Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

**Joseph1955** · 05-25-22 12:36

Originally Posted by Camhole [View Original Post]

Just to be clear that this is second hand information, but from what I've heard it has a different feel to it, a different odor and they can not self lubricate.

I've seen the two post op trans women discussed and a third that, in hind sight, likely was as well. These Thai women are pretty remarkable in that they transition someone born male into a very feminine figure; face, breasts, waist, ass and legs.

But the truth is I've been around many women over the years and have seen and known the wide range of female anatomy that exists in nature. As good as these post opt versions are, the after market equipment isn't the same as factory installed; the lack of natural lubricant effects the feel, taste and smell. The ability to recreate labia is pretty good but not perfect. And the clit is not at all the same in my opinion. The clit we're exposed to on women born female is just the tip of a much larger body part that is not exposed. These are obviously a reconstruction where the feel and response is also "reconstructed".

Having said all that, I found these providers charming and fun and desiring to please. However they do tend to manage the encounter in a way to take away attention from the differences. Low lighting, they're deliberate about avoiding certain positions, they maintain pubic hair to fuzz over the details, etc.

As far as this thread goes, all have been RBGFE and did not offer BBFS to me.

Oh, and Ive also seen Kim Saigon or whatever her name is: she's a well put together 40 something, definitely born female and still female. And definitely BBFS with Greek as well. She enjoys recording the act on her phone with your permission. She's expensive and wanted a deposit as well as a pre screen video chat. She said she required a recent STI report, but was consistent with every other women who's said they require it: once you pay the money, it's a non issue - they just wanna make sure you don't balk at the request. In the end, it's the money...and for her, she was great but far too expensive. But she is for sure born female and is a mother.

**RedFoxx20** · 05-25-22 01:14

The issue is y'alls mindsets. Hopefully it will change no one here is requiring anyone has sex with anyone else they do not want to, but think about your prejudices.

But I suppose I have similar prejudices. I assume most people on this thread are misogynists. And I'm right, save a few I am sure.

Originally Posted by BlackMarketBb [View Original Post]

Oh fuck right off with that transphobia bullshit. Arousal is mostly in the mind and I'm not aroused by biological men.

**BoboThe55** · 05-25-22 01:12

Originally Posted by BlackMarketBb [View Original Post]

Oh fuck right off with that transphobia bullshit. Arousal is mostly in the mind and I'm not aroused by biological men.

It's kinda like some dudes want to fuck other dudes, but they want them to look like females and they want everyone to join them so they don't feel weird about it. Why not just go to a glory hole and watch a video.

**BlackMarketBb** · 05-25-22 00:57

Originally Posted by RedFoxx20 [View Original Post]

She is a woman with a vagina and breasts, which is what I assume you are attracted to based on statements here. So yes. It is hard to understand the transphobia.

Oh fuck right off with that transphobia bullshit. Arousal is mostly in the mind and I'm not aroused by biological men.

**Camhole** · 05-24-22 23:01

Originally Posted by GreatdDane269 [View Original Post]

Curious, can anyone who has had the experience explain if there is a difference between 'original equipment' woman and post op trans woman?

Just to be clear that this is second hand information, but from what I've heard it has a different feel to it, a different odor and they can not self lubricate.

**DrtyHarry** · 05-24-22 18:46

Originally Posted by RedFoxx20 [View Original Post]

She is a woman with a vagina and breasts, which is what I assume you are attracted to based on statements here. So yes. It is hard to understand the transphobia.

It is not about Transphobia. It is about the hobbyists right to choose. She has a right to do what she wants with her body and also the right to her sexual preference, and the right to be respected for his / her choices. Similarly all hobbiests who see her and pay her for her services, have the right to make to up their own minds on weather they want to fuck him / her. It has nothing to do with a Phobia. It is a right to choose and there is no right and wrong answer here. Both parties should have the power to choose. If she in fact is a pre-op, then great more power to her. But if she decides to sex with a partner, she should disclose what she is. Why should her partners rights to make an informed decision be less important her right to identify? This whole thread seems to be off track with everyone pointing out what they prefer. This is not about preference, to me it is all about my right to know so I can exercise my right to choose.

**RedFoxx20** · 05-24-22 14:47

She is a woman with a vagina and breasts, which is what I assume you are attracted to based on statements here. So yes. It is hard to understand the transphobia.

Originally Posted by BlackMarketBb [View Original Post]

Because we don't want to have sex with a biological male, regardless of the artificial hole? Is that really difficult to understand?

**BlackMarketBb** · 05-24-22 14:29

Originally Posted by Solomon19 [View Original Post]

I don't understand why this matters if she is post-op. She is hot, identifies as a woman, and has a pussy. Looks like a very hot woman too. Why are you all so pressed about it?

Because we don't want to have sex with a biological male, regardless of the artificial hole? Is that really difficult to understand?

**DrtyHarry** · 05-24-22 13:32

Originally Posted by DrtyHarry [View Original Post]

Thank Info for the link. Shoot "her" pictures look hot. Funny thing is NOT one person on TNA has had the courage to post that she is possibly a post-op. Bobo is right. Someone needs to speak up if that is indeed true. The hobbiest does have a right to know who he is paying to spend time with.

Originally Posted by Solomon19 [View Original Post]

I don't understand why this matters if she is post-op. She is hot, identifies as a woman, and has a pussy. Looks like a very hot woman too. Why are you all so pressed about it?

My post was clear. It really does not matter how you or I feel about it, it is a personal choice that every hobbyist needs to make. She has every right to do what she wants with her body, and how she identifies herself. My point above is that the hobbyist should also have the choice to choose.

**GreatdDane269** · 05-24-22 13:07

Originally Posted by Solomon19 [View Original Post]

I don't understand why this matters if she is post-op. She is hot, identifies as a woman, and has a pussy. Looks like a very hot woman too. Why are you all so pressed about it?

Curious, can anyone who has had the experience explain if there is a difference between 'original equipment' woman and post op trans woman?

**BMoreDog69** · 05-23-22 21:39

I am not in Seattle, so there is no way I'd be seeing this provider. All I see is one not very high resolution photo, so I am curious about the basis for your comment.

Originally Posted by BoboThe55 [View Original Post]

That is a he. Correct link.

**DrtyHarry** · 05-23-22 21:00

Originally Posted by BoboThe55 [View Original Post]

There are several trans. Men posing as women on TNA and getting 400.00 hr. Someone needs to speak up celen2 cute is a guy with a man made vagaga. And several others from what I hear.

Originally Posted by InfoSurfer [View Original Post]

https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?548986-Celine2cute

Thank Info for the link. Shoot "her" pictures look hot. Funny thing is NOT one person on TNA has had the courage to post that she is possibly a post-op. Bobo is right. Someone needs to speak up if that is indeed true. The hobbiest does have a right to know who he is paying to spend time with.

**WangDang23** · 05-19-22 18:27

Nothing new for the community but new for me. I have had the worst run of trying to set up appointments lately. I have just a few ladies I see somewhat regularly and then I like to dabble now and then with someone new here and there. Trying to get an appointment with any of them is making me consider only using AMPs where I can just walk in when I want; No muss, no fuss. Here's some examples of what I'm dealing with:

Regular A: She is always late and I know that and plan for it. She is 1-2 hrs late every time. I am perfectly polite about it, we joke about it and I tell her that I know she'll be worth the wait. I've never been an ass about it because I know it won't change anything. We have always been very friendly. She always insists I stay a few hours even though I pay for one. We text on the side now and then. All good. Last week, I had to cancel our appointment because my truck broke down on the way there. We texted a little about it. I apologized for the inconvenience and told her I would reschedule asap. I got a "goodbye" and ghosted ever since. Seriously?! The one time I have something legit come up and she's out?!

Regular B: Same relationship except she is always on time. I asked her to give me a heads up next time she's in town so I can plan for a weekday visit. Instead she texts me 3 days into her stay on a Saturday. I couldn't do anything then. She then said she would make another trip up for me on a specific day. Cool. We planned a little, then ghosted. The day came and went, nothing. In her defense, she's had some crap to deal with the past couple months. So I mostly give her a pass. But a text would be nice.

Try someone new: She posts on Saturday morning "available all day". I text at about 5 that I am close by and can meet anytime before 9. She texts at 9:10 "can see you now". So far, no big deal. Timing didn't work out. I tell her I had just left the area and it would be too late by the time I could get to her. No response. I've tried 2 more times to set an appointment up with her, won't reply; even after she posts ads about being available all day.

2 other ladies that post ads daily and won't respond to my texts.

I have a good rep with good providers, I follow their directions for making contact, I'm polite, they all have great reputations here and on TNA, etc.

I guess business is good enough that they just don't give a shit anymore.

I give up. AMPs here I come. Unfortunately. Not much against them but I like a different vibe appointment than they provide.

**BBPornoGeek** · 05-19-22 11:27

Originally Posted by DrtyHarry [View Original Post]

Hell no. Photograph for what? I mean seriously how does a photo of the John make them feel any safer? This is really ridiculous. I would do the same as you. No way I would send a pic or pay a deposit for a appointment for any reason.

The pimp wants your picture so they can see which car belongs to you, then keep an eye on you as you go into the room. Something happens they don't like, they now have your picture, plates and can find out where you live, etc and for later blackmail money scheme.

**MartyByrde** · 05-19-22 11:24

Originally Posted by BillyKlub [View Original Post]

I reached out to a new provider who didn't have prices. She said she wouldn't discuss services and her pricing varied in the time length. No shit. What's the breakdown? Then she asks for my age, ethnicity and if I'm willing to FaceTime with her? I don't even know what she offers or how much why would anyone do that?

Understand completely. It 's almost as bad with these women asking for partial payment up front. No way Jose!