MSP Sugar

**Member #6100** · 07-27-22 10:48

Originally Posted by Ryan33 [View Original Post]

I have seen one woman 60+ times, so my numbers are probably skewed somewhat LOL. But if I see someone only 1 or 2 times, it probably means something didn't go well. It could mean a variety of things such as the sex was not great or they wanted more money than I thought was reasonable. It could also be as simple as our schedules just don't match up or I meet someone I like better.

Assuming things go well the first couple meeting, it is usually around the 3rd or maybe 4th that I decide if might be something longer term. By then you should have gotten to know them somewhat and if they are someone you like spending time with.

Also, the sex should get better the each time you see them for at least the first 3 or 4 times as you learn about what gets them off in bed and their best skills. Even if the sex was great the first time, my feeling is that if you only see them them 1 or 2 times you probably won't know what they are really capable of in bed.

Wow 60 times ha ha. How often do you meet with your sugar babies? I can only meet about twice a month. Do you seek out any particular age, ethnicity, body type etc? Wisetraveler seems to have good results with the thicker ladies.

Are you able to host? I am not able. How often can your sugar babies host? One thing you did not mention was that you stop meeting because the sugar baby ghosts you. Or you have texted a sugar baby for a few weeks but not met yet, and then she ghosts you. Most of my arrangements have ended because my sugar baby was having some mental health issues and was not stable or consistent.

**WiseTraveler** · 07-24-22 14:41

Originally Posted by BBQ21 [View Original Post]

I actually did end up meeting a lady in her 50's that was on SB. I got her down to 200 and we met at a hotel. She seemed emotionally unstable and sure enough she ghosted me. Which is fine. The rest of my credits were used to contact about 12 hot-looking ladies and I got two brief replies and then nothing.

I feel like the average age of the ladies on Seeking has increased a fair amount. On the other hand, most of the ladies on SB are under 25.

Why do you think the number of legit profiles has declined on SA?

With the SB site, it's partly luck but also having a good memory for seeing a profile you've seen on seeking before. Generally, if a Secret Benefits SB has a seeking profile, they'll be higher priced and may not even respond to messages on SB.com. It also depends on your type. If you are messaging college age / under 30, fit, well dressed types, you know the ones who always have a pic of themself on a yacht, somewhere in Europe, or on a sports car, they generally end up seeking and want more PPM or a full arrangement.

Seeking has fewer legit profiles as the job market is overall pretty good and the target audience has learned more about the realities of sugaring: Old pervs, younger guys trying to date free / cheap, splenda daddies, scammers, time wasters, and *gasp* that there aren't hundreds of local lonely men who will throw money, trips, and shopping sprees at them for cute selfies, dinner, and the ubiquitous "deep conversations" combined with only hearing success stories from only their hottest friends. It's like Crypto. It was great while it lasted but now the downsides are far clearer and not worth the risk for most people.

That said, inflation has increased the number of active profiles on SB.com. I'm getting 2-5 unsolicited messages per week and I haven't logged in for over a month. There are more unique profiles that aren't just toe dippers 'seeing what's out there'.

After reading thousands of profiles, I've developed a pretty good sense of who is likely to be active and in my $ range. I avoid sparse profiles that just say 'weekly dinners and travel' or long dear diary entries where they pour their hearts and dreams into every paragraph. Neither are realistic.

Re: Avg # of meets is hard to say but the most typical outcomes are either 1-2, 5-6, or 15-20. 1-2 is because we don't click or they're not reliable (ask for advances, bring drama, etc.). 5-6 if they seem to get bored or complacent or I lose interest. It happens. They might also move or find a new boyfriend. The few who got to 15-20 was because they could host close by and loved sex and often didn't even want $.

**Ryan33** · 07-24-22 09:49

Originally Posted by BBQ21 [View Original Post]

Curious what your average number of dates is with a new SB.

For me I would say 1 or 2.

I have seen one woman 60+ times, so my numbers are probably skewed somewhat LOL. But if I see someone only 1 or 2 times, it probably means something didn't go well. It could mean a variety of things such as the sex was not great or they wanted more money than I thought was reasonable. It could also be as simple as our schedules just don't match up or I meet someone I like better.

Assuming things go well the first couple meeting, it is usually around the 3rd or maybe 4th that I decide if might be something longer term. By then you should have gotten to know them somewhat and if they are someone you like spending time with.

Also, the sex should get better the each time you see them for at least the first 3 or 4 times as you learn about what gets them off in bed and their best skills. Even if the sex was great the first time, my feeling is that if you only see them them 1 or 2 times you probably won't know what they are really capable of in bed.

**Member #6100** · 07-23-22 14:57

Originally Posted by WiseTraveler [View Original Post]

I've had better success on SB than SA in terms of $300 or less but I'm getting to upper 50's and care more about the face and experience than a perfect figure. I prefer chubby or even thick so I get far less competition. 100% agree on the verification videos though. I see some with sexy pics, some clearly professional and then they have a video of them with a fucking haircap on, or what looks like a meth den in the background. It's so common it should be a meme.

WYP was interesting but a bust. In most cases, you can find their profiles on SB or Seeking so there's no point in paying at least $50 and usually a $100 or more to just meet. If you have disposable income and some game, I've heard of some who've gotten laid for just dinner / drinks and no extra beyond the $150-200 initial meet but it's more likely you'll just have an awkward meal and get a hug at best.

Seeking is good every few months to set up a new pipeline, especially if I'm traveling but the potentials in Minnesota have really declined. Even more scammers, ones who change their location every few days, or like others have mentioned, suddenly need gas money (what a crock of shit) to meet. I just reply I don't send $ in advance ever and don't do arrangements with anyone so desperate as it never works out.

I actually did end up meeting a lady in her 50's that was on SB. I got her down to 200 and we met at a hotel. She seemed emotionally unstable and sure enough she ghosted me. Which is fine. The rest of my credits were used to contact about 12 hot-looking ladies and I got two brief replies and then nothing.

I feel like the average age of the ladies on Seeking has increased a fair amount. On the other hand, most of the ladies on SB are under 25.

Why do you think the number of legit profiles has declined on SA?

**WiseTraveler** · 07-23-22 12:39

Originally Posted by BBQ21 [View Original Post]

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I am banned from SA. I know how to get back on but it takes some work. So in a moment of weakness, I paid $90 for credits on Secret Benefits. It's a blast watching the verification videos and comparing what you see in the video with the edited pictures. Also some of them look decent but after hearing two words come out of their mouth you want to run LOL. Anyway, I used the credit to contact about 15 girls. I think I got replies from maybe three of them. And it didn't go anywhere.

I did some browsing as an upaid member on What Is Your Price. Seems like at any point in time there are only about 10 recently visited profiles. Does anyone have success on this site?

Have a good 4th!

I've had better success on SB than SA in terms of $300 or less but I'm getting to upper 50's and care more about the face and experience than a perfect figure. I prefer chubby or even thick so I get far less competition. 100% agree on the verification videos though. I see some with sexy pics, some clearly professional and then they have a video of them with a fucking haircap on, or what looks like a meth den in the background. It's so common it should be a meme.

WYP was interesting but a bust. In most cases, you can find their profiles on SB or Seeking so there's no point in paying at least $50 and usually a $100 or more to just meet. If you have disposable income and some game, I've heard of some who've gotten laid for just dinner / drinks and no extra beyond the $150-200 initial meet but it's more likely you'll just have an awkward meal and get a hug at best.

Seeking is good every few months to set up a new pipeline, especially if I'm traveling but the potentials in Minnesota have really declined. Even more scammers, ones who change their location every few days, or like others have mentioned, suddenly need gas money (what a crock of shit) to meet. I just reply I don't send $ in advance ever and don't do arrangements with anyone so desperate as it never works out.

**Member #6100** · 07-22-22 18:20

Curious what your average number of dates is with a new SB.

For me I would say 1 or 2.

**Nino Pacino** · 07-21-22 17:22

Originally Posted by BBQ21 [View Original Post]

Did you meet with her? Report?

I think these profiles are the same person. Who can report? Others have reported she's legit but what is she like? She seems to be marketing pretty hard.

**Mm2219** · 07-17-22 23:35

Scammer.

Chatted with her on the site and moved to text after a bit.

Needed to reschedule the first meet. Met for coffee near her place. She was wearing a top with her tits popping out and her nipples on full display (they were quite the site). Conversation was totally boring.

Offered to go to her place or a hotel. She said she wanted first meet to be platonic and she needed to be up early for her job (delivery driver).

Texted next day asking why no PPM for platonic meet.

Good luck to someone else. https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-661edd49d7e9.

**Member #6100** · 07-17-22 18:04

Originally Posted by Ryan33 [View Original Post]

Search this forum for armybrat.

Did you meet with her? Report?

**Happtrav** · 07-17-22 15:33

WiseGirlie wants 600 for a first meeting. 300 as a deposit.

628 area code.

**Weirdo** · 07-13-22 11:01

I received contact info from Bblover1 for a young woman on SA.

She is no longer interested in meeting more men. Sigh. Those are the breaks.

I attempted to message Bb directly but either he isn't receiving messages anymore or the box is full.

Sidebar. Thanks Bblover1 for her contact info. She sounds great and intelligent but no longer on the market.

Weirdo.

**Happtrav** · 07-12-22 05:37

Any girl who asks for 300+ for a first meet is a Professional, money grab / money hound. Here are a few:

CutieJ: Has a 914 area code. Gives a BS story about how she is in Minnesota due to a death in family. Demands 300. Gets bitchy when offered less than 300.

PrettyGirl: 507 area code. Claims to be from Mankato, but readily available to meet in TC. Demands 300-500 for 1st meet.

Seniors, DM me for these GPS Phone numbers.

**Happtrav** · 07-10-22 21:44

Blondes are more fun: Has a 947 area code. Clearly a scammer. Wants $50 deposit. When I refused, Scammer got mean.

InnocentLover: 715 area code. Wisconsin Girl wants 70-100 gas money to drive to the cities.

Senior members if you want to mess with these scammers, DM me for their phone numbers.

**Member #6100** · 07-10-22 20:52

Originally Posted by Ryan33 [View Original Post]

Search this forum for armybrat.

Per Ryan's suggestion I searched the forum for Armybrat. Sure enough, there are comments on her from 2020. I found a link to her old profile that is still working.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...dWlkZS5ubC8%3D