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  1. #19108

    Hyde

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenHyde  [View Original Post]
    Getting bareback services is actually pretty easy and can be boiled down to a formula. If you're waiting for it to get offered to you, however, find a comfortable place to wait because you will likely be waiting for a long time unless you are seeing some 18-year-old from listcrawler. This is how to get bareback: first, see the provider several times before even bringing it up. Establish a rapport with the provider by being cool and laid back, having casual conversation and showing a genuine interest in their lives and persons, and always tip much more than is expected. Do this and they will soon think of you as being their favorite regular. Then, second, bring up bare after you have forged that personal relationship. Mention that you would pay extra, that you never do it with anyone else, and that it would really help you perform because condoms ruin the experience for you. Third, and lastly, make it seem as if it may be a deal breaker if they don't offer it. By this time, you have seen them enough times that they are accustomed to having your donation as part of their income. In other words they're somewhat financially dependent on keeping you happy. The provider will want to keep you as a client and will rationalize it because they think of you as being different from the other clients that are not as familiar or as good of tippers. Now there is certainly a pretty major caveat here, and that is that if the girl does not like you for any reason then this will not work. If you are fat, smell funny, have a horrible personality, or have any other traits that may turn her off then you are out of luck. But, if you have cultivated a degree of chemistry, and like I said economic incentives, then she may break her own rules for you while keeping them hard and fast for all the other chumps. Admittedly, this takes a degree of game, you have to be a salesperson of sorts. But I have got this down to an art, and I know that several other guys on this forum have pulled it off on a regular basis too. So my advice if you would like to receive such a service is to follow the formula. This takes time and some skill, but will work a lot better than expecting the provider to offer it to you. A small group of guys and myself have discussed this through private messages, and we have come to the conclusion that every provider makes this exception for certain clients. Based on my personal experience, I would say this is a fact. I've seen hundreds of ladies during my 20 years of mongering, and would say that 95% of them will do it. Good luck and happy hobbying.
    I agree that it's doesn't sound like rape either.

    But there are some things in the post that certainly do not resonate with my experience. Hyde sees a lot more providers than I and seeks a different kind of service. But the girls I see certainly have not been feeble minded enough to be manipulated. Nor do they seem like they would be willing to compromise their standards due to loyalty and charm.

    Take Scarlett for example. There was a point a few months ago where I was pretty regular with her, like every other week. But recently I've stopped seeing her because, like 95% of the population, I'm not masking in public, which means I would fail her screening. Despite her struggles to build up her client base, she did not make an exception for me and has lost quite a bit of income because of it. And that's okay. Even though I think the policy is over the top, I'm not resentful. I actually respect it. These girls are assuming most of the risk: legal, health, safety and otherwise, and I don't know all of her personal vulnerabilities.

    The couple of girls that I've been the most regular with over the past year have been secure, confident, determined women. Some guys are threatened by intelligent women but that's a huge turn on in my book. My providers certainly appreciate respectful and loyal customers like me. But it's not like they NEED me. We're all replaceable.

  2. #19107
    Quote Originally Posted by RHornyBoy  [View Original Post]
    This Hyde guy sounds a little like Recap from the old board.
    Recap was amazing. I used to sit down with a glass of wine and jazz music playing in the background and read his wonderful stories he'd post. Just so entertaining without him realizing it. What a nut.

  3. #19106

    Re: Steven Hyde

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenHyde  [View Original Post]
    No idea who recap is but I'm not him. I'm just a monger that wears my heart on my sleeve. I don't care if I trigger the white knights or piss off providers. I just enjoy sharing my experiences and reading about yours. When I lived in the metro east I used the print edition of the River Front Times to find hookers LOL. Then Backpage and CL were my go to. I moved to Colorado for a few years and continued to use BP. After I moved back to STL Backpage got taken down and I stumbled upon this site. I used the handle Spearhead 69 for awhile until a provider started cyber stalling me so I made a new account with Steven Hyde a few years ago. My old Spearhead69 posts are now Member #5866. If you've read my past posts then you know I've seen about every provider around many times, from the east side clubs and AMPs to the worst and finest the city has to offer. Hopefully you guys can appreciate what I have to offer and not just presuppose I'm a pimp with an agenda. I do understand why one would make that assumption though. I've had similar thoughts about some of you from time to time too LOL. Anyway, for better or for worse, that's my story.
    Steven,

    I understand and totally believe you Steven. You and I as well as others I conversed with over the 4 years I have been hobbying. I have an amazingly beautiful other other half in life that well let me to this after slower times. I am well off and yes I am and have been a white nigh to some locals, but now mainly high end out of town girls. I have been very much offered said services over a handful of times from both and it is not just about the $$the connection and how you treat these women has a lot to do with it. Yes I know what they are and what we are going to them for. When I first started out in this hobby I stayed with the best in the Lou for a couple years and got way too close. Anyway I hope I do not piss anyone off. This is still about haveing fun. Thanks guys.

  4. #19105

    This Hyde Guy

    Quote Originally Posted by RHornyBoy  [View Original Post]
    I am not looking to bareback any provider my comment was tongue in cheek so to speak. Just think some of these new guys posting are possibly Lake or someone like that to stir things up. I could be wrong I have seen most of the Angels over the last year and it has never been offered and I never ask.

    This Hyde guy sounds a little like Recap from the old board.
    No idea who recap is but I'm not him. I'm just a monger that wears my heart on my sleeve. I don't care if I trigger the white knights or piss off providers. I just enjoy sharing my experiences and reading about yours. When I lived in the metro east I used the print edition of the River Front Times to find hookers LOL. Then Backpage and CL were my go to. I moved to Colorado for a few years and continued to use BP. After I moved back to STL Backpage got taken down and I stumbled upon this site. I used the handle Spearhead 69 for awhile until a provider started cyber stalling me so I made a new account with Steven Hyde a few years ago. My old Spearhead69 posts are now Member #5866. If you've read my past posts then you know I've seen about every provider around many times, from the east side clubs and AMPs to the worst and finest the city has to offer. Hopefully you guys can appreciate what I have to offer and not just presuppose I'm a pimp with an agenda. I do understand why one would make that assumption though. I've had similar thoughts about some of you from time to time too LOL. Anyway, for better or for worse, that's my story.

  5. #19104

    Sunny day

    There is no extras beyond HJ I repeat HJ only. Wasn't even good roaming.

  6. #19103
    Quote Originally Posted by Elnino1978  [View Original Post]
    I was just there Wed. And all went well. Good massage then on flip, HJ with no hesitation. Only roaming on outside clothes, any attempt under was met with backing away.

    Overall good and friendly, but as said, no hint of anything other than HJ.

    ElNino.
    How were the looks. I was at relax over a month ago and she was older and the only one working there. Are the new workers younger and more numerous?

  7. #19102

    Sunny Day

    I was just there Wed. And all went well. Good massage then on flip, HJ with no hesitation. Only roaming on outside clothes, any attempt under was met with backing away.

    Overall good and friendly, but as said, no hint of anything other than HJ.

    ElNino.

    Quote Originally Posted by DerDeered  [View Original Post]
    I agree. I may go check it out and report back but that is unheard of on the MO side.

  8. #19101

    Stud Muffin

    Quote Originally Posted by TMan1847  [View Original Post]
    I don't know. We've seen several of the same women. A couple times I've mentioned your name and they have responded, "You mean Stud Muffin".

    I think your selling yourself short.
    Thanks for the kind words although I'm not entirely sure I believe you!

  9. #19100
    Quote Originally Posted by StlGuy1950  [View Original Post]
    Barrett Station Road and Manchester. Previously BLDS and Relax. Have to admit I have not been there since becoming Sunny Day. I have been going to quite a few AMP's over the years and have never had some of above items on the table. (Chen was the best) HE sure, MT, under the cover roaming you bet. But BBBJ, FS, prostrate I would be very surprised. And this board would be lighting up like crazy if that was the case. Fellow mongers would be lining up at the door for FS on this side of the river. Just saying.
    I agree. I may go check it out and report back but that is unheard of on the MO side.

  10. #19099

    Sunny Day Spa

    Quote Originally Posted by StCharlesTool2  [View Original Post]
    The old BLDS location now called Sunny Day Spa has Cici from classic and Cici from Chen Sheng working there. Names may differ depending on where you know them. HE, prostrate, BBBJ, MT and FS are on the table. Don't expect much massage here and bring lots of cash.
    Barrett Station Road and Manchester. Previously BLDS and Relax. Have to admit I have not been there since becoming Sunny Day. I have been going to quite a few AMP's over the years and have never had some of above items on the table. (Chen was the best) HE sure, MT, under the cover roaming you bet. But BBBJ, FS, prostrate I would be very surprised. And this board would be lighting up like crazy if that was the case. Fellow mongers would be lining up at the door for FS on this side of the river. Just saying.

  11. #19098

    Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by Wfhff14  [View Original Post]
    Trying to set up a new booking with her, I felt I should have passed her screening with flying colors but she is insisting on me wearing a mask for the entire visit, which I don't have a huge problem with, but it isn't ideal if things get intimate. Is it normal for her, or am I just ugly and she doesn't want to see my face? Household members are vaxxed / boosted and mask in public. I understand being cautious but if she's that concerned, why does she even bother offering the service?
    COVID not end yet. It's normal for her to ask you to wear a mask. You should take it easy. Be cautious and happy. Asking you to wear a mask has nothing to do with your appearance. You don't need to struggle.

  12. #19097
    Quote Originally Posted by KatChaser  [View Original Post]
    Lame ass massage there at Sun li, I will never go back, on that the girl got offended when I would not DIY! That's what she was for, if I wanted to wank myself I can stay home and do that and not waste a door fee on her lame ass. I left, did she get a tip Absolutely Not! For what. Save your money.
    Ditto here. I often see certain names giving glowing reviews of specific AMPs but never have any luck. I think they are affiliated to the AMPs and looking to drum up buisness. If I wanted to diy I could stay home watch porn and save the moolah. Nothing worse then a crappy lame attempt at a massage followed with "you do, you do". They can't give an actual massage but want 40 bucks for pinching your nipple and letting you rub one off. If the massage is good I'll reflect that with a decent tip even if they do not offer up the HJ and let me play with the tittys. If they choose to then I will make it worth their time for making me happy and relaxed.

  13. #19096
    Quote Originally Posted by SparkySmith  [View Original Post]
    The only thing they are guilty of is trying to upsell more time.

    Of all the AMPs this is one of the few I never had any luck at. Will be interested to see what turns up.

  14. #19095

    Pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by HentaiNerd  [View Original Post]
    Any chance I could get a ballpark range, particularly for FS. And I'm kind of new to the game, what does MT mean?
    MT. Mutual Touch. Her hands go on you, your hands on her. For an AMP that usually means her pants stay on. Under or over the clothes varies. Read the reviews. Know that these ladies have long memories. Your first visit might be somewhat fun. Your second visit FUN with more fun for frequent fliers. With that, if she asks you if you have been there before, YOU HAVE.

    Megan https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...660614-358446/ and Angela https://adultsearch.com/missouri/sai...scorts/1610274 offer FS in the 200-300 range. Bring 200 and see what happens.

    I have never gotten more than a handshake from an AMP in St. Louis. East side, other places, yes.

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