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  1. #1119

    Re: Carls

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurukkk12  [View Original Post]
    Hey everyone,

    It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

    When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

    Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

    If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.
    So my question is; do you think that they pissed that you got a dance from one of the girls or that you ignored the others?

  2. #1118

    Carls beware the infestation

    Hey everyone,

    It's been awhile since my last post. Stopped in by Carls this afternoon for the first time in a year. I'm sitting at the bar with my beer and looking at my phone, when ruby stops by asking if I want a dance. Seeing that I just got there I said come back in 15 minutes. She comes back we go for a dance, nice dance with plenty of grinding and touching. We're done I go back to the bar have a another beer and look at my phone. Couple of girls stop by and I said no to their offer.

    When I first walked in I noticed a husky dude with a shirt that has security on it. There's another Hispanic sitting by the music is, another sitting at the end of the bar and a 3rd one at a table behind the bar stools. None had drinks, all sitting alone. I seen this before at Jays before the shooting. The gangs have taken over Carls. Later in the evening I get a text from an # I don't recognize. It says that he was a member of a Mexican drug cartel and that I was bothering his girls, and that I would pay with blood if I ignored his message. Says he knows where I live and information about my family. I don't know how they got to my phone, it never left my side.

    Any body hear of any thing like this? Today I got a call from a no caller ID #, I did not answer. Any thoughts?

    If you PM I will tell you the name of the cartel / gang. I didn't post since I figured the man would delete it. I googled it and it legit.

  3. #1117

    No Stamp

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    OK, so comparing to prohibition? Not sure it's the same as it was 100 years ago. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine once again & take a look at all the surrounding areas.

    Rockford was an absolute goldmine for any activity you wanted back in the 80's & 90's. There were these Lingerie Shops where you'd go in I select your "model" that would take you to a private room & put on a little fashion show for you & would offer a wide open menu. There were a couple of those on a street (Broadway, I believe, named) that would have girls standing in the storefront windows in lingerie to attract customers (One called "Brandy's"). The last 2 of those were raided & shutdown a few years ago. There was an amazing stripclub scene there as well. My fav was a little place called the Hideaway. There were some cuties & everything was available. Now, there's little to nothing going on in the Rock Town. Just the occasional SW. The stripclubs are pathetic & nothing to be had.

    There was also Belvidere. That little town had the 2 best massage places ever (Oh how I miss Terry). Now that town has ZERO activities.

    How about NW Indiana? Back in the 90's there were many wild stripclubs with pretty open menus. There were a few flat out brothels that have been shut down. There was a little diner called "Mickeys Rock & Roll Cafe" on the main strip in downtown Hammond in the middle of the block mixed in with dime stores & hardware stores etc. It was not uncommon to walk in & see "activity" going on right at the bar, LOL.

    Speaking of brothels, anyone remember what Cicero & Lyons were like in the 80's & 90's? The first stripclub I ever went into was called "My Uncles Place" on Ogden & 1st Ave. I was offered everything within 5 minutes of sitting down. I'm sure there's others that remember Towne Review & Show Of Shows. The Chicago metro area was a smorgasbord of activity back then. There's also the whole Craigslist, Backpage etc scenario. Slowly the politicians, county boys & locals have chiseled away at the options we all have for this hobby & the Mannheim Rd scene is just the latest remnant to fall.

    I personally have not explored the SW scene, I'm just too intimidated by that. I also have not really dove into the Escort scene. Just don't know where to begin & a bit intimidated by that as well. My hobbies have pretty much revolved around the the clubs located in all the above mentioned areas. All the changes over the years have left me with very few options. Pretty much about to give up as I just don't have it in me to start over in a different arena (SW, Escorts etc).

    So, to say prohibition of these activities "hasn't worked", doesn't seem to be a very accurate statement. A few years ago, if I was in the mood for some fun, I'd hop in the car & had several options. Twenty five years ago, I had more options than I knew what to do with. Now, the Chicago area has become a wasteland over the past decade.

    As far as psychics go? Don't even know where to begin on that one. Let me know if you find one that offers "other" services / takeout.
    Much of the scene has gone underground or online. But SW hasn't been totally eradicated. The same as formal prohibition didn't eradicate liquor. But the same crusade was there as places selling booze at the time were often harassed and raided. And I can recall when Lynn's was a hot bed for this activity. I often drove by the places and one night I finally mustered up the courage to go inside. The very minute I went in a grouchy old woman behind the counter barked "Would you like to buy Susie a cocktail? Those places were total ripoffs and really deserved to be shutdown.

  4. #1116

    I beg to differ

    Quote Originally Posted by BeechNut79  [View Original Post]
    I may run this one by another psychic for a second opinion. Recently did ask one (not the one I asked about the dancer ban) whether she seeks personal escorting ever becoming legal in more if not all of the country. She replied that while sexual adventure is highly suppressed in the US and some other cultures this will change in the future because of our power of free will. We want the control in our own hands and not to be told by government what to do and how to do it, particularly when there is no harm. So, in time it will be made legal, just as it did with both gambling and now marijuana. But the feelings of shame and guilt will take a long time to go away, maybe even generations.

    I feel that such companies are needed more now due to so much isolation which was happening even before the pandemic, largely due to the addiction to smartphones and the Internet, but actually going back to the AIDS scare. During the couple of prior decades it was fairly easy for most of us to get it for free. And, last but certainly not least, isn't it obvious that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?
    OK, so comparing to prohibition? Not sure it's the same as it was 100 years ago. Let's hop in the Wayback Machine once again & take a look at all the surrounding areas.

    Rockford was an absolute goldmine for any activity you wanted back in the 80's & 90's. There were these Lingerie Shops where you'd go in I select your "model" that would take you to a private room & put on a little fashion show for you & would offer a wide open menu. There were a couple of those on a street (Broadway, I believe, named) that would have girls standing in the storefront windows in lingerie to attract customers (One called "Brandy's"). The last 2 of those were raided & shutdown a few years ago. There was an amazing stripclub scene there as well. My fav was a little place called the Hideaway. There were some cuties & everything was available. Now, there's little to nothing going on in the Rock Town. Just the occasional SW. The stripclubs are pathetic & nothing to be had.

    There was also Belvidere. That little town had the 2 best massage places ever (Oh how I miss Terry). Now that town has ZERO activities.

    How about NW Indiana? Back in the 90's there were many wild stripclubs with pretty open menus. There were a few flat out brothels that have been shut down. There was a little diner called "Mickeys Rock & Roll Cafe" on the main strip in downtown Hammond in the middle of the block mixed in with dime stores & hardware stores etc. It was not uncommon to walk in & see "activity" going on right at the bar, LOL.

    Speaking of brothels, anyone remember what Cicero & Lyons were like in the 80's & 90's? The first stripclub I ever went into was called "My Uncles Place" on Ogden & 1st Ave. I was offered everything within 5 minutes of sitting down. I'm sure there's others that remember Towne Review & Show Of Shows. The Chicago metro area was a smorgasbord of activity back then. There's also the whole Craigslist, Backpage etc scenario. Slowly the politicians, county boys & locals have chiseled away at the options we all have for this hobby & the Mannheim Rd scene is just the latest remnant to fall.

    I personally have not explored the SW scene, I'm just too intimidated by that. I also have not really dove into the Escort scene. Just don't know where to begin & a bit intimidated by that as well. My hobbies have pretty much revolved around the the clubs located in all the above mentioned areas. All the changes over the years have left me with very few options. Pretty much about to give up as I just don't have it in me to start over in a different arena (SW, Escorts etc).

    So, to say prohibition of these activities "hasn't worked", doesn't seem to be a very accurate statement. A few years ago, if I was in the mood for some fun, I'd hop in the car & had several options. Twenty five years ago, I had more options than I knew what to do with. Now, the Chicago area has become a wasteland over the past decade.

    As far as psychics go? Don't even know where to begin on that one. Let me know if you find one that offers "other" services / takeout.

  5. #1115

    Second Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    So, I'm not trying to be a D-bag but you might want to scroll 8 posts down from yours to post #1102. The entire story is there. The village officials discovered there was more than dancing going on. Did your psychic explain to you that there never was a "dancing license" to begin with? That's why it was so easy for the village to implement the dancer ban. These places all started with the "lingerie fashion shows" that were run by outside companies. That's how they were able to do it without an "entertainment" license to my understanding.
    I may run this one by another psychic for a second opinion. Recently did ask one (not the one I asked about the dancer ban) whether she seeks personal escorting ever becoming legal in more if not all of the country. She replied that while sexual adventure is highly suppressed in the US and some other cultures this will change in the future because of our power of free will. We want the control in our own hands and not to be told by government what to do and how to do it, particularly when there is no harm. So, in time it will be made legal, just as it did with both gambling and now marijuana. But the feelings of shame and guilt will take a long time to go away, maybe even generations.

    I feel that such companies are needed more now due to so much isolation which was happening even before the pandemic, largely due to the addiction to smartphones and the Internet, but actually going back to the AIDS scare. During the couple of prior decades it was fairly easy for most of us to get it for free. And, last but certainly not least, isn't it obvious that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?

  6. #1114

    Yeah!

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    Yes, if I understand correctly, they did not issue any special license since the girls were "visitors" from companies like Sneak Previews, Vogue Fashions (remember the Palos Park Madam?) & Helen Of Troy. They seemed to be viewed the same way as the people that stop in selling roses or tamales. I think everything changed when the bars all booted the Fashion Show companies out & started managing the girls on their own. I guess it they wanted to collect the show fees from the girls instead of that landing in the pockets of the Show company owners. But hey, I'm no psychic.
    WTF was that about? I for see the girls coming back. Then pigs will fly. And, and, and. I remember a few of those names. If I recall there was always a bartender in kind of lingerie type outfit so when one walked in one knew they were in the right place. Also I do recall that the way they scooted around the license restrictions was by bringing in an outside company to produce the shows and handle the money and the transactions to the girls. In reality that worked. Problem is and I have had some experience in the private side of that game (I. E. Bachelor parties, divorce parties, golf outings) when I first got into business, it is indeed a major pain. You are dealing with girls that in their own words would tell me that if a girl is in the business they have at least one screw loose! Plus when you deal with horny dudes, money, drinks, women. It's a bad combo to begin with!

  7. #1113

    The fashion shows

    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    If I recall that back in the day they had something like pull tabs or something like where you bought chances to win prizes. It's been so long and I am so old I do not totally recall. However, the outside companies running the dancer situation that part I do remember and of course also that the licenses being given to these establishments like uncle louie's et al were / are completely different from say scores and the place next door.
    Yes, if I understand correctly, they did not issue any special license since the girls were "visitors" from companies like Sneak Previews, Vogue Fashions (remember the Palos Park Madam?) & Helen Of Troy. They seemed to be viewed the same way as the people that stop in selling roses or tamales. I think everything changed when the bars all booted the Fashion Show companies out & started managing the girls on their own. I guess it they wanted to collect the show fees from the girls instead of that landing in the pockets of the Show company owners. But hey, I'm no psychic.

  8. #1112

    Also

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    So, I'm not trying to be a D-bag but you might want to scroll 8 posts down from yours to post #1102. The entire story is there. The village officials discovered there was more than dancing going on. Did your psychic explain to you that there never was a "dancing license" to begin with? That's why it was so easy for the village to implement the dancer ban. These places all started with the "lingerie fashion shows" that were run by outside companies. That's how they were able to do it without an "entertainment" license to my understanding.
    If I recall that back in the day they had something like pull tabs or something like where you bought chances to win prizes. It's been so long and I am so old I do not totally recall. However, the outside companies running the dancer situation that part I do remember and of course also that the licenses being given to these establishments like uncle louie's et al were / are completely different from say scores and the place next door.

  9. #1111

    Scroll 8 posts down

    Quote Originally Posted by BeechNut79  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know why the town banned all lap dancing because of the incident at J's, even if it isn't known for sure if it was even dancer related? A psychic I saw shortly after hearing about it predicted that they would get their dancing license back. Didn't ask for a time frame though.
    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    The during the investigation, the locals had a warrant for any & all video the bar was in possession of from all security cams. Apparently the owner had years of video from all the various cams stored including the 2 cameras right above the dance area showing everything that went on there. There's speculation as to why he had all the video saved, but that's all rumors & opinions & I am sticking to info that is confirmed to be fact Once all that video was turned over, the Mayor, & all the village officials saw the activities from the dance area as well as the deals that were being done out in the open. At that point, the village put a "Dancer Ban" on all bars that were not licensed as "Entertainment" bars
    So, I'm not trying to be a D-bag but you might want to scroll 8 posts down from yours to post #1102. The entire story is there. The village officials discovered there was more than dancing going on. Did your psychic explain to you that there never was a "dancing license" to begin with? That's why it was so easy for the village to implement the dancer ban. These places all started with the "lingerie fashion shows" that were run by outside companies. That's how they were able to do it without an "entertainment" license to my understanding.

  10. #1110

    Banned

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    Yep, Masalas is open for business, & can confirm what you say about new ownership. I stopped in once & they've completely redone the interior & it is nicer inside but just a regular bar & grill type place. Regardless of ownership, there is absolutely ZERO chance of any bar in Melrose having dancers even if they wanted to. That's an instant ticket to the same status as Louie's.
    Does anyone know why the town banned all lap dancing because of the incident at J's, even if it isn't known for sure if it was even dancer related? A psychic I saw shortly after hearing about it predicted that they would get their dancing license back. Didn't ask for a time frame though.

  11. #1109

    Doesn't make sense

    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    Yep, Masalas is open for business, & can confirm what you say about new ownership. I stopped in once & they've completely redone the interior & it is nicer inside but just a regular bar & grill type place. Regardless of ownership, there is absolutely ZERO chance of any bar in Melrose having dancers even if they wanted to. That's an instant ticket to the same status as Louie's.
    I mean the old playpen is a mexican restaurant and I can barely tell it's open. Imo someone I. E. A real estate agent or a management company sold a lease or buy to people that don't know the immediate terrain. I mean just the sign I saw that says they are looking for private events kind of red flagged them for me. That street is a weekday day street of commercial traffic and that is pretty much it!! The shot and a beer joints like the one just south of fullerton on the west side of heim has a steady clientele mostly catering to guys working nights that come in afterwards to mellow out prior to going back to the house and listen to their old lady b*tch and moan. I just don't see a legitimate restaurant that is not an easy in easy out franchise with a drive through making it on that street. I mean what would they offer? Gaming. That's up and down the strip these days already. Also in every surrounding strip center one will see at least one exclusive gaming place. Again I don't think the people that moved in know what goes on business wise around there. For their sake I hope I am wrong. Stosh.

  12. #1108

    Can confirm

    Quote Originally Posted by Illini333  [View Original Post]
    I dug around and it's called "Masala Grill and Sports Bar". It appears to be an Indian owned place. That being said, I highly doubt any fun is going to be had there. So don't expect any dancers there. This place probably won't last to long. I doubt people will go there without the ladies working there. Plenty of sports bars up and down Mannheim and they are rarely packed. This place doesn't have a chance.
    Yep, Masalas is open for business, & can confirm what you say about new ownership. I stopped in once & they've completely redone the interior & it is nicer inside but just a regular bar & grill type place. Regardless of ownership, there is absolutely ZERO chance of any bar in Melrose having dancers even if they wanted to. That's an instant ticket to the same status as Louie's.

  13. #1107
    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    From the mayor and mr. Illini. I reported here that the new place didn't look open even though it was confirmed it is indeed open. The last I saw as of today was that they have a sign asking people to have their events there like a banquet hall I would imagine. Ok I understand why he might do that and not be considered in uncle thomas's boys area by contrast. With all that has gone on on that strip I would believe that all of the politicos are edgy due to everything under the sun is being labeled "human trafficking". Sorry fellas that includes the downtown girls that wear two thousand dollar heels and four thousand dollar boots. And also live in a beautiful high rise condo over looking the skyline and or lake! So there! They TO are being held against their will!! Save them!!
    I dug around and it's called "Masala Grill and Sports Bar". It appears to be an Indian owned place. That being said, I highly doubt any fun is going to be had there. So don't expect any dancers there. This place probably won't last to long. I doubt people will go there without the ladies working there. Plenty of sports bars up and down Mannheim and they are rarely packed. This place doesn't have a chance.

  14. #1106

    Interesting info

    Quote Originally Posted by Illini333  [View Original Post]
    J's was in unincorporated Leyden but the owner made the mistake of paying to having it annexed by Melrose bc he thought the mayor and city would always be friendly to these types of places. Big mistake on his part.

    Has anyone been to the new bar that use to be Js? I think it is called Marsellas bar or something like that.
    From the mayor and mr. Illini. I reported here that the new place didn't look open even though it was confirmed it is indeed open. The last I saw as of today was that they have a sign asking people to have their events there like a banquet hall I would imagine. Ok I understand why he might do that and not be considered in uncle thomas's boys area by contrast. With all that has gone on on that strip I would believe that all of the politicos are edgy due to everything under the sun is being labeled "human trafficking". Sorry fellas that includes the downtown girls that wear two thousand dollar heels and four thousand dollar boots. And also live in a beautiful high rise condo over looking the skyline and or lake! So there! They TO are being held against their will!! Save them!!

  15. #1105
    Quote Originally Posted by MayorQuimby  [View Original Post]
    So I completely see where you're coming from. I always thought J's was part of Leyden as well. There were several incidents there over the years, mostly minor like a fight between the girls etc. There was one case where it got crazy, some of the girls took liquor bottles from behind the bar to hit each other over the head etc, OUCH! Each time one of these took place, it was always Melrose Park LE that showed up. If you do a google search using just the name J's Bar & Grill, Mannheim Rd, you'll see results that call it Northlake, Leyden, & Melrose. If you do an address search, it shows up as a Melrose Park address. The thing that confirms it as MP is the news articles about the shooting all list it as Melrose; https://abc7chicago.com/fatal-shooti...-park/6921842/.

    Interesting that you mention other areas following suit. When the dancer ban originally was put in place. It seemed that Stone park was following suit (although I do not know that to be 100% true). You all may recall that Carls was shut down right after the shooting as well. From what I know, the SP mayor eventually lifted that ban. I'm guessing that's easier in a town that's the size of a postage stamp like Stone Pk. Not as many bureaucrats to go through I guess.

    & I wonder how many people on here are old enough to remember the "just one more thing" line, LOL.
    J's was in unincorporated Leyden but the owner made the mistake of paying to having it annexed by Melrose bc he thought the mayor and city would always be friendly to these types of places. Big mistake on his part.

    Has anyone been to the new bar that use to be J’s? I think it is called Marsella’s bar or something like that.

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