Stupid Shit In San Diego

**Ryan1979** · 06-25-22 15:35

I like these spas too and most of their girls. The long winded reports used to be entertaining but not when they comprise of the majority of reports. Then you have the members that will repost the whole novel with something short to add to their reports count and earn their pay with something like "I agree. " Also becoming ever so popular is the tagging of several reports to reply to. Sigh.

Note the popular mongers that didn't defend themselves. Take a good hard look at their history and recent trends. Some previously sincere members have unfortunately been corrupted. Know that these members not only make up pseudo reports, but also try to paint themselves as players, usually lying about their age and out of spa escapades. But there are also many truths to these reports, fake or not, so take all posts with a grain of salt. I still like to check out some reports for myself, which usually separates the shills from the sincere.

I took a little heat from the spas that pay these mongers for their posts. They've shared who these members are though I'm not going to reveal for the sake of the spas, but I think it's pretty obvious. When the spas contacted me about this post, I told them plain and simple, I don't like you paying these fuckers to post shill reports for you. All of them said the same thing; all the spas are doing it so we have to or lose business.

I told them they don't need to. Let the reports happen organically like they used to, but the feeling is they will not stop until the other spas stop paying for these shill reports. How much some of you wonder? I've been offered between $500 and a $1000+/ month as well as paid accounts on RubMaps and other forums / websites that have reviews.

There are even some mongers with the nerve to ask to be paid for reports or do the opposite with straight out blackmail reporting to the police if not paid in some way. To the blackmailers, we have your numbers and most times your picture and plates. They've been distributed to many spas and working girls. In case you haven't noticed, you didn't close any of them or cost them the thousands you threatened as opposed to paying you off. If a spa closed that you threatened, it was not due to you, it was other circumstances. If a spa payed you for your blackmail, it's only because I didn't know them or you would be in my radar.

The good news is there are many hidden treasures out there that many of us like for their laid back, no rush services. They work harder to please because they do not succumb to paying for fake shill reports. I don't mind keeping them under the radar, but you know how to get a hold of me if you'd care to know some of these hidden treasures.

Number one rule always applies, if you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away. If you choose to stay, it's on you not whatever report influenced you.

Originally Posted by Waylay [View Original Post]

I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.

I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.

Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).

**FO9999** · 06-25-22 14:20

Originally Posted by Ryan1979 [View Original Post]

I believe there's always been a handful of mongers that were rewarded in some way for posting reports about spas and specific providers. A pass on the house fee, a freebie or discount on services, etc. Then there are the spa owners themselves that would create accounts and post their own reports attempting to promote their spas and girls. Most are painfully obvious with their lack of English and writing skills, but even newbies would read them and think WTF.

As of recent, when a flood of reports dominated this forum, even senior mongers would elude to "creative" marketing skills by a spa that need not be mentioned. My point is, it was during this time that this forum began being flooded with long detailed Penthouse forum type of reports. Sure there were always those fantasy stories shared every once in awhile, to relive and share an awesome experience, me included. But the sheer number of these types of reports currently seems to be the new normal.

I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me. As you read some reports and some blatant white knighting for the slightest of criticisms towards a spa or girl, just know that some mongers are being paid healthy amounts for their reports..

Right on. There are 50+ spas that are FS anyway. As they say $$ talk.

**RChangDatyKing** · 06-24-22 23:52

Originally Posted by Waylay [View Original Post]

I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.

I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.

Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).

Self conscious? Waylay, bro you are a respected member and always offer great intel / guidance / recommendations. Why give a shit what some of these guys think. Even if you only reviewed one spa, you will still be respected by mongers because your reviews would be honest and the girls with the positive reviews would all be incredible, and you would never discouraged anyone from going to their competitions. I can always rely on your reviews on the 2 spas, independents, non FS spas if that's where I am visiting.

Also, shout out to these other mongers for their intel and making this FUN!

If I am looking for intel about spas. I would look for your reviews, as well as those from PTJohnny, Mr. Muffman, CuriousJo8, FsSDMon. And of course Blue Sky Blue the one who got me to signed up.

If I want to know about Independents I would look for posts from. JackeRouac, Lion1, SDFitLife, Heywood, AJaxer11, BigChopper.

If I want HX, Asian agencies and FS escorts- Sir Bishop, IslandFan, Kwaze, SDPewPew, The Ass Man.

All these other gentlemen for everything else. LOL- Dog Rice, Stupitt, Denutss, DragonWolf, RolfTorren.

Thanks fellas! Happy mongering and stay safe.

**Waylay** · 06-24-22 16:29

Originally Posted by Ryan1979 [View Original Post]

I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me.

I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.

I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.

Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).

**Ryan1979** · 06-23-22 15:55

I believe there's always been a handful of mongers that were rewarded in some way for posting reports about spas and specific providers. A pass on the house fee, a freebie or discount on services, etc. Then there are the spa owners themselves that would create accounts and post their own reports attempting to promote their spas and girls. Most are painfully obvious with their lack of English and writing skills, but even newbies would read them and think WTF.

As of recent, when a flood of reports dominated this forum, even senior mongers would elude to "creative" marketing skills by a spa that need not be mentioned. My point is, it was during this time that this forum began being flooded with long detailed Penthouse forum type of reports. Sure there were always those fantasy stories shared every once in awhile, to relive and share an awesome experience, me included. But the sheer number of these types of reports currently seems to be the new normal.

I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me. As you read some reports and some blatant white knighting for the slightest of criticisms towards a spa or girl, just know that some mongers are being paid healthy amounts for their reports.

For the record, I've been given a pass on a house fee from time to time, but never asked for and never for an expected report. More so for being a good customer that treats the girls and spa owners / managers well. I've been offered healthy amounts of cash for reports and have always refused. I'm still treated with respect and appreciation by the spa owners and girls and I suspect a bit more respect then you poor saps that need the money more than integrity.

Just my 2 cents.

**Ryan1979** · 06-23-22 15:28

I'm more along the lines of Max's opinion. I'd like to think I'm just one of many that have a genuine concern for these working girls well being, but I am aware that there are many of you that could give a rats ass other than your own pleasure from these girls.

To your point, you are helping them pay their rent when you pay for these working girls services. To my point, I have developed many good friendships with these working girls and spa owners where we take care of each other as friends with benefits as well as just good old friends sharing life's pleasures and troubles together.

To only know these working girls from a sexual perspective, you are only touching the surface of the beauty and depth that lies beneath their flesh. I know this sounds corny to you based on your post, but from the stories shared by these working girls, there are many mongers that wish they could have more than just the sex.

I have the most respect for mongers with reports that reflect a genuine interest in these working girls well being, even if I disagree with their taste in women and their expectations.

Originally Posted by AMPguy2 [View Original Post]

Been on here for over a decade and rarely post. I've never disrespected anyone and have always had a good time. But to show a genuine interest in the ladies' well-being? Naw. I'll pass on that.

You going to ask Shirley out on a date or pay for her rent for the month? C'Mon. My white knighted brotha.

If this is too combative (although meant in jest) mods are welcome to not post.

**AMPguy2** · 06-23-22 01:59

Originally Posted by MaximusKahn [View Original Post]

I've noticed that a lot of the hobbyists who consistently post having a great time with the ladies seem to be the same guys who show respect, compassion, and a genuine interest in the ladies' wellbeing and their connection to them.

Hmmmmm. Imagine that. Maybe something to consider as we are out there trying to enjoy the hobby.

Been on here for over a decade and rarely post. I've never disrespected anyone and have always had a good time. But to show a genuine interest in the ladies' well-being? Naw. I'll pass on that.

You going to ask Shirley out on a date or pay for her rent for the month? C'Mon. My white knighted brotha.

If this is too combative (although meant in jest) mods are welcome to not post.

**The DudeInSd** · 06-14-22 09:50

Originally Posted by Ryan1979 [View Original Post]

I read your post and did not see anything malicious, rather you just sharing an opinion and experiences. My post about BBFS was not meant to be critical of yours, rather just sharing my opinion and experiences as well.

In general, if I think I'm going to post a report about a girl, I ask them if it's okay. So if they provided BBFS, I'm happy to share. That said, there only been one girl that didn't care about me posting BBFS. I don't recall if I actually mentioned it or not, but several other mongers did and I generally don't like to repeat what's already been reported.

Appreciate your consideration.

Ok cool and yes I guess that's a good idea going forward. Ask the spa girl if she is cool with it. The Korean agency girls mostly advertise so it's not a secret.

Cheers.

**Ryan1979** · 06-13-22 22:22

I read your post and did not see anything malicious, rather you just sharing an opinion and experiences. My post about BBFS was not meant to be critical of yours, rather just sharing my opinion and experiences as well.

In general, if I think I'm going to post a report about a girl, I ask them if it's okay. So if they provided BBFS, I'm happy to share. That said, there only been one girl that didn't care about me posting BBFS. I don't recall if I actually mentioned it or not, but several other mongers did and I generally don't like to repeat what's already been reported.

Appreciate your consideration.

Originally Posted by TheDudeInSd [View Original Post]

First off I would like to apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers with my post. I am not trying to fight or cause harm to any mongers or girls. I just have some questions / thoughts on what is permitted to post on this website.

Multiple AMP spa girls have been known over the past few years to offer BBFS and it has been discussed on this website. Not until this week has anyone got upset about posting reviews on a review site concerning this? Without mentioning their specific names but made up names. 1) pixie haircut 2) Strawberry at you spa in LG 3) Yuyulemon at you spa in LG 4) Yella at L spa on EC Blvd. And the list goes on. I texted pixie purple this week as she is working up in Washington state and asked if it bothered her that customers know she offers this service and she texted back "no problem". I also texted YYLemon and she said "she offers it to who she feels comfortable with but denies many requests". The agency girls advertise "open minded with no guarantee" which means they may say "sorry honey need to use condom today". Many agency girls do not advertise BB but will offer it if they feel comfortable with you.

Just like when we ask a spa girl for a kiss, a BBBJ, CFS, or any other service and they say "sorry honey only HJ, or sorry honey only CBJ or sorry honey only blah blah". Bottom line is they say no to many requests each and every day. No big deal.

Again my apologies if I made a mistake with my reviews.

**GilfLover** · 06-12-22 16:23

Originally Posted by TheDudeInSd [View Original Post]

First off I would like to apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers with my post. I am not trying to fight or cause harm to any mongers or girls. I just have some questions / thoughts on what is permitted to post on this website.

Multiple AMP spa girls have been known over the past few years to offer BBFS and it has been discussed on this website. Not until this week has anyone got upset about posting reviews on a review site concerning this? Without mentioning their specific names but made up names. 1) pixie haircut 2) Strawberry at you spa in LG 3) Yuyulemon at you spa in LG 4) Yella at L spa on EC Blvd. And the list goes on. I texted pixie purple this week as she is working up in Washington state and asked if it bothered her that customers know she offers this service and she texted back "no problem". I also texted YYLemon and she said "she offers it to who she feels comfortable with but denies many requests". The agency girls advertise "open minded with no guarantee" which means they may say "sorry honey need to use condom today". Many agency girls do not advertise BB but will offer it if they feel comfortable with you.

Just like when we ask a spa girl for a kiss, a BBBJ, CFS, or any other service and they say "sorry honey only HJ, or sorry honey only CBJ or sorry honey only blah blah". Bottom line is they say no to many requests each and every day. No big deal.

Again my apologies if I made a mistake with my reviews.

Bravo, very well said! Thanks for throwing that out there.

**The DudeInSd** · 06-12-22 14:49

First off I would like to apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers with my post. I am not trying to fight or cause harm to any mongers or girls. I just have some questions / thoughts on what is permitted to post on this website.

Multiple AMP spa girls have been known over the past few years to offer BBFS and it has been discussed on this website. Not until this week has anyone got upset about posting reviews on a review site concerning this? Without mentioning their specific names but made up names. 1) pixie haircut 2) Strawberry at you spa in LG 3) Yuyulemon at you spa in LG 4) Yella at L spa on EC Blvd. And the list goes on. I texted pixie purple this week as she is working up in Washington state and asked if it bothered her that customers know she offers this service and she texted back "no problem". I also texted YYLemon and she said "she offers it to who she feels comfortable with but denies many requests". The agency girls advertise "open minded with no guarantee" which means they may say "sorry honey need to use condom today". Many agency girls do not advertise BB but will offer it if they feel comfortable with you.

Just like when we ask a spa girl for a kiss, a BBBJ, CFS, or any other service and they say "sorry honey only HJ, or sorry honey only CBJ or sorry honey only blah blah". Bottom line is they say no to many requests each and every day. No big deal.

Again my apologies if I made a mistake with my reviews.

**RexLexNex** · 06-11-22 16:42

Originally Posted by DreamFreez [View Original Post]

Those are HPV.

Human papillomavirus infection https://g.co/kgs/2B116Z.

If you have vaccine, you are safe against most HPV. I got my HPV vaccine back in 2017, I noticed similar spots on a Nuru massage girl, she had like 30-40 around the kitty, I got scared that I was going to get that shit, it spreads through skin-to-skin contact, I didn't see them on me which means the vaccine worked against it. You need to be below age 26 to get the vaccine though to see maximum benefit.

https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine-for-hpv.html

You will see them on or around your dick, Bill Burr has a stand up comedy bit about these spots on the New Netflix special that was released a few days back, its called Bill Burr presents: Friends who kill the joke starts around 3 minute mark

False information.

HPV looks like a lesion has wider surface area on the outer skin.

Those are papules. Similar to skin tags. Harmless.

**Ryan1979** · 05-29-22 21:01

I brought up the 520 and 521 as a point of interest and in hopes some of you boys would make some of these Chinese working girls feel appreciated and acknowledged during these dates of Chinese affection. But it isn't so much if you know the significance of 520 with a Chinese woman, it's if they feel you are worthy of their attention during these Chinese Valentine days.

As I had mentioned in my original post concerning 520, if a Chinese girl brings these dates to your attention, they most likely have some interest in you. In fact this is how I discovered the significance of these dates in modern Chinese culture. Several Chinese ladies mentioned these dates to me. The juggling of multiple women is a whole other topic but I find honesty to be the best policy and if you can find women that accept you as a man *****, you've achieved nirvana IMO.

Originally Posted by MaximusKahn [View Original Post]

I appreciate learning about new things in other cultures, especially things that can help us connect with people and create good feelings. Thank you Ryan for sharing the romantic significance of May 20 and May 21 in the Chinese culture.

I think it's great to make the women feel good about the business, what they do with us, and to feel good about themselves overall. In fact, I encourage all of us to create good feelings all around. It is good for the business, the hobby, for the providers, and of course it's better for us.

If any monger wants to play the "I love you" "you love me" game with a provider that's fine, but to keep it real, it would be best to probably not share this special gesture with too many women at once. We know the women review this site, and they talk to each other, so sending a 5/20 message of "I love you" to multiple providers may get you a reply on 5/21, but I'm sure they think such a gesture to so many women is just a love struck puppy who is Fuck-Struck happy.

Passing out "red envelopes" for the holiday is different and I'm sure you can pass out as many as you want without them thinking it's anything but nice. But saying "I love you" to many providers at once is a little different when you consider it's being said to women who, probably have many men "in love" with them many times a day. I'm sure the compliments and offers they get after an amazing session would not be compete without being told "I love you" by a half joking thoroughly satisfied client.

We can say we "love them" but we need to be real about them replying they "love us. " If any client really thinks they "love" you see what you get if you stop paying. Don't pay directly, don't give gifts, don't take them on trips, and try to get some "love" with no payment at all. If she wants to be your girlfriend and gives you the goods for free, then by all means fall in love. If she still wants money for the honey, then, try not to fall too deeply in love, it will only break your heart. And probably your wallet too.

What's the first rule of mongering? "don't fall in love with a provider!

What's the first rule of being a provider? "don't get emotionally attached to any clients!

**Jaguar300ZX** · 05-28-22 01:47

Originally Posted by MaximusKahn [View Original Post]

If any monger wants to play the "I love you" "you love me" game with a provider that's fine, but to keep it real, it would be best to probably not share this special gesture with too many women at once. We know the women review this site, and they talk to each other, so sending a 5/20 message of "I love you" to multiple providers may get you a reply on 5/21, but I'm sure they think such a gesture to so many women is just a love struck puppy who is Fuck-Struck happy.
We can say we "love them" but we need to be real about them replying they "love us"
If any client really thinks they "love" you see what you get if you stop paying. Don't pay directly, don't give gifts, don't take them on trips, and try to get some "love" with no payment at all. If she wants to be your girlfriend and gives you the goods for free, then by all means fall in love. If she still wants money for the honey, then, try not to fall too deeply in love, it will only break your heart. And probably your wallet too.
What's the first rule of mongering? "don't fall in love with a provider!
What's the first rule of being a provider? "don't get emotionally attached to any clients!

When I was One and Twenty, I heard a Wiseman say;

"Give Pounds and Crowns and Rubys, -but not your Heart away”

Well, now I'm One and Sixty, and this I'll say to you.

Regarding what that Wiseman said; -it's True, it's True, it's True.

**MaximusKahn** · 05-23-22 17:42

I appreciate learning about new things in other cultures, especially things that can help us connect with people and create good feelings. Thank you Ryan for sharing the romantic significance of May 20 and May 21 in the Chinese culture.

I think it's great to make the women feel good about the business, what they do with us, and to feel good about themselves overall. In fact, I encourage all of us to create good feelings all around. It is good for the business, the hobby, for the providers, and of course it's better for us.

If any monger wants to play the "I love you" "you love me" game with a provider that's fine, but to keep it real, it would be best to probably not share this special gesture with too many women at once. We know the women review this site, and they talk to each other, so sending a 5/20 message of "I love you" to multiple providers may get you a reply on 5/21, but I'm sure they think such a gesture to so many women is just a love struck puppy who is Fuck-Struck happy.

Passing out "red envelopes" for the holiday is different and I'm sure you can pass out as many as you want without them thinking it's anything but nice. But saying "I love you" to many providers at once is a little different when you consider it's being said to women who, probably have many men "in love" with them many times a day. I'm sure the compliments and offers they get after an amazing session would not be compete without being told "I love you" by a half joking thoroughly satisfied client.

We can say we "love them" but we need to be real about them replying they "love us. " If any client really thinks they "love" you see what you get if you stop paying. Don't pay directly, don't give gifts, don't take them on trips, and try to get some "love" with no payment at all. If she wants to be your girlfriend and gives you the goods for free, then by all means fall in love. If she still wants money for the honey, then, try not to fall too deeply in love, it will only break your heart. And probably your wallet too.

What's the first rule of mongering? "don't fall in love with a provider!

What's the first rule of being a provider? "don't get emotionally attached to any clients!