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  1. #10140

    Agreed, but.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badboy2  [View Original Post]
    There will always be bitching in the threads, there always has been, it's an STL thing. It got so bad, the mods created the Stupid Shit In STL thread.

    We have a limited amount of good providers in the STL area for various and I think the mongers out number the providers. This equates to bitching for various reason, ranging from cost, to looks, to location, hell to even the number of tattoos. That kind of stuff is in the whatever category to me. I just look for good recommendations. There are guys who constantly promote for their favorites, and I get. The reasons vary from getting a discounted session or a freebie here and there who knows. But the girl will either be told or is watching the board to see it. It's got to be good to see nice things written about their service and probably emotionally heartbreaking when they read the negative.

    Everyone has a different experience with each provider, if they are given a chance. In the case of the vixens, maria's girls, etc. that has not been the case, thus the call for a different thread. I get it.

    My main goal is to avoid getting ripped off and to help other avoid ripoff artists. The board usually comes together when that happens. I even recall when a stalking monger was called out. So there is some good that happens in these threads.
    I am not sure that is what he was talking about. I wonder if he was saying that Vixens, Angels, etc dominate the discussion on this thread and Massage Parlors. Over the last few months, it seems like every other reply, post, etc is a comment about these ladies. I think it hinders conversations, questions and reviews about other providers. No one wants to get ripped off, but this is a escort thread, that talks about girls that don't present themselves as escorts. If someone posts about visiting High End providers, or Sugar Babies, they are routed to the other discussion thread. Maybe there should be a thread exclusively for Vixens / Angels.

  2. #10139

    Two Springfield IL girls.

    I've looked everywhere I can think of for info on these two. They are probably working together. Both ads showed up on the same day, and both in Troy, IL. If you know where there is something posted about them, or if you have seen them, please let me know. And yes, I did search for them in the STL, and Springfield IL sections and nothing came up. If I don't get any feedback, I may TOFTT, with the blonde, but thhe other one has some bigger tits, so IDK. Would be better if I knew which one was better.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...louis/84012313

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...louis/84048590

  3. #10138
    Quote Originally Posted by Apache77  [View Original Post]
    I saw these two ladies today and it was an excellent visit. I've seen Parker many times in the past but this was my first visit with Ivy. I have to say she also does an excellent job of kissing and oral which are my favorite activities. Will definitely see them again and probably sooner rather than later!
    I have received some of the best recommendations from Apache. Cheers!

  4. #10137

    Parker and Ivy

    Quote Originally Posted by FScott1984  [View Original Post]
    Met with Parker and Ivy a few weeks ago and it was off the charts. These women love what they do and each other and it shows.

    My favorite new position they taught me is the Triangle where Parker sat on my cock and Ivy sat on my face and I could hear them making out while I made them happy from below. It was definitely one of my all time favorite sessions in the hobby.

    I just saw they are doing 4 Hand this week on their Snapchat. I'm going to definitely retry that this week plus just found out about Doggy Deluxe is on the menu too.

    Just can't wait to see them this week.
    I saw these two ladies today and it was an excellent visit. I've seen Parker many times in the past but this was my first visit with Ivy. I have to say she also does an excellent job of kissing and oral which are my favorite activities. Will definitely see them again and probably sooner rather than later!

  5. #10136

    Update on Delilah Love

    Quote Originally Posted by StlGamerDude  [View Original Post]
    https://tryst.link/escort/littlered

    Anyone plan on seeing her or is that just out of price range for most people?
    Was still deciding if I wanted to see her and I noticed on her twitter she said some client said she had reviews on TER (I can't find them) that all said she had GPS. Well glad she saved me the trouble of spending double what I'd usually spend.

  6. #10135

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthCityGuySt  [View Original Post]
    Having experienced a wide range of providers over the years, I can say that some of the best experiences have been with providers in the $200-$300 range. I've spent much more and while I haven't been disappointed per se, there was some level of regret thinking "I could have just paid $250 for so and so. " For me, $300 is the top end as I never felt it was worth it paying more with any provider. There are a lot of the best providers in St. Louis that fall in that range and just too much GPS in the higher price ranges in my experience.
    Angelina Fox was 250 hhr and it was total GFE full service without question. Google her name as an escort and you'll see the photos. No upsell BS either. Better than any of the Vixens by far. Amazing for a girl who barely speaks the language. Due back later this year. Meanwhile I'm seeing others from the same company posting ads. Not many in that price range but some are. And then there's Remy. Not everyone's preference but half the price and another no bullshit GFE. I always use a cover even they don't requse it. So again, not for everyone tastes but they seem to understand the value of good customers.

  7. #10134

    RE: Higher priced providers

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthCityGuySt  [View Original Post]
    Having experienced a wide range of providers over the years, I can say that some of the best experiences have been with providers in the $200-$300 range. I've spent much more and while I haven't been disappointed per se, there was some level of regret thinking "I could have just paid $250 for so and so. " For me, $300 is the top end as I never felt it was worth it paying more with any provider. There are a lot of the best providers in St. Louis that fall in that range and just too much GPS in the higher price ranges in my experience.
    I will add that my experiences over 8 hrs have been in Vegas (the worst), NYC (third worst), Seattle (2nd best for me) Dayton, Cincinnati, Columbus Ohio tri city area (my number 1) and now St. Louis (2nd worst for me).

    Being in Ohio was great for being a monger. This area sux in comparison by a long shot in terms of rate to quality of the dream.

  8. #10133
    Quote Originally Posted by YoungSkeez77  [View Original Post]
    100% agree with this. I haven't gotten into paying $600+ yet, but I stick with traveling Eros girls for $350-$450. I personally don't see the point of paying for the girls less than that (with a few exceptions, but it's rare in STL). There's something deeply unsettling to me about paying to fuck a 5. Or worse.
    Agreed. I just got back from Orlando and $200 is a phenomenal experience from an 7 or 8 Asian. Then in Rio $31 was an 9 or 10 with all and I mean all included.

  9. #10132
    Quote Originally Posted by StlGamerDude  [View Original Post]
    Everyone has their 'type' they are willing to pay more for. I don't know who you're seeing for $200 an hour these days but I'd rather take care of myself then see any girl that I've seen advertise for $200 on any website in the St. Louis area in the last 2 years. IMO the whole point of paying is to get a girl you couldn't normally get.
    100% agree with this. I haven't gotten into paying $600+ yet, but I stick with traveling Eros girls for $350-$450. I personally don't see the point of paying for the girls less than that (with a few exceptions, but it's rare in STL). There's something deeply unsettling to me about paying to fuck a 5. Or worse.

  10. #10131
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthCityGuySt  [View Original Post]
    Having experienced a wide range of providers over the years, I can say that some of the best experiences have been with providers in the $200-$300 range. I've spent much more and while I haven't been disappointed per se, there was some level of regret thinking "I could have just paid $250 for so and so. " For me, $300 is the top end as I never felt it was worth it paying more with any provider. There are a lot of the best providers in St. Louis that fall in that range and just too much GPS in the higher price ranges in my experience.
    How many years have you been seeing escorts? I've been doing it for around 20 years now and while I agree the sweet spot for me had been around 300, in the last few years I've had to raise that to 400. Which I know some escorts who had been at 300 for a long time and now have raised their rates some. From their point of view 300 just doesn't go as far as it used to go to pay their regular bills and their costs of doing business like it used to.

  11. #10130

    Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthCityGuySt  [View Original Post]
    Having experienced a wide range of providers over the years, I can say that some of the best experiences have been with providers in the $200-$300 range. I've spent much more and while I haven't been disappointed per se, there was some level of regret thinking "I could have just paid $250 for so and so. " For me, $300 is the top end as I never felt it was worth it paying more with any provider. There are a lot of the best providers in St. Louis that fall in that range and just too much GPS in the higher price ranges in my experience.
    To each their own. My best and continued experience is in Chicago at 450 with amazing service, gorgeous, phenomenal body, 3 holes and not a clock in site.

  12. #10129

    Higher Priced Providers

    Quote Originally Posted by Colapo9421  [View Original Post]
    When I was new to the hobby those were the prices that I was paying also. What I learned over time is that it's not worth it to go over 300 per hr and for most ladies it's not worth it to go over 200 per hr. Going higher or lower more often than not yields poor service for the money spent.

    "Higher class women" often come with too many rules, "lower class women" often come with too many rules. You just need to do of research. Try to stick to the cute ones in smaller cities / towns and build some rapport with them. After a dream or two you can almost always get the lady to open up and offer things that she may not offer new clients. And depending on the rapport for no extra funds and sometimes even a discounted rate for being a repeat client. But it takes some research and a little bit of good rapport, and an understanding that the good ones in my experience only do this for 2 maybe 3 hrs then they get out of the life. So enjoy the good ones while you can. But I would never go back to spending that kind of money on any provider.
    Having experienced a wide range of providers over the years, I can say that some of the best experiences have been with providers in the $200-$300 range. I've spent much more and while I haven't been disappointed per se, there was some level of regret thinking "I could have just paid $250 for so and so. " For me, $300 is the top end as I never felt it was worth it paying more with any provider. There are a lot of the best providers in St. Louis that fall in that range and just too much GPS in the higher price ranges in my experience.

  13. #10128

    Advertising

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky697  [View Original Post]
    Having experienced a few of the Vixens; they are a refreshing breath of fresh air in St. Louis. Always fun, totally into experiences that will keep you coming back with great communication and punctuality. Go see any of them and enjoy!
    I thought there was a separate section for ads.

  14. #10127
    Quote Originally Posted by Colapo9421  [View Original Post]
    When I was new to the hobby those were the prices that I was paying also. What I learned over time is that it's not worth it to go over 300 per hr and for most ladies it's not worth it to go over 200 per hr. Going higher or lower more often than not yields poor service for the money spent.

    "Higher class women" often come with too many rules, "lower class women" often come with too many rules. You just need to do of research. Try to stick to the cute ones in smaller cities / towns and build some rapport with them. After a dream or two you can almost always get the lady to open up and offer things that she may not offer new clients. And depending on the rapport for no extra funds and sometimes even a discounted rate for being a repeat client. But it takes some research and a little bit of good rapport, and an understanding that the good ones in my experience only do this for 2 maybe 3 hrs then they get out of the life. So enjoy the good ones while you can. But I would never go back to spending that kind of money on any provider.
    Everyone has their 'type' they are willing to pay more for. I don't know who you're seeing for $200 an hour these days but I'd rather take care of myself then see any girl that I've seen advertise for $200 on any website in the St. Louis area in the last 2 years. IMO the whole point of paying is to get a girl you couldn't normally get.

  15. #10126

    Same mistake I made.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlixNik  [View Original Post]
    Exactly! I'm new to this, having only started to see providers at the beginning of the year, but I've already figured out that 600 is my limit. I've only seen a few that charged more, and the experience wasn't any different than those at 600. Based on what I've seen so far, 400 is the base for the higher-end girls (might be attractive but low effort), 500 is a good middle (attractive with average effort), and 600 is the sweet spot (attractive, affectionate, and fun). When I see some of the outrageously priced ads I wonder what they do different to justify it?
    When I was new to the hobby those were the prices that I was paying also. What I learned over time is that it's not worth it to go over 300 per hr and for most ladies it's not worth it to go over 200 per hr. Going higher or lower more often than not yields poor service for the money spent.

    "Higher class women" often come with too many rules, "lower class women" often come with too many rules. You just need to do of research. Try to stick to the cute ones in smaller cities / towns and build some rapport with them. After a dream or two you can almost always get the lady to open up and offer things that she may not offer new clients. And depending on the rapport for no extra funds and sometimes even a discounted rate for being a repeat client. But it takes some research and a little bit of good rapport, and an understanding that the good ones in my experience only do this for 2 maybe 3 hrs then they get out of the life. So enjoy the good ones while you can. But I would never go back to spending that kind of money on any provider.

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