Later her mail in her room fell on the floor, and I saw a bank statement that she had $90,000 in the bank.

[DarkRoomDaddy]

From my experience, Chinese women from mainland China are the most frugal. One of the mp girls that I took out for dinner at Denny's was the first time she ever went to a non-Chinese restaurant in her five years in the USA! Also, she visited restaurants maybe once a year. She was very hesitant to "date" her clients and it took me a long time wooing her.

On the contrary, I have dated a Japanese woman who worked at a mp a few years ago. Taking her out was really feeling like going out on a date with a civvy. And I spent money the same way it would be for taking any other civvy girl out. She was used to the finer things in life and spent a good bit of her income on those. She was not as bad as the Viet chick described below but she was like a normal young lady who loved to live life.

There was a Japanese documentary I saw some years ago. It was following Japanese hookers. And the funny thing was that after work, they would go to these cute-boy bars and then spend money on these guys, the same way that rich businessmen spent money on the girls. Ordering $1000 bottle of champagne and all this stuff. The guys were like k-pop idol boys. Longish stylish hair, nice clothes, and a bit effeminate.

I can't remember the name of now though. I did go out with a waitress though. And she would insist on giving crazy big tips to the waitress that served us. Because she knew what it was like to do the job. But my millionaire friends are the cheapest bastards you will find.

[Seeking Sex]

That's been my experience as well. I've heard, but no personal experience, that Korean women are even better at this (or worse, I guess, if you're married to one and want to spend a little extra money from time to time).

Lift Her Up.

From my experience, Chinese women from mainland China are the most frugal. One of the mp girls that I took out for dinner at Denny's was the first time she ever went to a non-Chinese restaurant in her five years in the USA! Also, she visited restaurants maybe once a year. She was very hesitant to "date" her clients and it took me a long time wooing her.

On the contrary, I have dated a Japanese woman who worked at a mp a few years ago. Taking her out was really feeling like going out on a date with a civvy. And I spent money the same way it would be for taking any other civvy girl out. She was used to the finer things in life and spent a good bit of her income on those. She was not as bad as the Viet chick described below but she was like a normal young lady who loved to live life.

[DJezDick]

That's been my experience as well. I've heard, but no personal experience, that Korean women are even better at this (or worse, I guess, if you're married to one and want to spend a little extra money from time to time).

Lift Her Up.

She is Vietnamese.

[Lift Her Up]

She is obviously not Chinese. Every Chinese woman. Educated or not. Knows how to accumulate money and not waste a penny. They may not invest in stocks and bonds but they can give some lessons in frugalness and self-discipline /.

That's been my experience as well. I've heard, but no personal experience, that Korean women are even better at this (or worse, I guess, if you're married to one and want to spend a little extra money from time to time).

Lift Her Up.

[DarkRoomDaddy]

A couple years ago I met a girl and one of the local spas. I started seeing her at her private residence. She drives a nice car and has a 2 bedroom apartment, she lives by herself.

1 bedroom is dedicated to shoes, expensive handbags, cloths, perfume and a whole lot of other crap. I am sure gets some gifts but most of the crap is purchased by her.

She has a steady cash flow but I am pretty sure her portfolio = $ 0.00.

She is obviously not Chinese. Every Chinese woman. Educated or not. Knows how to accumulate money and not waste a penny. They may not invest in stocks and bonds but they can give some lessons in frugalness and self-discipline /.

[DJezDick]

Suppose a girl is working one of the yank-factories like SH and is doing 5-12 a day at base rate of $60. Lets say 7 * 60 = 420 conservatively. Then work 6 days, that's $2500 a week. That's about $125 k isn't it? Just pulling peter and never popping a bra or pulling down a panty. Living expenses are well under 1 k a month, so they are netting 110 k. In the real world, that's like making 160 k. That's maybe executive or engineering pay. But these are unskilled and uneducated. So not a bad gig. 5 years is over half a million cold hard bucks. Just 10 years and they are a millionaire. If you are inclined toward charity, there are some homeless guys in front of every shopping mall in Westminster. Some guy seems to live next to Air Body.

A couple years ago I met a girl and one of the local spas. I started seeing her at her private residence. She drives a nice car and has a 2 bedroom apartment, she lives by herself.

1 bedroom is dedicated to shoes, expensive handbags, cloths, perfume and a whole lot of other crap. I am sure gets some gifts but most of the crap is purchased by her.

She has a steady cash flow but I am pretty sure her portfolio = $ 0.00.

[DarkRoomDaddy]

I definitely agree that the girls who give extras especially regular sessions of FS are pulling down the big bucks. Take that amount then subtract their barebones living conditions and that equals huge bank accounts, mostly unreported earnings. Some of them live in trailer courts. Splitting the rent with 3 to 5 other girls in the same biz or restaurant workers (same hours but not as profitable). There are also guest houses where 10 or 12 people may rent space in a 3 bedroom house. Living spaces are divided up with sheets throughout the house. Others are living with their coworkers at the boss's house. Living conditions might be slightly better than guest houses. I remember the old female boss at FC had the girls living in uninsulated sheds with concrete floors in the backyard. Just before selling the biz, she had the girls receiving customers in those sheds. All of this means cheap rent for as little as $400 a month. Transportation is by Chinese Uber or the boss who collects them at their hones to go to work. Some may need to send money to China but others are stuffing their bank accounts.

They work really hard for their money and live like paupers in overcrowded conditions but HJ / BJ / FS girls make a damn good living. If you ever get the chance to have one of them take you out to eat at a restaurant, check out the bankroll they pull out of their purse to pay for the meal. One thing about restaurant workers, tho. Many of them work the same hours as massage providers but their tips are shit. You might treat them well.

Suppose a girl is working one of the yank-factories like SH and is doing 5-12 a day at base rate of $60. Lets say 7 * 60 = 420 conservatively. Then work 6 days, that's $2500 a week. That's about $125 k isn't it? Just pulling peter and never popping a bra or pulling down a panty. Living expenses are well under 1 k a month, so they are netting 110 k. In the real world, that's like making 160 k. That's maybe executive or engineering pay. But these are unskilled and uneducated. So not a bad gig. 5 years is over half a million cold hard bucks. Just 10 years and they are a millionaire. If you are inclined toward charity, there are some homeless guys in front of every shopping mall in Westminster. Some guy seems to live next to Air Body.

[Caribe]

I am not sure that is true. These girls make more than most of us. They are pulling $300-700 a day, 6-7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. And its all tax free under-the-table income, and their expenses are minimal. Most of them don't own cars, don't pay for gas or insurance, etc. So they are probably socking away $100 k-200 k a year. For a normal dude who pays taxes, mortgage, and has a car. How easy is it to put away even $10 k a year in your savings account? So don't think you are helping out a poor girl get a bite to eat.

But I do indeed give good tips without hestitation to any girl who gives me an enjoyable time. Which means half-way decent massage, a romantic pull, and a little bit of nice personality. (If I get the half-ass massage, day-at-the-factory pull, and cold personality. Then that's my last session with her ever). Just taking a so-called 'normal' girl out to dinner and movie will probably set you back $60-120 these days, and all you get a handshake goodnight. So this is a bargain. It might take 5-10 such expensive dates to get FS. And the FS is not necessarily any more enthusiastic or genuine.

From her point of view, she is in a foreign country away from her friends and family and husband and kids. She worked in a dark sex dungeon and rarely sees the sunlight. Most of these girls have fucked up backs and need massage more than we do. And they have no retirement plan. And they might be supporting a kid or husband back home. So they are sacrificing their own happiness in a way, that would make us want to jump off a cliff if we had their life.

In the last 20 sessions I have had, about 1/3 are shit, 1/3 are ok, and 1/3 are above the call of duty. I never low ball or haggle. I pay them. But I only return to the top 1/3 and I might drop 80-100 for a session with a girl that makes me feel the way I felt when was 20 years old in the backseat at the drive-in movie. It makes my week.

I definitely agree that the girls who give extras especially regular sessions of FS are pulling down the big bucks. Take that amount then subtract their barebones living conditions and that equals huge bank accounts, mostly unreported earnings. Some of them live in trailer courts. Splitting the rent with 3 to 5 other girls in the same biz or restaurant workers (same hours but not as profitable). There are also guest houses where 10 or 12 people may rent space in a 3 bedroom house. Living spaces are divided up with sheets throughout the house. Others are living with their coworkers at the boss's house. Living conditions might be slightly better than guest houses. I remember the old female boss at FC had the girls living in uninsulated sheds with concrete floors in the backyard. Just before selling the biz, she had the girls receiving customers in those sheds. All of this means cheap rent for as little as $400 a month. Transportation is by Chinese Uber or the boss who collects them at their hones to go to work. Some may need to send money to China but others are stuffing their bank accounts.

They work really hard for their money and live like paupers in overcrowded conditions but HJ / BJ / FS girls make a damn good living. If you ever get the chance to have one of them take you out to eat at a restaurant, check out the bankroll they pull out of their purse to pay for the meal. One thing about restaurant workers, tho. Many of them work the same hours as massage providers but their tips are shit. You might treat them well.

[DarkRoomDaddy]

And I'm 100% with Nice Guy 99 in his post #30101 in the OC MP thread, where he points out that 20 means a lot more to the girl than it does to me. Same thing goes for when I grab a meal by myself at Denny's. All it takes is an extra buck or two to convert a 15% tip into a 30% tip. Imagine how much pleasure is being spread in the world at the cost of a couple of crinkled dollar bills.

I am not sure that is true. These girls make more than most of us. They are pulling $300-700 a day, 6-7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. And its all tax free under-the-table income, and their expenses are minimal. Most of them don't own cars, don't pay for gas or insurance, etc. So they are probably socking away $100 k-200 k a year. For a normal dude who pays taxes, mortgage, and has a car. How easy is it to put away even $10 k a year in your savings account? So don't think you are helping out a poor girl get a bite to eat.

But I do indeed give good tips without hestitation to any girl who gives me an enjoyable time. Which means half-way decent massage, a romantic pull, and a little bit of nice personality. (If I get the half-ass massage, day-at-the-factory pull, and cold personality. Then that's my last session with her ever). Just taking a so-called 'normal' girl out to dinner and movie will probably set you back $60-120 these days, and all you get a handshake goodnight. So this is a bargain. It might take 5-10 such expensive dates to get FS. And the FS is not necessarily any more enthusiastic or genuine.

From her point of view, she is in a foreign country away from her friends and family and husband and kids. She worked in a dark sex dungeon and rarely sees the sunlight. Most of these girls have fucked up backs and need massage more than we do. And they have no retirement plan. And they might be supporting a kid or husband back home. So they are sacrificing their own happiness in a way, that would make us want to jump off a cliff if we had their life.

In the last 20 sessions I have had, about 1/3 are shit, 1/3 are ok, and 1/3 are above the call of duty. I never low ball or haggle. I pay them. But I only return to the top 1/3 and I might drop 80-100 for a session with a girl that makes me feel the way I felt when was 20 years old in the backseat at the drive-in movie. It makes my week.

[Lift Her Up]

Recent posts about requested donation rates jolting up faster than my equipment did in my 20's led me to make some comparisons with the overall inflation rate. I'll restrict myself to just out-the-door costs for CFS, whether at an MP or apartment MP.

The first time I was offered FS was at an MP in the SFV in 1975, . 15 house and. 40 tip, so. 55 otd, didn't do it though. In 1985 in Santa Monica, when I did start going for CFS, otd was. 70. I took a long break from 1989 to 2008, and then in 2008 in the SGV at AAMP's it was $ to $. 3, so I'd say an average of $. 15. Now in 2022 it averages I'd say $. 6 in the SGV. Damn that autocorrect on this otherwise excellent site, always inserting a space after a period whether it's appropriate or not.

From '75 to '85, this is a 2. 4%/ yr increase, while the CPI went up 7. 2%/ yr. The big difference here was on the supply side. In '75 the women were almost all white, by '85 the Asians had taken over. From '85 to '08, the CFS increase was 2. 2%/ yr while the CPI went up 3. 1%/ yr. From '08 to '22, it's 2. 4%/ yr for CFS, 2. 2%/ yr for the CPI.

Overall from '85 at the advent of the Asians through '22, it's a 2. 3%/ yr for CFS, 2. 7% for the CPI. So as much as I dislike the increases and have had to cut back my frequency a little bit, it seems like the donation levels really haven't kept up with inflation. The door fees have really lagged: From '75 to '22, they've gone up 2. 6%/ yr compared to 3. 7% for the CPI.

And has been pointed out off and on, the fees out here are less than in other parts of the country. As someone in one of the SGV threads wrote once, "We are awash in pussy. ".

And for myself in the rooms, I guess I'm like most of you. Occasionally I balk at severe overcharging or upselling, and politely leave, but I'm guilty too of letting my needy needy hormones take over sometimes. And I'm 100% with Nice Guy 99 in his post #30101 in the OC MP thread, where he points out that 20 means a lot more to the girl than it does to me. Same thing goes for when I grab a meal by myself at Denny's. All it takes is an extra buck or two to convert a 15% tip into a 30% tip. Imagine how much pleasure is being spread in the world at the cost of a couple of crinkled dollar bills.

'Nuff ranting and stupid s* from me tonight.

Lift Her Up.