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  1. #21196

    What the hey?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zcochran00  [View Original Post]
    The one thing I can say is that it's possible to dig into the tools they're using to show the UI contents in the browser (React and Redux) and extract some more detailed info on user profiles and messages than what gets shown on screen, like the time that a message was actually viewed. I wrote a little browser "userscript" addon that adds an "Export Profile" button to a page that grabs the user profile data and lets me save it to a file, and another script that downloads profile pics if I want to save them. But, the really juicy info of message contents when you're not premium is no longer in there.
    I'm sure this means something to somebody, but to me it's Martian! Thank you, Z, for replying in any case. It was fun while it lasted.

    Happy hunting all!

    Scott.

  2. #21195

    Recruiting SBs in the Wild

    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    As I said, I have a SO, it isn't prudent for me to be 'out there' so much -- someone could be just exactly the person I don't want to approach.

    In my view, those who are married should not take the risk of finding SBs on the hoof.
    I totally agree with one caveat. When I was married I would only do my SB hunting far from home. Now I do it anywhere I please. I like my GF but I can always get another one without giving my present GF half my stuff. LOL.

    Yourself, somehow you got identified IRL by a SB. This failure of opsec is absolutely unacceptable for the married men on SA. I hear that around 40% of men on the site are married, IDK what proportion put that on their profiles. I do.
    You misread my post. I was threatened to be outed to my GF and my family not by a SB (none of whom know anything personally about me), but rather by a horny housewife I was seeing on the side for free. When a woman with whom you have bumped-uglies knows your identity, you are at her mercy if you piss her off.

    I have been in the bowl for 4+ years, and have had 3 long term (6+ months) arrangements, and I have never been found out.
    I have been mongering for many years: SWs, UTRs, SBs. I used to count them but it now numbers in the hundreds. I have never had an outing problem with anyone I paid. It's the free tail who knew my name that almost bit me on the ass. If you are married, I believe that paying for it is far less risky than having some "for free" on the side. The old maxim applies that the tail you get "for free" can wind up being the most expensive tail ever. That includes being married and getting caught cheating when married.

  3. #21194

    SA loophole

    Hey all,

    Thanks for the quick replies! Sorry there is no longer a free way to see those messages. Guess I'll just have to bite the bullet.

    Cheers,

    Scott.

    P.S. Far Far, good to see you're still active. Tally ho!

  4. #21193
    Quote Originally Posted by FScott  [View Original Post]
    Hey Z,

    Does this process still work, or did SA fix the loophole? Is there a new procedure for getting access to messages without upgrading? I've been off SA for a while, and have racked up some messages from contacts that I'd love to see without paying the new, higher, fees.

    Thanks for your time and efforts.

    Scott.
    No, their developers unfortunately wised up a while back and stopped sending back all the message contents.

    The one thing I can say is that it's possible to dig into the tools they're using to show the UI contents in the browser (React and Redux) and extract some more detailed info on user profiles and messages than what gets shown on screen, like the time that a message was actually viewed. I wrote a little browser "userscript" addon that adds an "Export Profile" button to a page that grabs the user profile data and lets me save it to a file, and another script that downloads profile pics if I want to save them. But, the really juicy info of message contents when you're not premium is no longer in there.

  5. #21192
    Quote Originally Posted by FScott  [View Original Post]
    Hey Z,

    Does this process still work, or did SA fix the loophole? Is there a new procedure for getting access to messages without upgrading? I've been off SA for a while, and have racked up some messages from contacts that I'd love to see without paying the new, higher, fees.

    Thanks for your time and efforts.

    Scott.
    No, it does not work anymore and have not seen another way in.

  6. #21191
    Quote Originally Posted by FScott  [View Original Post]
    Hey Z,

    Does this process still work, or did SA fix the loophole? Is there a new procedure for getting access to messages without upgrading? I've been off SA for a while, and have racked up some messages from contacts that I'd love to see without paying the new, higher, fees.

    Thanks for your time and efforts.

    Scott.
    Scott! Welcome back. Long time gone!!

    Nope, this loophole was done before COVID. No workarounds that IK of.

  7. #21190

    Does this still work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zcochran00  [View Original Post]
    I'm a programmer, and I spend a good portion of my time doing web development. I've noted that SA has been rewriting portions of their site from a traditional "click link, wait for server return the new page" style to a "single-page application" approach. Turns out that due to some rather silly programming choices on their part, it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.

    It involves opening up your browser's "development tools" window so you can inspect the contents of the page and the data being requested, and should work in either Chrome or Firefox.

    Log in to SA and go to your inbox. Right-click anywhere on the page and choose "Inspect Element". The browser's dev tools should either pop up as a separate window, or as part of the main window. Click on the "network" tab in the dev tools. Then, back in the SA inbox screen, click on a conversation.

    If you go back to the "network" tab, you should see a list of all the data requests the SA page asked for from the server. One of them should look like "/ inbox? Page=1&limit=25". Click on that one. It'll show a bunch of technical details of some of the message headers.
    Hey Z,

    Does this process still work, or did SA fix the loophole? Is there a new procedure for getting access to messages without upgrading? I've been off SA for a while, and have racked up some messages from contacts that I'd love to see without paying the new, higher, fees.

    Thanks for your time and efforts.

    Scott.

  8. #21189
    Quote Originally Posted by BobLobLa  [View Original Post]
    I report them before they report me for rejecting them or offering any kind of reply / advice.
    Just be careful. You can just block, instead of report. If you do the latter, you'll get some pinhead at SA looking at your profile, and they might not like what they see, even though it has been there for years / months. I got banned on one profile for having a photo not of me in this way, and there is really no way to recover this account (practically).

  9. #21188
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1897

    The PPM Trap

    I think it may be a carryover from the WYP site where men pay for just a date. I can observe that seeking does not ban women for using it. I have also experienced women who are using it to mean they get paid at the MnG. They are often or sometimes using it to mean they get paid for meeting nothing more.

    BAM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Happtrav  [View Original Post]
    I am looking for advice on this issue:

    Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

    Or I am looking for ppm.

    No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

    Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

    How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?

  10. #21187

    I've been told I'm an idiot but.

    Quote Originally Posted by Happtrav  [View Original Post]
    I am looking for advice on this issue:

    Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

    Or I am looking for ppm.

    No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

    Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

    How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?
    I report them before they report me for rejecting them or offering any kind of reply / advice.

  11. #21186

    Real

    Meet a 19th and 24 years old last week who use "I'm looking for ppm". Just ask them to move to text. End up BBFS both of them so I would say that real girls are using that line now. Just not sure where they got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Happtrav  [View Original Post]
    I am looking for advice on this issue:

    Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

    Or I am looking for ppm.

    No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

    Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

    How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?

  12. #21185

    PPM Convo

    Quote Originally Posted by Happtrav  [View Original Post]
    I am looking for advice on this issue:

    Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

    Or I am looking for ppm.

    No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

    Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

    How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?
    Ask her to move the conversation off line before you say anything further.

  13. #21184
    Quote Originally Posted by Happtrav  [View Original Post]
    I am looking for advice on this issue:

    Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

    Or I am looking for ppm.

    No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

    Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

    How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?
    Your way is one valid one. If I have had an interaction w / a girl and then she springs the "ppm" question, I have a standard paragraph I cut and paste. Something about how you can't discuss $ on the site, you can get banned, IK people it has happened to. And the site is re-branding, so it isn't as free about such things as it used to be. However, it overall isn't a good sign for the sort of girl I personally am looking for. Definitely not a pro and someone I can see ongoing. I attempt to reassure them that of course we all understand that you don't want to get into a situation where you are trusting someone to do something when you don't really know them.

  14. #21183

    The PPM Trap

    I am looking for advice on this issue:

    Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

    Or I am looking for ppm.

    No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

    Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

    How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?

  15. #21182

    Sugar fetch

    There is another site by this name. I don't recall how I learned of it. I set up a profile. Their monthly charge is $50. I attempted to use my usual pre-paid to get the membership, it didn't work. I would be willing to TOFTT for 50 to find out if there are any reasons to be on there. I won't use a personal credit card of course. Anyone have any success paying for this site? I asked their customer service, useless as usual.

    It is interesting that even though SA raised their price, they are discounting much of the time. For special occasions, and then it seems like when I reactivate my profile (I keep it deactivated when I am not paid up, to keep the inbox empty and saving everyone time).

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