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  1. #5361
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance547  [View Original Post]
    The key to having success is leverage. Others say control but I don't like that word as I'm not controlling anyone and any provider with me is free to come and go as they please.

    In regards to Reds, I always picked her up on the cold winter nights in Kensington late at night off the street. When you pick them up that way and they sit in that nice warm vehicle and they know you're not going to give them any problems you get a break and they don't play games.

    When you contact providers online via the phone you have no leverage and lots of times you're not even speaking to the actual girl but her pimp / boyfriend. A decent looking girl can get 100's of calls / text a day and so if you don't agree to the donation they just ignore your number and go on to someone else because they don't need you when they have 50 other calls from desperate men who some have deep pockets. If you want a good rate you need to deal with the provider directly and when she's seeking refuge otherwise you have no leverage.

    That said, now days it's hard to find a good looking clean girl in the streets or even online. Not sure if it's temp or long term but I just want my $ worth and the AMPs are a breath of fresh air now.
    I think when people say "control" they mean control the situation. I know that's what I mean. If I am not sure of a girl and am doing a TOFTT I prefer outcall. When it's her room she has control of the situation. When it's mine I control the situation. Leverage is of course very important. Also being firm and letting them see that you are not one for nonsense also helps.

  2. #5360
    Quote Originally Posted by FunSaMale  [View Original Post]
    Don't send money. Don't fall for it.
    Amen these chicks can never be broke they can make over $1000 a day if they have a heavy flow of customers and gross more than some of us a year without paying taxes the reason why these chicks can not save their money because they are candy addicts they make their money and run to the candy boys. Instead of saving their money to have better living conditions they prefer to live hotel to hotel that's not stable living chicks can get a one bedroom apartment and do their work at home in a safe place make money be responsible pay rent get rid of the boyfriend and pimp just useless baggage. But chicks with a candy addiction do not thinks like this I wish they would but it will never happen.

  3. #5359

    Don't fall for the I'm hurting broke story

    Quote Originally Posted by ReadingNeeds  [View Original Post]
    https://south-jersey.skipthegames.co...s/179290598173

    Let me point out, that I saw Reds prior to "my new approach to this game. I am sure I over paid and more. Let me also state that she is a nice girl in a bad situation. I like her plenty but won't be repeating. That has more to do with feeling safe. But, she is as sweet as she can be in her position and I don't think that other mongers should feel unsafe with her. Just understand the situation. That said, she is pregnant. Didn't know that till I saw her. She says four months. I say closer to five or six.

    First time I contacted her she responded quickly. She gave me a rate of $. 5 HH and $$. 50 an hour. Seemed high and at 22 YO a little young for my taste as I continue my search for a regular. But, at 115 lbs, she was in my attraction "wheel house". Made a date and time. Pulled in 10 minutes early. Texted here and asked for room number. She had already asked me for a little up front for her room. Ughhhh. Dumb ass. Anyway, she says "give me two minutes I am paying for my room now". Then dark. Its a ghost. Course I recon'd the lobby right away and she wasn't there. So I figured 50 bucks down the drain and needed another friend. (strike one) That night she sends me multiple texts about how sorry she was. She feel asleep. Slang for nodded out. She's going to make it up to me (they all are going to make it up to me. After all they really care about me) . Unlike Tailgunner, I am quite "unmanly" with her and melt like the chump that I am (was). She has room problems again, sends me over priced personalized content. She is saying my name so not stock stuff.

    We make another date and I show up early again. But, now I have a room number. I park and recon. Tell her am 5 min out. A minute later her door opens and a BF or handler comes out, down the steps and sits down on the sidewalk. Ten minutes later she's ready and up I go, making sure to double lock the door. The guy doesn't look like he can handle even me so not too worried. I ask her about the guy in the Philles cap outside and she doesn't know what I am talking about (strike two). The date starts great. Very spirited and sloppy BBBJ. She tries really hard. Just about to enter heaven and ask about BB. She says, "I usually charge a hundred more for that". I tell her I don't have it, which is not true. Cause the light just went off in my brain. Just another girl with her hand in my pocket, but she really cares about me. She says, "well in that case let me get the cover". ... I carry my own magnums cause I have length and girth.... its a DNA thing. A gift from my Dad. I will never forget when he was old and dying, I have to help him to the bathroom and he sits down and says "ohh that's cold". I look down and man oh man, its way down in the water. Holy carp ! But, I digress. OK, here's where the cover strangles the hard on right off me. I have given her plenty more than the $100 and she is not giving that up to me for free. No free lunches and no free sex. (Strike Three, she's out) . I finish manually without the cover with a great tasting pussy on my face and gone in a 30 min full hour. Here's the deal. I will not repeat but she is spot on pictures. Except the pregnant thing. But, she's tiny, spirited and appears to like sex a lot. I like her more cause she was the last straw to my new leaf on my approach to what I am doing. She finished teaching me an important lesson. Well, some of the guys on this board helped too. I am a sex addict but I don't need to buy 10 bags for 50 bucks. Like I said, a year in and I am learning. Great hygiene. I like the pregnancy thing. Ahh just a fetish. Very pretty. But arms show subtle signs of her demons. I'd say she has a month left before she's gone for the baby. Got home, called the doctor, told him I have a sinus infection and took a dose of antibiotics. That fat pussy was worth the risk IMO. Tailgunner's name tells me what he wants. I should change mine to "pieman". Recommend if you can keep your fat wallet in your pocket. Don't go for the full hour. Don't trust her sob story. Duh. I did text her and tell her that should have been free and that I was out. Also told her I over paid. She assured me everyone gets the same deal. IDK, I doubt it. I am out of the FH business anyway. Sent me more texts for a couple of days "said she needed my help. Please". But, that probably was just her handler talking to me. I returned the ghosting favor.
    Don't send money. Don't fall for it.

  4. #5358

    Ginger in Browns Mills

    Any intel on this girl. She advertises frequently in south jersey. https://mount-laurel-nj.skipthegames...r/034237284157.

  5. #5357
    The key to having success is leverage. Others say control but I don't like that word as I'm not controlling anyone and any provider with me is free to come and go as they please.

    In regards to Reds, I always picked her up on the cold winter nights in Kensington late at night off the street. When you pick them up that way and they sit in that nice warm vehicle and they know you're not going to give them any problems you get a break and they don't play games.

    When you contact providers online via the phone you have no leverage and lots of times you're not even speaking to the actual girl but her pimp / boyfriend. A decent looking girl can get 100's of calls / text a day and so if you don't agree to the donation they just ignore your number and go on to someone else because they don't need you when they have 50 other calls from desperate men who some have deep pockets. If you want a good rate you need to deal with the provider directly and when she's seeking refuge otherwise you have no leverage.

    That said, now days it's hard to find a good looking clean girl in the streets or even online. Not sure if it's temp or long term but I just want my $ worth and the AMPs are a breath of fresh air now.

  6. #5356

    Who's the babe in the pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman007  [View Original Post]
    To answer a question from someone, when I see an escort I ususally put the donation down, and start getting busy immediately. If the provider makes a move to take the donation to put it away, I say leave it there is going nowhere.

    Most of the time they leave it there, unless someone is waiting for it in the bathroom or outside. That's way I always make sure nobody is in the room, and before entering I scan the surroundings.
    Any info you can share on the hottie in the photo? Would love to get down with that.

  7. #5355
    Quote Originally Posted by OverKill418  [View Original Post]
    I have an UTR babe that comes over. She lives very close and never had a problem. Now one of these STG freaks, no freaking way. I also have two dogs but they are harmless idiots.
    I prefer outcalls to me actually. That limits the choices for me because I don't do the driver thing so if they don't drive themselves or won't let me pick them up myself and take them back, I don't see them for an outcall. I don't pay Uber or Lyft. It will also show if the girl is really independent or has a handler. If she has been hiding it, it will come out once that hour mark hits LOL. If she is independent and having a good time, a girl will easily do 2 hours or so without an issue for whatever you agreed on for the hour. Feed them a meal and you'd be surprised how long she's down to hang around or do another pop. Plus on my home turf, I feel more comfortable and definitely not concerned about a handler knocking on a hotel room door, which I have experienced more than once LOL. If the girl insists on using her driver, etc, I move on.

  8. #5354

    Freak

    Quote Originally Posted by OverKill418  [View Original Post]
    I have an UTR babe that comes over. She lives very close and never had a problem. Now one of these STG freaks, no freaking way. I also have two dogs but they are harmless idiots.
    Who? Love to see her.

  9. #5353

    Hosting

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPipe  [View Original Post]
    Point taken and I generally agree. I am single, but the two.

    100 pound dogs that stay in the house with me and the pretty good security system catching everything coming and going on camera have been deterrents to any of that, so far. I also don't give off the impression that I wouldn't rain hell down on whoever would be so foolish either LOL, so knock on wood, I've been fortunate. That offer doesn't go to just any girl in need either.
    I have an UTR babe that comes over. She lives very close and never had a problem. Now one of these STG freaks, no freaking way. I also have two dogs but they are harmless idiots.

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  11. #5351

    Control

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterJay  [View Original Post]
    I forgot to mention sometimes I put the donation down and start stripping the chick myself never had any issues with any chick doing this wasn't an idea I came up with just a habit of mine but can be use as an idea what's your opinion about this.
    When you do that, you are in control of the situation. If you do it slowly and gently they will appreciated, but if they pull away from you, it means they don't like to be touched and the date will be a downer.

    The more you control the date, the better the outcome.

  12. #5350
    Quote Originally Posted by BigJ56  [View Original Post]
    I don't mean to knock what works for you, but this seems like an invitation to getting robbed, either during the night or in the future now that you've been "cased. " I'm sure there are plenty of us who don't have a wife and kids at home but still have more rational reasons to seek dates far from our front door.
    Point taken and I generally agree. I am single, but the two.

    100 pound dogs that stay in the house with me and the pretty good security system catching everything coming and going on camera have been deterrents to any of that, so far. I also don't give off the impression that I wouldn't rain hell down on whoever would be so foolish either LOL, so knock on wood, I've been fortunate. That offer doesn't go to just any girl in need either.

  13. #5349
    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman007  [View Original Post]
    I agree with you Hunter, never get naked first, always wait for the Miss to strip down and follow suit.
    I forgot to mention sometimes I put the donation down and start stripping the chick myself never had any issues with any chick doing this wasn't an idea I came up with just a habit of mine but can be use as an idea what's your opinion about this.

  14. #5348
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPipe  [View Original Post]
    I also don't give up more than 120 for a good non rushed date with pretty much whatever I want. Nice, long bbj, multiple positions, sometimes cim, sometimes BBFS depending on which one it is and our personal history and comfort level. If you play your cards right, they normally are cool hanging out for way less than they advertise and sometimes with no charge at all, depending on the situation. I've gotten nights with two pops and another pop in the morning just for letting a girl spend the night because the hotels were booked or they wanted an appointment to get money for a room, but I didn't want to spend any money, but wanted company for the night. I counter offer they can stay with me for the night and eat a good meal and shower up, shave, etc and you'd be surprised how many take it. It also lays the groundwork to future fun where you don't pay in money. And when they stay with you, there is no clock to watch LOL.

    I can't tell you how many times a girl has given me the world on an appointment for a new phone and service card which cost me totally about 90 bucks. The phone has a higher value than what it actually cost. Some of these girls have absolute dickheads for bfs, etc and most of the time they're carrying his demons too. Damn near every girl I know has gone thru a phone issue at least 5-10 times. You have no idea how good a phone, a service card and say a meal from the Applebee's 2 for 24 menu sounds to a girl with no phone, using apps on different peoples phones or devices, that's been eating wawa and cereal whenever she does get food. Add the 12 bucks for her meal to the 90 so a good 100, but what I get in return is what a lot of guys are paying big money for. Good hour and half of fun, lots of foreplay, whatever positions I want and pretty much finish wherever I want. Sometimes it's not what you pay but how you pay. I think I'm going to write a rulebook for mongers LOL.
    Preach it Brother! I have a mongering tips thing going on in the central jersey General forum. Why don't you do something like that here. We both get the same result which is to get the best service possible at the lowest possible price. You have a different way to do it which I never considered. I am sure other smart mongers have ways neither of us thought of. Let's get the info out there. When enough mongers aren't playing stupid anymore the girls will have to lower prices and up service. More girls for us when the white knights aren't enabling them any more.

  15. #5347
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPipe  [View Original Post]
    I counter offer they can stay with me for the night and eat a good meal and shower up, shave, etc and you'd be surprised how many take it.
    I don't mean to knock what works for you, but this seems like an invitation to getting robbed, either during the night or in the future now that you've been "cased. " I'm sure there are plenty of us who don't have a wife and kids at home but still have more rational reasons to seek dates far from our front door.

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