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  1. #14513
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4426

    HangLow3

    Where did HangLow go?

    That was entertainment worth reading.

    Go HangLow!

  2. #14512
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    Posts: 1086

    Saje. Only two appointments available today.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZzTopSterZz  [View Original Post]
    A lady who coordinates her nails and her rings with her underwear is paying attention to details. Just sayin'.
    And I'm telling you, she looks better in person! Word is getting out so her appointments are now limited. Two left today. Zero tomorrow. Zero Saturday. A couple on Sunday. Zero on Monday.

    You will be astounded at the youthful beauty.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...u/863994307438

    G2.

  3. #14511
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    My Lauren dilemma

    Ok. So try as in may, I just can't seem to get a better high, than time spent with Lauren.

    If you read this Lauren, don't take it the wrong way, but I can't figure out what makes you so awesome.

    There are providers younger. Or ones more energetic. Or ones with more flexible hours. Or ones more ready to fulfill a fantasy. Or ones who charge less (don't lower your fees, Lauren). Or ones who have better communications. Or ones who don't have as many commitments that lessen their times available.

    But no one checks all of the boxes like Lauren. And here is my dilemma. I don't want to review and recommend her because then you bastards here book all of her available appointments and I'm left out. She hardly even posts anymore because so many of you dingleberries contact her directly and make appointments before she even knows her full schedule. But, I still do leave reviews and recommendations. Why? I don't know. I guess I want her to be busy so she is profitable in her pursuit of the hobby. But, I'm torn as I'm actually hurting my satisfaction of my own selfish carnal needs. Dammit. I've become altruistic.

    I read posts where dudes ask "who's the best Overall experience"? Or who gives the best blow job? Or who gives the best Russian ending? Or who has the best feeling breasts? And my answer is. Lauren. To all of the above. But why do I post that? So you crapbirds can get a high quality experience for a bargain price? I guess so.

    So that's my dilemma. It's lessened a bit because I'm out of state for work right now so I'm not fighting you hasbeens for her time. But still, I need to report, review, and recommend. Before I left out of state, I saw Lauren yesterday. I brought her fresh fruit and smoked turkey with crackers. Her favorite snack. I also brought her a bottle of VSOP cognac. Once again her favorite along with XO cognac. Kind of funny because most young women prefer a sweet wine like a moscato. So dudes don't mind bringing a $8 bottle of wine on my recommendation but probably won't bring a $80 bottle of cognac. But they should for Lauren. She should have cases of the stuff from you cheapskates. But I digress.

    The time with Lauren was divine. Her focus on me and my needs is legendary. And she compliments my technique and my self-deprecating humor. She laughs almost embarrassed when I recount stories about my nerdy high school days. She will say things like "no way. You couldn't have been that awkward as a teen!" But then she rewards me in a way that makes me glad I never scored with the popular girl in school, because it drove me to become self made. And even though confidence is still elusive, I'm confident enough to have a spectacular hour or 90 minutes with the most popular girl. Lauren. And she knows my desires and my insecurities. She fulfills one and soothes the other. And that, my friends, is why I share my thoughts with you undeserving piles of human waste. Of course, my contemptible speech is all tongue in cheek. Enjoy my friends.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...n/305103745334

    G2.

  4. #14510

    Saje

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene2  [View Original Post]
    Well the fair maiden finally has a featured post with accurate photos. Her availability is typically limited but the online scheduler shows she has openings this afternoon! And her phone number is on the STG link below, so you can text her directly! And maybe she will want some mixed drinks to enjoy together. Jameson and ginger ale.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...u/863994307438

    She's even hotter in real life.

    Enjoy.

    G2.
    A lady who coordinates her nails and her rings with her underwear is paying attention to details. Just sayin'.

  5. #14509

    Jesse at Pacific

    I decided to try someone new. Jesse at Pacific on 44th. I searched the forum but couldn't find any posts on her. Decided to TOFTT.

    Experience was mediocre. I hadn't been to Pacific in quite some time and now I remember why. Place is kind of a dump. Has a musty smell to it. The rooms aren't exactly clean. Jesse is friendly. Not the girl in the pics, obviously, but looks somewhat similar. I got my full hour, limited menu. Technique on the HE was poor.

    Even though the experience wasn't horrible, I won't repeat. There are so many better options.

    Stay safe out there.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...e/025228328093

  6. #14508
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    Two girls with same name. Be alert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raspitiun  [View Original Post]
    Had a visit with Phoenix at Hunters den and all I can say is wow. When I showed up she was wearing a t-shirt and some shorts with her ass hanging out. She is fantastic provided a good massage with roaming. On the flip some more teasing and then on to the main event. I left satisfied and can't wait to go back.
    Ok. So an FYI for all here. Shortly after I first reviewed Phoenix, the newest addition to Hunter's Den, another girl started using the same name, posting under Escorts on STG. The real Phoenix posts under Massage on STG. And she is phenomenal. The imposter is reported to have all the bad habits we hate here (old photos, upcharge fees, etc.). To make things worse the imposter has a photo with a pink teddy similar to one worn by the Real Phoenix. Don't be fooled!!

    Here's the link for the Real Phoenix. Ignore the imposter one.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...x/808443790283

    Hope that helps all avoid a disappointment!!

    G2.

  7. #14507

    Phoenix

    Had some spare time today so I went ahead and scheduled with Phoenix. I showed up at her incall to find her wearing an MSU t-shirt and some shorts with her ass peaking out. Massage was good some roaming. Flip has some more teasing then she moved on to the main event. Very s skilled with her mouth kept me on edge and had me begging for the finish. Cleaned up and donated before going on my way. Cannot wait to see her again.

  8. #14506

    Phoenix

    Had a visit with Phoenix at Hunters den and all I can say is wow. When I showed up she was wearing a t-shirt and some shorts with her ass hanging out. She is fantastic provided a good massage with roaming. On the flip some more teasing and then on to the main event. I left satisfied and can't wait to go back.

  9. #14505
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    Saje

    Well the fair maiden finally has a featured post with accurate photos. Her availability is typically limited but the online scheduler shows she has openings this afternoon! And her phone number is on the STG link below, so you can text her directly! And maybe she will want some mixed drinks to enjoy together. Jameson and ginger ale.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...u/863994307438

    She's even hotter in real life.

    Enjoy.

    G2.

  10. #14504

    Pricing and menu at Serenity and Royal

    Quote Originally Posted by JD0953  [View Original Post]
    What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.
    If you don't like to discuss price openly, then you will not like Serenity and Royal, IMHO. That is required there.

    Suggested tip amounts depend on what kind of play you want. At either place, if you want a fun massage with some nudity, teasing and HE, you better be prepared to tip equal to the time fee plus another $40. If you are just looking for a HE with light over the clothes roaming, tip the time fee. If you want more, then it will be the time fee plus $100 to start, and probably quite a bit more. Even if you bring chocolates. Expensive, right?

    And never worry about underpaying at those places. It isn't possible. They will discuss the required price openly, so you will know exactly what minimum you must pay.

    Hope that helps.

  11. #14503
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    That's the dilemma or quandary.

    Quote Originally Posted by JD0953  [View Original Post]
    What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.
    Hey JD.

    You've asked the question that's led me to my conclusions about the superiority of up front cost places like BodyworkByUs and Hunters Den. While my opinions aren't universally shared here, I do believe the majority are in agreement. I respect the viewpoint of opposing thoughts and a give a hat tip to their superior negotiating skills. My guess is that ones who promote the open ended price shops have their negotiated prices and product nailed down before they ever text or walk in. However, that's not the approach less savvy clients possess, which is at least 90% of mongers. Years worth of careful negotiating and artful deal making has led these men to get "deals" you and I could never achieve.

    There also is an unspoken allegation that those of us who promote a parlor or provider get discounted services or freebies. While I do suppose that may exist, it doesn't for me. For one, I've never wanted to become a paid endorser. Second, I hold the women who provide these services in high regard (perhaps higher than I should). I mean what they do for us, what sights they behold (a man's hairy ass, etc), the smells, the sounds, the cheap cologne, the sweat, the stale cigarettes odor, bad breath, the secretions. It's all too graphic. How could I ask them to forgo even a portion of their fee because I wrote a few words on their behalf? If some men here do that, more power to them. I just can't justify doing that.

    So, many here have an AMP approach to cost, tips, and services. Most AMPs operate with middle aged matrons who speak very little English, provide a generally good massage with a happy ending. This baseline service has a typical tip that is slightly lower than the door fee for the half hour or hour. So a $50 half hour may include a $40 tip for a happy ending. Such things as under the clothing roaming, prostate massage, topless roaming, BJs, etc will move the tip to $50-$100. Full service is more rare at AMPs here, but might move the tip to $100-$200 depending on age, attractiveness, and even English comprehension of the provider. Places in Orlando FL routinely provide 20 and 30 year old cute Asian girls who provide phenomenal FS with extras we never see here all for $200 total cost for a 45 minute adventure. But I digress.

    Here we tend to appreciate the massage girls that get naked, allow roaming, and provide a HJ or Russian finish. We also appreciate it when they don't negotiate but let us tip what we want. And most of us tip any where from matching the door fee to 150% of the door fee. So a $50 half hour massage has a $50 to $75 upcharge. A $80 hour massage has a $80 to $120 upcharge. And if the place allows DATY or BJs or FS the cost incrementally rises.

    The problem is that so many of the parlors employee providers who know that if they tease sufficiently, and get the guy worked up they can tell him what the tip will be. And they will ask a lot based upon their cuteness, and your hardness. Recent reports showed one mildly attractive provider wanted $50 for a hand job, an additional $50 if she got topless, an additional $50 if she got nude, and an additional $50 if she gave a body slide. So the dudes hour massage ended up costing $280 for what BodyworkByUs does for $180. And dude had to get off the table and get the cash.

    So now you see the draw for the up front pricing. Artful negotiators here are willing to leave without an orgasm or do it themselves to get the provider to accept what they offer. Of course, the obvious flaw here is that an annoyed provider lessens the experience quality for the paying customer. So if you're looking for cost containment, up front pricing gives that to you. If you want the slightly expanded menu you MIGHT find at open end price places, using Bbu prices as a model might help you to negotiate a better price. And in the interest of full disclosure, many BodyworkByUs clients leave a small tip ($20 to $30) in addition to the $120 for half hour, $150 for 45 minutes, $180 for hour (but many clients leave $0 tip). So that can help you to compare apples with apples.

    I hope this discussion of consumer economics didn't bore you to sleep. Oh well, not all my posts can be about the divinity of the touch of Lauren's bare breasts on my body!

    Enjoy.

    G2.

  12. #14502

    Not worth it

    Not worth the time to set it up. Tried for a last minute appointment after work one night, a quick bums rush with no satisfaction. She was more interested in paying her pimp or pusher who you had to walk past.

    Quote Originally Posted by JpWrong67  [View Original Post]

  13. #14501

    Suggested tip amount

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene2  [View Original Post]
    Glad it worked for you. Good convenient location. While you didn't need walk in, that could have been available had you needed it. And you got in with a simple referral, no worries about any alleged database. And. Up front pricing. That's a game changer. And such a benefit to us as clients. I'm sure we've all been places where the price is discussed when you're naked and aroused and you agree to a series of escalating fees for levels of nudity and pleasure. You agree to pay because your negotiating position is compromised. But then when you drive away, you're telling yourself "I paid too much. I'm not going to repeat that experience. " I think Benz was the first to point that out to me. But I've still made the mistake more often than not. And that's why the upfront pricing is such a very important aspect to the overall fun.

    Just my opinion. Well, mine and ZZtop.

    G2.
    What is the suggested tip amounts for Serenity and Royal? What is on the menu? I don't want to overpay on underpay. I don't like to discuss price openly.

  14. #14500
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    Posts: 1086

    Erstwhile wondering of what might have been.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene2  [View Original Post]
    Have seen Hunter twice since her migration to the domesticated realm of Brits place. I never saw her when she roamed the wilds of the rural locales. Probably better I didn't, as I can only imagine the sweet flavors of the entire palate that exists now in the rear view mirror for some of you lucky dogs.

    But enough of my erstwhile wonderings of what might have been.

    I arrived for the first visit with Hunter and was introduced to a mild mannered shapely woman in a clinical uniform, looking like a professional hair stylist or the like. Once she started with the massage, it was clear this was a woman with a purpose. And her purpose was to tease and build anticipation. Once the flip occurred and she joined me on the table, I was regretting my earlier decision to book a 45 minute stay. I should have done the 60! Oh well, live and learn!

    One of the few advantages of being well beyond my youthful prime, is that my time in a state of arousal can exceed what it used to. Without climax coming quickly. While this can have a down side when being attended by a fully clothed AMP matron, this possible dilemma is non existent with Hunter. I was glad I was older, the continued focus on pleasure kept going and going. When my time came, it was symphonic!

    What a tigress she is. Definitely will repeat and I promise to not allow myself to contemplate what might have been had I visited her before she was domesticated.

    Enjoy.
    So. Wonder no more. Experience for yourself. Starting Thursday.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...r/825647795429

    Once again. My timing stinks. I'll be out of state for work. Pity me.

    G2.

  15. #14499

    Reyna. BBU

    Long time BBU fan. Have seen many of the beautiful women at BBU. All are great, sexy and provide a consistent result. New place in Wyoming is safe, clean and parking is easy. Saw Reyna last week. Amazing visit. She is very friendly and easy to talk too. Got comfortable immediately. Good massage with just the right amount of pressure. Nice teasing. On the flip she got me to the edge several times, which I loved and then a great finish. Fantastic natural rack and allows much roaming. Most sexy and sensual provider I have seen at BBU to date. I would check her out if you like a nice slender, curvy, sensual woman. I will repeat. $$ + I gave her a tip for such a great job!

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...1/165819126802

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