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  1. #14371

    Milan

    Spent an hour with Milan. First timer. Overall, very standard. Scheduled appointment, easy and very responsive. When I arrived door was propped open. Milan met me out front and walked me to room. She then left to do her hair and makeup. Thanks assumes the position on the table. Returned and easy conversation. Massage was mediocre but I don't go for massage. She didn't remove top until very end and didn't remove bottoms at all, that was disappointing. Standard HJ. I'd recommend if you're looking for a standard HJ and good conversation, but not much more. $$.

  2. #14370
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4442

    First time massage

    Quote Originally Posted by TyRyder  [View Original Post]
    Hey all I'm still new to this been lurker for a while but never done anything. I'm a younger guy in 20's that has always thought about seeing provider but haven't yet. With that being said I've never had an experience like that with anyone, who would be a good person to see and what advice do you guys have? Feel free to pm.
    Read the New Member Guide.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...w-Member-Guide

    Don't tell any provider it's your first time, most will try to rip you. When you say first time their first thought is. He doesn't know how to negotiate.

    Only bring in the money you're willing to spend.

    Feel free to set a timer on your phone and let them see that you set it for the allotted time.
    You'll always get better service when you tip at the end of your session.
    Shorting time is ripping you off too. If you pop before time is up, she should still massage you until your timer goes Ding.
    If the provider is offended by any of this , she was planning to rip you off in some way.
    Stay safe.

  3. #14369

    First time massage?

    Hey all I'm still new to this been lurker for a while but never done anything. I'm a younger guy in 20's that has always thought about seeing provider but haven't yet. With that being said I've never had an experience like that with anyone, who would be a good person to see and what advice do you guys have? Feel free to pm.

  4. #14368

    Lux

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadShot  [View Original Post]
    Saw her a few months ago. First thi gs first, she looks absolutely nothing like her bait and switch pics on STG. Looks rode hard and put away wet, about 40# heavier, mostly in her stomach. Started off fine, did the hottub and some drinks, moved to the bed. Got a blow job, some rubbing and then she straddled me, rubber her pussy on my cock, and out of nowhere, jumped on my cock an went to town. Her douchebag ghetto trash boyfriend was calling, and at the door a few times. Oh yeah, and her two "bathroom breaks were so she could get stoned out of her mind. When I left, she couldn't string a coherent sentence together. Left, and then got a text complaining how I only gave her the fee she asked for, while not paying for the extras I didn't ask for. Including the std testing I needed to make sure the crackhead didn't give me anything. Wouldn't repeat, and certainly wouldn't want to deal with her dipshit "security" again. She's made every excuse about hacked phones, (not possible) and everybody lying about her heroin habit, and how she doesn't fuck anything that comes though the door to justify her so called professionalism. Mind you, every negative review with a link, she immediately deletes said link to her stg ads. Trashy, cheap, neurotic, and cringy. If you want to ride the crazy train, and worry about her dipshit boyfriend. Take the ride, but it's not worth the ticket to crazy town in my opinion. I certainly hope she sees this and gives her bs side of the story, but there are too many reviews that's say exactly what I say to refute my review of this trailer trash.
    You hit the nail on the head. I've only had one good appointment with her. Her and her BF / Security are completely nuts! I would stay very far away from this one.

  5. #14367

    Sweetie

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCruzer  [View Original Post]
    Usually I am looking for a good to great MS, and always a good HE. The closest I have experienced is Sweetie, except that she doesn't bring you close multiple times; just good massage and HE, no stopping and starting a couple of times. Sometimes I'm looking also for just the best HE. I'm also open for suggestions out there on who you like that gives the absolutely best HJ.
    While Sweetie isn't your typical MP. I have always found her very accommodating within her limits. What you described is her standard affair. Just ask.

  6. #14366

    Madison

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingOn60  [View Original Post]
    OK guys looking for best provider the gives the best hand job. I have been absent for a long time and in of someone the knows how to bring you to the edge multiple times be let it all go. That's all I am looking for. On another note has any tried the massage place in South haven?
    For edging fun, you should try Madison at BbU.

  7. #14365

    Best HJ

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingOn60  [View Original Post]
    OK guys looking for best provider the gives the best hand job. I have been absent for a long time and in of someone the knows how to bring you to the edge multiple times be let it all go. That's all I am looking for. On another note has any tried the massage place in South haven?
    Usually I am looking for a good to great MS, and always a good HE. The closest I have experienced is Sweetie, except that she doesn't bring you close multiple times; just good massage and HE, no stopping and starting a couple of times. Sometimes I'm looking also for just the best HE. I'm also open for suggestions out there on who you like that gives the absolutely best HJ.

  8. #14364

    Luxxey

    Saw her a few months ago. First thi gs first, she looks absolutely nothing like her bait and switch pics on STG. Looks rode hard and put away wet, about 40# heavier, mostly in her stomach. Started off fine, did the hottub and some drinks, moved to the bed. Got a blow job, some rubbing and then she straddled me, rubber her pussy on my cock, and out of nowhere, jumped on my cock an went to town. Her douchebag ghetto trash boyfriend was calling, and at the door a few times. Oh yeah, and her two "bathroom breaks were so she could get stoned out of her mind. When I left, she couldn't string a coherent sentence together. Left, and then got a text complaining how I only gave her the fee she asked for, while not paying for the extras I didn't ask for. Including the std testing I needed to make sure the crackhead didn't give me anything. Wouldn't repeat, and certainly wouldn't want to deal with her dipshit "security" again. She's made every excuse about hacked phones, (not possible) and everybody lying about her heroin habit, and how she doesn't fuck anything that comes though the door to justify her so called professionalism. Mind you, every negative review with a link, she immediately deletes said link to her stg ads. Trashy, cheap, neurotic, and cringy. If you want to ride the crazy train, and worry about her dipshit boyfriend. Take the ride, but it's not worth the ticket to crazy town in my opinion. I certainly hope she sees this and gives her bs side of the story, but there are too many reviews that's say exactly what I say to refute my review of this trailer trash.

  9. #14363

    Ashley winter

    Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.

    On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.

    Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.

    So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.

  10. #14362

    Don't waste your money

    Quote Originally Posted by BluBalls1  [View Original Post]
    When Lux came onto the scene, she had decent reviews but took a horrible turn.

    I am just wondering if anyone has seen her lately. I REALLY want to book an appointment with her.
    She is just a huge disappointment. Do your self and wallet a favor and don't. Boyfriend will be knocking on the door at some point for sure.

  11. #14361
    Senior Member


    Posts: 4442
    Quote Originally Posted by Stb421  [View Original Post]
    Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.

    On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.

    Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.

    So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.
    You're not White Knighting.

    This is the definition of white knighting from usasexguides abbreviations list.

    A poster who defends or "comes to the rescue" of a provider who has been reviewed poorly, regardless of whether the review is accurate.

    You didn't respond on a white horse to a review of a provider. You gave a report on your experience. That's what we're here to do. Not challenge other posters about their reviews for any reason. Just report what we know to be true for ourselves.

    Everyone has different needs in this hobby. If someone has a different opinion of a provider, so be it. Posting our honest experiences is what we're here for.

  12. #14360
    Senior Member


    Posts: 214

    LOL, Asley

    Quote Originally Posted by Stb421  [View Original Post]
    Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.

    On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.

    Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.

    So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.
    Yea, I've seen her before and there's no way in hell I would ever see her again. Worst experience ever, and I can not believe Haley let her back in.

  13. #14359

    Ashley winter

    Well I see its been busy the last couple hrs I've been out. LOL.

    On my visit with Milan last weekend, see asked if I knew Ashley or had seen her before, which I have not. She said Ashley was back at serenity and would I be willing to see her and give an honest review. I had never seen her before but was aware of the negative reviews, but as a favor to Milan I would see her. Well I just got back from my appointment, and I'll say that she has changed from what the past reviews indicated, She was in fact a little sweetheart. Very nice and pleasant. Since Milan set up the appointment, she had no idea that she was being reviewed. When we started she asked if I wanted soft or deep touch, I usually opt for medium, the massage was excellent, very through and good pressure. I was told one of our fellow mongers had trained her, they did a great job, she knows what she's doing. Shortly before the flip, she got completely comfortable without being asked, she joined me on the table while we continued our conversation and getting to know each other. Turns out we even share the same b-day, LOL she then layed down and I w got to give her a nice massage while checking out all her inked artwork. She has many. A perfect little spinner body, which she says she's only 4' 11" and her braces make her appear much younger. All in all it was a good experience overall and she seems to have turned over a new leaf and had some personal growth.

    Not trying to "white knight" for her, but I was asked to meet and give my honest review of the experience. Obviously we won't know for sure until others have the same experience or the same service with repeat visits.

    So if you have never seen her before, now would be a good time to give her a try, and if you have seen her, maybe give her a 2nd chance to redeem herself. Just my 2 cents worth.

  14. #14358
    Quote Originally Posted by Variety1  [View Original Post]
    Mongerlian, how do you REALLY feel about Ms. Winter? LOL.
    I too find her extremely attractive, and have called her twice in the last couple of years, both with zero results.

    This last call, sometime this Spring, I asked what was available, and offered a comparable donation amount that I had with other providers.
    She told me that that would get a HJ only; FS was something approaching four to five bills (if I remember correctly).

    I will say that she was friendly (with me) on the phone and has a very sexy voice, but that is very high IMO.
    LOL I suppose I was rather unflattering, probably sounds like I have a vendetta. I promise I really don't, save for the fact that, while I know there are worse experiences out there, she was easily my worst experience as far as MPs go. Truth is, I'm just trying to convey to anyone who hasn't had the lack of pleasure to be cautious, just in a colorful way. I know she's had one or two white knights (simps), but obviously the vast majority of negative reviews about her are ample evidence that my experience is the norm.

  15. #14357

    Lux / Luxxey

    Quote Originally Posted by BluBalls1  [View Original Post]
    When Lux came onto the scene, she had decent reviews but took a horrible turn.

    I am just wondering if anyone has seen her lately. I REALLY want to book an appointment with her.
    Let me be clear on this point, I've seen Lux a few times and she is an attractive, sweet girl with a unfortunate proclivity for letting me down. As she knows, I try not to leave "bad" reviews. I leave honest reviews of my experience with a provider and let the crowd sort it out. First time I saw her in Walker hotel, great experience but somewhat soured by the bf / scheduler / bodyguard and his jealousy. Body slide, no HE. Second visit, she was not talking to the bf at the time and we had an amazing session. She even stepped outside of her normal comfort zone for me (we had discussed and arranged prior to session). Third visit was Cascade area hotel I think, good massage, again no HE. She also told me she was on period at the time, so no body slide, no HE. Last visit, met at her rental near Allendale. Good massage but bf was blowing her phone up. Texts, calls, and I think she had to meet him at back door and talk twice or something. This was right before she was planning a trip to Traverse City.

    Listen, I can be as magnanimous and caring a person you'll come across, and she is seemingly such a sweet girl that I'd love to see once a week even, but I can't do it with this bf in the picture. I have a CPL but keep my protection in the vehicle when going to incall a for the safety, security, and peace of mind of the provider. I would rather they be comfortable and walk into a trap, risking my own safety, than have them uncomfortable and meeting a guy they don't know normalizing bringing a CCW into their home without their express permission. I bring this up to say that her bf seems unhinged. Is he had walked in the back door on the two occasions they met at the door while I was only wearing boxers on her massage table, it could have been a bad situation. I like Lux, she is a sweet girl but I cannot propagate her to the broader community without clarifying a few warnings. Good girl that I will refuse to see unless bf is out of picture. I'm pretty patient and giving but I won't do that. YMMV.

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