MSP Sugar

[Ryan33]

What's your point exactly?

I was going to say don't be such a fucking asshole, but looks like you are new so will try to give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess the point of the board is post information or experiences they want to share with others. This will hopefully help people have success on the various SB sites. Also, since these are experiences that can't always be shared with even the closest friends it is an outlet share them with others here.

We have enough trouble getting people to post on this board, so we don't need trolls or others questioning what is posted or discouraging people to post about their experiences either good or bad.

[PereUbu]

I will give you a status report. I have two current sugar babies. Baby X was fun to talk to until I learned that at times she feels the urge to check out. I suggested she get help and she said that won't happen. She resolved the issue for me by moving in with her sister and saying she didn't want to meet anymore because her sister would not approve of it. The other baby is young and extremely quiet. Intelligent. Sometimes less verbal communication is a good thing. The sex is awesome. There is another potential baby that I texted with 4 months ago and it didn't go anywhere. Recently I texted her from a different number. She is thick and curvy with a cute face and huge boobs. College-educated and started a job with a Fortune 500 company here in the Cities. She wants to meet in person. Not sure if I will yet.

What's your point exactly?

[Member #6100]

I will give you a status report. I have two current sugar babies. Baby X was fun to talk to until I learned that at times she feels the urge to check out. I suggested she get help and she said that won't happen. She resolved the issue for me by moving in with her sister and saying she didn't want to meet anymore because her sister would not approve of it. The other baby is young and extremely quiet. Intelligent. Sometimes less verbal communication is a good thing. The sex is awesome. There is another potential baby that I texted with 4 months ago and it didn't go anywhere. Recently I texted her from a different number. She is thick and curvy with a cute face and huge boobs. College-educated and started a job with a Fortune 500 company here in the Cities. She wants to meet in person. Not sure if I will yet.

I have been thinking about the some lately, trying to decide if it is a problem with them or me. At one time I could send out 15-20 messages and get maybe 6-10 legitimate responses, most of which could easily turn into face-to-face meeting If our schedules matched up. I could easily meet 3 or 4 in a week for happy hour or sometimes just coffee if I had time. Obviously, not all of them turned into arrangements.

Today if I send out 15-20 messages, I feel lucky if I get 1 or 2 legitimate responses and even those seem much less likely to go anywhere. It could have something to do with me, since I am older, and I maybe aged out of some of the younger ones. Could be my profile needs to update to attract more interest or my messaging skills, which were never that great, have diminished. I am also, picky on who I message, so might be I need to lower my sights some.

However, it is more likely as discussed in our last coupe posts that Seeking has changed so much that it is just that much more difficult to navigate the BS.

I really can't complain that much. I have a couple great situations over the last year, Although, 2 of them ended in unique ways.

I posted majority of this before and this an just an update, but I had the one that ended last July when she found a "boyfriend" on the Seeking. They ended up getting engaged after about 8 months and are scheduled to get married next summer. He is 52 and she is 22.

About that time, I somehow stumbled into an arrangement with a 21 yr. Old student. I knew I was lucky to be seeing her and figured it could end at any time, so I saw her as much as possible from July to December and I loved every minute of it. In January, she told me she had a death in the family and needed a break and would get back in touch with me when her life settled down.

I thought we were getting along well and would hear form her again, but apparently I was mistaken. She has not reached out to me or responded to my messages since January. She has recently become active on Seeking most days and has new pictures that seem to show she had her breasts enlarged. Which is unfortunate as her natural ones were amazing and do not think you could really improve on them. Certainly, no regrets with her just disappointed she would ghost me after seeing each other as often as we did over the 6-months. And no, I am not giving out her information, somethings I will keep to myself.

I am seeing a new one now that I started messaging well over a year ago. Her communication skills are incredibly bad. Also, not always the most dependable. A few years ago I probably would have quickly moved on from her for those reasons. But she is hot and is good in bed. So, I will try and keep seeing her occasionally until hopefully someone better comes along, which looks like it might take longer than it would in past.

[MrDAnimal]

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[PereUbu]

The first sign of any bullshit or bad attitude and I block them. There is 4 billion pussies on the planet that mostly feel the same. Just like I treat any other business in this day and age when business treats you like shit. It's one strike and Yer out a there!

Pussies are like snowflakes.

[Happtrav]

Have you noticed how the average age of the sugar babies on the site has increased? Used to be dominated by 18 to 23-year-old babies, but now it's mostly 25-35 babies.

Also, the number of woman with Queen, Princess, Need Spoiling, in their profiles have increased dramatically in the MSP area.

I do have to say, most 18 -23 yr old profiles are scams. And Seeking is doing a good job of kicking scammers off the site.

[Ryan33]

I had to send many messages on Seeking to find these ladies. I would say that if I send 100 messages I end up meeting in person 3 ladies. So it's a numbers game but of course, it's also about how you communicate on the site.

I have been thinking about the some lately, trying to decide if it is a problem with them or me. At one time I could send out 15-20 messages and get maybe 6-10 legitimate responses, most of which could easily turn into face-to-face meeting If our schedules matched up. I could easily meet 3 or 4 in a week for happy hour or sometimes just coffee if I had time. Obviously, not all of them turned into arrangements.

Today if I send out 15-20 messages, I feel lucky if I get 1 or 2 legitimate responses and even those seem much less likely to go anywhere. It could have something to do with me, since I am older, and I maybe aged out of some of the younger ones. Could be my profile needs to update to attract more interest or my messaging skills, which were never that great, have diminished. I am also, picky on who I message, so might be I need to lower my sights some.

However, it is more likely as discussed in our last coupe posts that Seeking has changed so much that it is just that much more difficult to navigate the BS.

I really can't complain that much. I have a couple great situations over the last year, Although, 2 of them ended in unique ways.

I posted majority of this before and this an just an update, but I had the one that ended last July when she found a "boyfriend" on the Seeking. They ended up getting engaged after about 8 months and are scheduled to get married next summer. He is 52 and she is 22.

About that time, I somehow stumbled into an arrangement with a 21 yr. Old student. I knew I was lucky to be seeing her and figured it could end at any time, so I saw her as much as possible from July to December and I loved every minute of it. In January, she told me she had a death in the family and needed a break and would get back in touch with me when her life settled down.

I thought we were getting along well and would hear form her again, but apparently I was mistaken. She has not reached out to me or responded to my messages since January. She has recently become active on Seeking most days and has new pictures that seem to show she had her breasts enlarged. Which is unfortunate as her natural ones were amazing and do not think you could really improve on them. Certainly, no regrets with her just disappointed she would ghost me after seeing each other as often as we did over the 6-months. And no, I am not giving out her information, somethings I will keep to myself.

I am seeing a new one now that I started messaging well over a year ago. Her communication skills are incredibly bad. Also, not always the most dependable. A few years ago I probably would have quickly moved on from her for those reasons. But she is hot and is good in bed. So, I will try and keep seeing her occasionally until hopefully someone better comes along, which looks like it might take longer than it would in past.

[MrDAnimal]

She has a new phone#.

Makes statements like "I get between 350-500 for every meeting".

She stopped responding because she got upset about a conversation we had. So, Anger issues?

Her number is up for grabs.

The first sign of any bullshit or bad attitude and I block them. There is 4 billion pussies on the planet that mostly feel the same. Just like I treat any other business in this day and age when business treats you like shit. It's one strike and Yer out a there!

[MrDAnimal]

That is interesting information. Your numbers are correct. However, if you sort all the profiles by recently active, I feel like the average age of recently active sugar babies has increased as compared to maybe a year ago.

The issues you mentioned are spot on. For those sugar babies that actually want to meet to get money to help with their finances, they focus too much on price and not enough on volume. They can't find anyone to meet with them for 500 but could have met with three guys already for 300. Then of course they often flake out and stop communicating after a meeting or two.

On an unrelated note, check out the verification videos on Secret Benefits. You don't need to pay anything to do that. Its shocking how the pictures can look great and then the video shows the baby is actually not attractive and / or seems to have an unpleasant personality.

So secret benefits videos help a lot. It is truly amazing how many women have these great pics and when you see the videos it's incredibly disappointing how ugly or no where close they are to the pics. These girls want money. Would they go to a job interview looking like horse shit? They have a 3 second video to make an impression and they do that. On the opposite side I have actually seen some where I wasn't interested and saw the video and it was great. I had one ppm date a few months ago with one I found like that.

Happy hunting.

MD.

[Member #6100]

As a percentage wise, I don't think I agree with that, but my opinion is the number of legitimate profiles has decreased dramatically over the last few years. When I first started in the site I tracked the number of profiles within 50 and 100 miles of Minneapolis. This was not a scientific process but would just pay attention to the numbers.

When I joined in 2015 there were about 6800 profiles within 50 miles of Minneapolis. That number grew somewhat steadily of the years and although I didn't record them I seem to recall the number reaching around 8500 and was over 10,000 if you expanded to 100 miles.

Then you have to account for fake or inactive profiles and those that were really not serious about and arrangement. I estimated this to be 25-30% of the overall profiles going back a few yrs.

Today there are 7460 profiles within 50 miles, which isn't that different. But the change is really in the number of legitimate profiles. Now you have to deal with:

1. Increase in fake / scam profiles.

2. Online only.

3. Selling pictures.

4. Platonic only (seriously, when the hell did that even become an option).

5. Increase in number of professional escorts.

6. Inactive / not serious about an arrangement profiles.

With all of that I am not even sure how to estimate the percentage these profiles account for, but I would say it is at least 45-50% and it could be higher. So, overall there is a big decrease in opportunities even though you see the same number of profiles when you search.

At one time I also knew the number of male profiles and the ratio was very favorable for men I seem to recall about 4. 5 to 1 after adjusting for the fakes / inactive on both sides. I have not checked that in quite awhile, so don't have a clue on the current ratio currently.

As for the age groups you mention there are in the 18-23 group there are 3146 and the 25-35 have 3009, so not sure that ratio had changed that much over the years. However there might be more BS profiles in the younger group, there are so many of them it is really had to say.

I have been considering posting something on my perspective on other changes to Seeking over my time on the site and might put something together in the near future.

That is interesting information. Your numbers are correct. However, if you sort all the profiles by recently active, I feel like the average age of recently active sugar babies has increased as compared to maybe a year ago.

The issues you mentioned are spot on. For those sugar babies that actually want to meet to get money to help with their finances, they focus too much on price and not enough on volume. They can't find anyone to meet with them for 500 but could have met with three guys already for 300. Then of course they often flake out and stop communicating after a meeting or two.

On an unrelated note, check out the verification videos on Secret Benefits. You don't need to pay anything to do that. Its shocking how the pictures can look great and then the video shows the baby is actually not attractive and / or seems to have an unpleasant personality.

[Happtrav]

SA Games happening again.

SN: Exploringblonde.

Comes across as an Entitled Brat.

DM me for her contact info.

She has a new phone#.

Makes statements like "I get between 350-500 for every meeting".

She stopped responding because she got upset about a conversation we had. So, Anger issues?

Her number is up for grabs.

[Ryan33]

Have you noticed how the average age of the sugar babies on the site has increased? Used to be dominated by 18 to 23-year-old babies, but now it's mostly 25-35 babies.

As a percentage wise, I don't think I agree with that, but my opinion is the number of legitimate profiles has decreased dramatically over the last few years. When I first started in the site I tracked the number of profiles within 50 and 100 miles of Minneapolis. This was not a scientific process but would just pay attention to the numbers.

When I joined in 2015 there were about 6800 profiles within 50 miles of Minneapolis. That number grew somewhat steadily of the years and although I didn't record them I seem to recall the number reaching around 8500 and was over 10,000 if you expanded to 100 miles.

Then you have to account for fake or inactive profiles and those that were really not serious about and arrangement. I estimated this to be 25-30% of the overall profiles going back a few yrs.

Today there are 7460 profiles within 50 miles, which isn't that different. But the change is really in the number of legitimate profiles. Now you have to deal with:

1. Increase in fake / scam profiles.

2. Online only.

3. Selling pictures.

4. Platonic only (seriously, when the hell did that even become an option).

5. Increase in number of professional escorts.

6. Inactive / not serious about an arrangement profiles.

With all of that I am not even sure how to estimate the percentage these profiles account for, but I would say it is at least 45-50% and it could be higher. So, overall there is a big decrease in opportunities even though you see the same number of profiles when you search.

At one time I also knew the number of male profiles and the ratio was very favorable for men I seem to recall about 4. 5 to 1 after adjusting for the fakes / inactive on both sides. I have not checked that in quite awhile, so don't have a clue on the current ratio currently.

As for the age groups you mention there are in the 18-23 group there are 3146 and the 25-35 have 3009, so not sure that ratio had changed that much over the years. However there might be more BS profiles in the younger group, there are so many of them it is really had to say.

I have been considering posting something on my perspective on other changes to Seeking over my time on the site and might put something together in the near future.

[Member #6100]

Have you noticed how the average age of the sugar babies on the site has increased? Used to be dominated by 18 to 23-year-old babies, but now it's mostly 25-35 babies.

[ParkingGuy]

Was able to connect with a pretty good one last week. I had planned on seeing ElleT, but she never responded to messages till 9 pm while I was waiting to meet a new SB.

Bandanagirl.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...a-48579d8eb663

BBFS and BBJCIM. I was the first guy she met so she charged a little more than what I usually do, but seemed to be down to do less since she felt more comfortable with the situation and that she did not get murdered. LOL Had a good time, was straightforward. She knows what we are here for and holds up her end of the deal.

Prior to meeting her this one wanted 400 for a BJ. LOL.

StrawbryFields4 ever.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-5f91e98bb18e

I believe StrawberryFields4 ever has been on and off the site several times. See pic. I believe one of her more recent screen names was "SushiFlower" or something like that. I never met her in person but had a very negative experience with her via texting. I messaged her recently but then blocked her once I realized who she was. Assuming I have the right person, she has had a lot of negative feedback on this site.

[Ccbb1]

Was able to connect with a pretty good one last week. I had planned on seeing ElleT, but she never responded to messages till 9 pm while I was waiting to meet a new SB.

Bandanagirl.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...a-48579d8eb663

BBFS and BBJCIM. I was the first guy she met so she charged a little more than what I usually do, but seemed to be down to do less since she felt more comfortable with the situation and that she did not get murdered. LOL Had a good time, was straightforward. She knows what we are here for and holds up her end of the deal.

Prior to meeting her this one wanted 400 for a BJ. LOL.

StrawbryFields4 ever.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...f-5f91e98bb18e