Rants, Raves, and Opinions

**Dr Manhattan** · 05-01-22 13:49

Originally Posted by MuffDiver17 [View Original Post]

I agree we shouldn't be telling on eachother, but you're an ignorant fellow if you think these girls don't already read the forum.

Guys get desperate. I had a UTR situation almost blow-up on me, because one member went out of his way to ask her why she'll see me... and not him. He must've really described our arrangement to a "T," based on our inbox conversations. She was baffled why some guy knew exactly who I was, yet I had zero idea who he was. Some men don't think logistically when urges light a real fire in their pants.

PRO TIP: Don't ever do that to other members.

**HuntingStreets** · 05-01-22 09:59

Originally Posted by MuffDiver17 [View Original Post]

I agree we shouldn't be telling on eachother, but you're an ignorant fellow if you think these girls don't already read the forum.

Correct. Even the streetwalkers know about it. And the dealers that run the traphouses read the posts as well.

HS.

**MuffDiver17** · 04-30-22 23:45

Originally Posted by Coyote7033 [View Original Post]

Whoever told her about my post, and there's a site that guys chat about them Hope your HAPPY. Really, try and help people out and donkeys like you cause all kinds of problems and make the guys who do share info not want to share stuff again because you do crap like that. Nice real nice. Hope your proud of yourself. UNREAL.

I agree we shouldn't be telling on eachother, but you're an ignorant fellow if you think these girls don't already read the forum.

**MilwNightFun** · 04-29-22 22:32

Originally Posted by Coyote7033 [View Original Post]

Whoever told her about my post, and there's a site that guys chat about them Hope your HAPPY. Really, try and help people out and donkeys like you cause all kinds of problems and make the guys who do share info not want to share stuff again because you do crap like that. Nice real nice. Hope your proud of yourself. UNREAL.

Gave up on my premium senior membershop. You can't trust anyone out here. Their worse than the slores.

**HornyTfs** · 04-29-22 16:17

Originally Posted by Coyote7033 [View Original Post]

Whoever told her about my post, and there's a site that guys chat about them Hope your HAPPY. Really, try and help people out and donkeys like you cause all kinds of problems and make the guys who do share info not want to share stuff again because you do crap like that. Nice real nice. Hope your proud of yourself. UNREAL.

Maybe this burned your bridges with her, happened to me couple of times in past as well but at least she was not open to seeing you anyhow, you can take solace in that.

That is the reason I do not share specific details of my conversation with any woman on here so that it does not come back to me. I have an inner circle and only with them I share all the details and it has worked well for me.

**RayDonovan2000** · 04-29-22 15:43

I just posted about the same exact issue with Clementine. What the fuck are guys thinking? Complete ass clowns.

Originally Posted by Coyote7033 [View Original Post]

Whoever told her about my post, and there's a site that guys chat about them Hope your HAPPY. Really, try and help people out and donkeys like you cause all kinds of problems and make the guys who do share info not want to share stuff again because you do crap like that. Nice real nice. Hope your proud of yourself. UNREAL.

**Coyote7033** · 04-29-22 15:06

Whoever told her about my post, and there's a site that guys chat about them Hope your HAPPY. Really, try and help people out and donkeys like you cause all kinds of problems and make the guys who do share info not want to share stuff again because you do crap like that. Nice real nice. Hope your proud of yourself. UNREAL.

**SoccerFan4245** · 04-20-22 08:24

No it isn't Greta. That has been mentioned before. I know Greta. This girl has an older child, not an infant like Greta. If you get her to accept your friend request, you will definitely see it is not Greta. She has several photos but blocked from non-friends. I know her real name too.

Originally Posted by MilMong [View Original Post]

That's candy / greta. Cute spinner before drugs got her but now I'd avoid.

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**SoccerFan4245** · 04-19-22 22:53

Sorry but no it's not. Looks similar though. You'd have to see more picks on her profile.

Originally Posted by MilMong [View Original Post]

That's candy / greta. Cute spinner before drugs got her but now I'd avoid.

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**MilMong** · 04-19-22 20:55

That's candy / greta. Cute spinner before drugs got her but now I'd avoid.

**SoccerFan4245** · 04-19-22 17:24

I have been in this game for several years. I've met a couple of skip the games girls, but the ladies on the street and met a few on social media. These are all ladies where we knew where they stood and what they were looking for. What couple of months ago I took on the challenge of reaching out to someone I thought was really cute on Facebook. I had asked her whether she fooled around with older married men. She responded, "probably". From that point forward I was on a quest. There was a delay because she was moving from Waukesha to Milwaukee. She also said that she was not going to do anything because she needed to get back on birth control.

During the next following weeks, we chatted online and she explained that she has been hiding from 2 ex-boyfriend's. She said that when she moves to Milwaukee, she does not want anyone to know where she lives. Out of the blue one day, she asked when do I want to do it! She said that she could come to my house but that wasn't going to happen as far as I was concerned. Then she said we could get a room. She works as a housekeeper at one of local motels and she could get a decent rate. Neither options were of interest to me. After a bit longer, she relented and said that I could come see her at her new place. I had to swear to everything holy that I would not share her address with anyone, and I would not have.

Soon after she has a change of heart and say that it is too risky for anyone to know her address. After a little back-and-forth on messenger and on the phone, it appeared she was going to reconsider. During one of our conversations, I referred to myself by my real name. This name is obviously different than the Facebook page she has been dealing with. It was a surprise to me that this was a dealbreaker. She said that since I was using a different name and profile picture on my Facebook page, I could not be trusted. I was so close.

I tell this long story for the sole reason that I think she is ripe for the picking. She made it clear that she would have gotten with me for 100. Everything would've been bareback. We were just negotiating the final location of the deed. Unbeknownst to me she would go dark because I didn't share who I was upfront. From my experience, I didn't think it would matter because she needs the money. Apparently I was quite wrong.

**SmokinAcee** · 04-13-22 11:17

Originally Posted by BagelFish [View Original Post]

I've been mongering now for over 5 years. I usually lurk but I post my adventures when I find a nice cougar / gilf / older ladies that I sampled.

There's a magical price range for women to figure out and stay at.

If you are young / new gal to the biz but are a tad below average. If you do half an hours for 80-100? You'll be able to bring in about 400-500 seeing only 5 guys a day. If you are actually attractive and really are good at sex? You can bump it up to maybe 120-150 an half hour. See 5 guys and make up to 600-750 a day. If you are an hourly type of lady that can tolerate long stints with guys? If you are in the average / not ugly tier and are good at it? You can do 150-175 an hour. If you see 3-4 guys. 450-700 a day. Attractive tier plus skills is 200-250 an hr. 3-4 guys a day? 600-1000 dollars a day.

Now I'm not going to enter the higher tiers because if women are that hot and sexy? They have the edge. But for the girls that don't break the mean in looks for the average woman nor have any good sex skills? Man. I feel like some of these girls are either working too hard and / or some are pricing themselves out. I feel like for the ladies that offer a discount for a longer stay? You'll get some nice bonus days where you can afford to chop off one guy per day to relax. However, I also understand that if you are hotel hopping you might need to be firm on your per hour fee.

I understand all of these little factors that can determine a price. Yet we are getting ladies that are quite frankly are overpriced for the Wisconsin market and recently even overpricing themselves for even Chicago's market. These ladies have it hard and I know that they need every dollar that they can make. However, the game must be played correctly even if you are in the mindset of feeling underpaid especially with inflation going on right now..

There are so many factors to this "game".

Lots of these girls live from city to to city, hotel to hotel. Daily expense could go from 40 $ to 4000 $. The halfway decent / rational ones who are doing this because they actual need the money (not money for their habbits) get out of the game quickly after a few months to a year and find some dude unbenounced to settle down with. If she been around for years, she might be able to clean up nicely but likely has a habit. A habit makes a rational sane mind irrelevant. They either turn into legitimate h0 es or low level criminals, usually a combination of the both.

The going rate is an unwritten rule, a set standard that these girls know. Legitimate h0 es know this and don't usually argue with it. Doesn't matter how hot or ugly she is, the rate is set. The girls who argue or try and say "they are worth it" are full of it and are simply trying to extort as much money out of you as they can. These girls should be nexted almost immediately. You do this and the cream will always rise to the top. For instant the girls you listed all have decent track record with a good thing going. Any girl advertising on STG asking for more then 150 $ for hh is either being trafficked or is clearly insane and shouldn't even be on you radar.

The worst place right now to find h0 es is STG (better yet any internet site), it's nothing but low level criminals luring men into their crack dens. Not saying its all bad but 95% of it is garbage. I've meet champagne a month back of STG and she was "ok" but still rotten and nothing to ride home about. At this point STG is the worst thing to happen to the game since they shut down BP and it doesn't make any sense because they are essentially the same site. Marry Fox is even laughable at 300, when 10 years ago on BP she would have been a 80 HH h0 e.

Maybe we all need to come to grips and realize the game is the same but the players have changed, it's now a bunch of old retired men spending the last of their money, inflating prices on sub par WGs and has turned into a low level hustle for these girls.

**BagelFish** · 04-13-22 00:00

I've been mongering now for over 5 years. I usually lurk but I post my adventures when I find a nice cougar / gilf / older ladies that I sampled.

There's a magical price range for women to figure out and stay at.

If you are young / new gal to the biz but are a tad below average. If you do half an hours for 80-100? You'll be able to bring in about 400-500 seeing only 5 guys a day. If you are actually attractive and really are good at sex? You can bump it up to maybe 120-150 an half hour. See 5 guys and make up to 600-750 a day. If you are an hourly type of lady that can tolerate long stints with guys? If you are in the average / not ugly tier and are good at it? You can do 150-175 an hour. If you see 3-4 guys. 450-700 a day. Attractive tier plus skills is 200-250 an hr. 3-4 guys a day? 600-1000 dollars a day.

Now I'm not going to enter the higher tiers because if women are that hot and sexy? They have the edge. But for the girls that don't break the mean in looks for the average woman nor have any good sex skills? Man. I feel like some of these girls are either working too hard and / or some are pricing themselves out. I feel like for the ladies that offer a discount for a longer stay? You'll get some nice bonus days where you can afford to chop off one guy per day to relax. However, I also understand that if you are hotel hopping you might need to be firm on your per hour fee.

I understand all of these little factors that can determine a price. Yet we are getting ladies that are quite frankly are overpriced for the Wisconsin market and recently even overpricing themselves for even Chicago's market. These ladies have it hard and I know that they need every dollar that they can make. However, the game must be played correctly even if you are in the mindset of feeling underpaid especially with inflation going on right now.

For example, I'm mainly seeing Rayna because she's a nice older lady that syncs really well with me and we have a good price for doing everything I like within 2 hours. I honestly want these women in this business to do the best they can at money but there's also a few things they also got to understand. Guys within an area just aren't going to pay a certain price on you majority of the time. I look at tryst and I see plenty of women priced WAY higher than Rayna, Kendall Snow, Kat Snow, and sometimes certain girls even in Chicago that I've seen or heard of and don't even have the skills, looks or good reputation they have. I'm not saying that women got to start at a specific dollar amount at each stage of their escort career but it's just ridiculous for me to expect someone at 300-350 an hour and Mary Fox just outclasses them at that price completely and don't have a matching resume or similar tier of looks.

Lots of ladies have really figured out how to keep the market in their favor yet a majority end up losing customers on price. Not on skills, interactions, or loss of chemistry. Price ranges matter and the ladies got to rethink their strategies quite a bit moving forward. That's the end of my opinion post.

Disclaimer: I'm not here to promote these woman in my examples. I'm just using them as reference because many of us have seen them and in general have positive reputations. Each lady should be seen and judged for yourself because everyone is different at the end of the day.

P.S. I do think prices differ from Milwaukee, Madison, Oshkosh, Green Bay from rural areas. Every place has their own market. Also there's a big ass recession creeping up. The ladies better get their pricing figured out quickly before the market forces them to quit.

**AsiaPhileJake1** · 04-06-22 18:34

It seems obvious to me that the shit is getting pretty deep in the massage forum. I've been visiting these places a long time. Not all but most of one members reports seems to be complete bull shit from my experience. Perhaps spent too much time reading Penthouse letters back in the day. It's just my observation and opinion.

**AsiaPhileJake1** · 04-06-22 02:36

Originally Posted by LifeGuy [View Original Post]

I would like to know how many of you out there are like me? I can't seem to be able to stop going to these AMPs and the slores even when the pickings are so bad. I travel quite a bite for work all over the country so I do get to sample all the finer fare in different states but when I'm not traveling I still can't stop. The little head always wins out. Am I the only sick fuck?

Lifeguy out.

No you're not the only one. I'm not near as addicted as I was. I remember visiting two different AMPs in one day when the girl I was hoping to see was rotating around in 3 different establishments. Some of you probably remember the three. Plus I was always on the hunt looking at wants out there and different experiences. I've cut back considerably. I've just found this young thing, I mean young for what we have grown accustomed to and she has become a pretty good sport. No FS yet, she keeps saying she saving that part for god knows. Such a beautiful, tight, clean tasting little thing it's very difficult not to pay a visit.

Thank you for the laugh and the post you sick fuck.