"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Happtrav** · 04-05-22 19:17

I am looking for advice on this issue:

Lately on Seeking, I have had woman boldly reply: 500 ppm (no other Conversation).

Or I am looking for ppm.

No matter how PHAT the woman is, I block them and move on.

Seeking will not think twice about banning you. They are the judge, jury and executioner.

How would you handle a woman suggesting ppm?

**FarFarAway** · 04-05-22 17:19

There is another site by this name. I don't recall how I learned of it. I set up a profile. Their monthly charge is $50. I attempted to use my usual pre-paid to get the membership, it didn't work. I would be willing to TOFTT for 50 to find out if there are any reasons to be on there. I won't use a personal credit card of course. Anyone have any success paying for this site? I asked their customer service, useless as usual.

It is interesting that even though SA raised their price, they are discounting much of the time. For special occasions, and then it seems like when I reactivate my profile (I keep it deactivated when I am not paid up, to keep the inbox empty and saving everyone time).

**BamBam** · 04-05-22 12:31

I would be cautious about relying on I'd alone to check someone's age. In my experience, almost every kid from 18-21 has a fake ID or DL, with a real picture of themselves, showing them over 21. I used to confiscate them by the dozens. The kids just go buy a new one. If you get a first and last name and cannot trace it to local social media, there is a very high probability it is a fake. There are some SB's who have even created fake SM to make themselves look more credible. In my case, I just avoid anyone under 20 and not living away from their parents or something similar. If they live at home and look young, I am not taking the risk.

BAM.

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I have a standard sentence I send to anyone w / an age listed 20 or under:

Also, I would like your assurances that you are at least 18. I can't judge age at all anymore, I am sure you understand.

This isn't legally immunizing of course, but it puts the issue out there. In response, I have had girls offer to show me their Id when we meet, and a few have even sent me a photo of their Id. This is great if you can get their real name, that gives you a lot of back-up leverage in case something goes wrong later.

Just to be clear on this, in some jurisdictions, it might be a crime to merely discuss electronically w / someone who is not of legal age sexual activity. You definitely don't want to be taking any gambles on this. Just another reason to be very careful about what you do in messaging on the seeking site. Once you get them to text, things can loosen up.

**Xaxado** · 04-05-22 12:08

Originally Posted by KrustyDawg7 [View Original Post]

Hi guys,

I took a $89 hit trying the SecretBenefits website. This is a complete and total scam. Don't even. They have tons of profiles from local women and all look authentic, right down to the "verified" video clips. I don't know how they do that, and you will get tons of "messages" which basically cost about $5 in tokens to open. If you respond there will be no answer, and after a day or two the profile, messages, etc will completely disappear from your listing. I think they steal profile info from other sites. It's a slick operation and they just take your money and run. Sad to say but Seeking is about the only sugar dating site that is more or less legit (although many of the girls are not as we know) Spread the word. Don't let these bastards steal from us.

I bought a bunch of tokens and would go on an off of there for a year or so. Had face-to-face meetings (usually lunch) with 4 women, ended up hooking up with 3 of them. So, 3 successes in a year. I still see one of them. Tons of scams on there though, you're right.

**KrustyDawg7** · 04-05-22 11:20

Hi guys,

I took a $89 hit trying the SecretBenefits website. This is a complete and total scam. Don't even. They have tons of profiles from local women and all look authentic, right down to the "verified" video clips. I don't know how they do that, and you will get tons of "messages" which basically cost about $5 in tokens to open. If you respond there will be no answer, and after a day or two the profile, messages, etc will completely disappear from your listing. I think they steal profile info from other sites. It's a slick operation and they just take your money and run. Sad to say but Seeking is about the only sugar dating site that is more or less legit (although many of the girls are not as we know) Spread the word. Don't let these bastards steal from us.

**FarFarAway** · 04-04-22 19:38

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I have been in the bowl for 4+ years, and have had 3 long term (6+ months) arrangements, and I have never been found out.

In addition, I know the real identities of all the girls I had ongoing arrangements with. I got these from 1) having their vehicle license plates run ($40 on a website), 2) having them get the hotel room for FC, with me reimbursing them, and coming into a room w / her name on the TV, 3) other concerted web digging. I have had little luck finding them based on social media. But this is likely to be different in different parts of the country with different demographics. I haven't had a great deal of luck w / college students. Most of my SBs have been workers.

**FarFarAway** · 04-04-22 19:29

Originally Posted by SBmidlo [View Original Post]

For some reason that profile has my spidey senses going off. Looks very, very young. How do you guys broach the subject of verifying their age.

I have a standard sentence I send to anyone w / an age listed 20 or under:

Also, I would like your assurances that you are at least 18. I can't judge age at all anymore, I am sure you understand.

This isn't legally immunizing of course, but it puts the issue out there. In response, I have had girls offer to show me their Id when we meet, and a few have even sent me a photo of their Id. This is great if you can get their real name, that gives you a lot of back-up leverage in case something goes wrong later.

Just to be clear on this, in some jurisdictions, it might be a crime to merely discuss electronically w / someone who is not of legal age sexual activity. You definitely don't want to be taking any gambles on this. Just another reason to be very careful about what you do in messaging on the seeking site. Once you get them to text, things can loosen up.

**SBmidlo** · 04-04-22 19:19

Originally Posted by WaterBoi [View Original Post]

Anyone have any luck with her? I'm scheduled to meet up with soon but the process seemed too easy compared to others on the site. Figured I'd ask on here since a handful of us have probably already met up with her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-cd93fd378a3b

For some reason that profile has my spidey senses going off. Looks very, very young. How do you guys broach the subject of verifying their age.

**GoldJack** · 04-04-22 16:03

Originally Posted by WaterBoi [View Original Post]

Anyone have any luck with her? I'm scheduled to meet up with soon but the process seemed too easy compared to others on the site. Figured I'd ask on here since a handful of us have probably already met up with her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-cd93fd378a3b

You say "too easy" like it's a bad thing. I don't have hours of my life to sit and talk about these girls hobbies and no chick wants to hear about my golf game, no matter how much she pretends to care. We all know why the girls are really there.

**WaterBoi** · 04-04-22 15:23

Anyone have any luck with her? I'm scheduled to meet up with soon but the process seemed too easy compared to others on the site. Figured I'd ask on here since a handful of us have probably already met up with her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...7-cd93fd378a3b

**FarFarAway** · 04-04-22 15:19

Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy [View Original Post]

I apologize for not catching the "flirt first" comment. But has this actually worked for you?

As I said, I have a SO, it isn't prudent for me to be 'out there' so much -- someone could be just exactly the person I don't want to approach.

In my view, those who are married should not take the risk of finding SBs on the hoof.

Yourself, somehow you got identified IRL by a SB. This failure of opsec is absolutely unacceptable for the married men on SA. I hear that around 40% of men on the site are married, IDK what proportion put that on their profiles. I do.

I have been in the bowl for 4+ years, and have had 3 long term (6+ months) arrangements, and I have never been found out.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 04-04-22 14:52

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

Re-read what I said. "If you flirt with the waitress / bartender. ". Yes, of course, you have to have some basis for thinking she might be receptive. Just handing someone your number isn't going to work.

I apologize for not catching the "flirt first" comment. But has this actually worked for you?

**EasyBake** · 04-04-22 14:48

Originally Posted by August23 [View Original Post]

I'd wanting to find a young (low mileage) small (petite) UTR girl for a regular. PM if you can recommend someone. I know how to treat them Tried SA and even though I'm mid 50"s I had luck. Had a regular for 3 years til she graduated college and moved back home. TIA.

SA is definitely not what it used to be, you should try sirensva.com. They get new girls everyday who will not stand you up and are not on drugs.

**Sage3** · 04-04-22 14:32

Originally Posted by CandyMan555 [View Original Post]

How can you tell if a photo on a text message on your phone is real? I did reverse phone search on Spokeo and phone belongs to a male.

Thanks CM.

It takes Spokeo and some of those other apps up to 6 months to update personal information.

They are not always reliable unless someone has had the same private information for a long time.

**Sage3** · 04-04-22 14:27

Originally Posted by Kilika [View Original Post]

Have a March madness party I'm hosting and wanting to hire a couple hostesses. Any tips on who would be willing to stay after for overtime, had my eye on raven but heard great things about Katelyn.

I don't know, you'd have to call them and see who's available. The girls call on in the morning. The majority of the girls I've seen are not on the site because they go to school around here and have other jobs or they're only in Richmond for a brief period.