Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[MartyByrde]

Why does this thread sound like what you'd get when you have a bot talk to itself? Right down to the repeated use of key phrases until they don't really even make sense.

Maybe because some folks just want to make senseless and groundless statements.

[Marko Ramius]

Why does this thread sound like what you'd get when you have a bot talk to itself? Right down to the repeated use of key phrases until they don't really even make sense.

[RoflCopter22]

Once again, well, well stated! You views on providers are spot on, and certainly in agreement with what I think. Too bad some other hobbyists are attacking you with little to no reason. Just remember the old saying, "Consider the source, and ignore it".

Also, your statements "I am sure you're jealous about what I get service wise from the women you drool over like that pathetic excuse of human DNA Camhole" and "I'll ask you the same thing I asked that little peasant Camhole" are also right on the money. I suspect you correctly applied the "Consider the source" characterization to Camhole. Right on!

Frankly if every man felt the same way I did about hookers half of them would be out of business entirely. There are way to many out there that are either fat and don't understand that their only purpose is to do nasty stuff or are super hot but all safety. I get it though. As long as there are people out there willing to pay to have sex with fat chicks or get a CBJ those prostitutes will exist but in my mind they and the "men" who encourage that bullshit shouldn't exist. Paying to have vagina sex with a fat chick is just sad. There are plenty of fat bitches out there that would be more than happy to get laid.

[MartyByrde]

Why do you and the other excuses for men keep saying I'm irreparably angry and need therapy for my hatred of bad hooking? Instead of agreeing with me you're only identifying yourself as part of the problem. I am sure you're jealous about what I get service wise from the women you drool over like that pathetic excuse of human DNA Camhole, but the way you clowns personally attack me for my posts makes you all just look like a bunch of jaded children. The way I see it you broke losers have 2 options. You can either stop treating hookers like they are on a magical pedistal and use them for what the good lord intended (plowing preferably bare and in their buttholes) or you can treat them with respect and dignity pay them hundreds of dollars for covered bjs and other awful services but just shut the fuck up about it. Telling me to go to therapy because I genuinely don't tolerate bad ***** services just makes you look like a giant cuck. I'll ask you the same thing I asked that little peasant Camhole. What hooker made you so proud to reject the male sex as a whole? Why do you advocate for hookers so much? Are you a hooker or just another misguided homosexual who has taken up defending prostitutes as a means of distraction for your cravings of penis in you?

Once again, well, well stated! You views on providers are spot on, and certainly in agreement with what I think. Too bad some other hobbyists are attacking you with little to no reason. Just remember the old saying, "Consider the source, and ignore it".

Also, your statements "I am sure you're jealous about what I get service wise from the women you drool over like that pathetic excuse of human DNA Camhole" and "I'll ask you the same thing I asked that little peasant Camhole" are also right on the money. I suspect you correctly applied the "Consider the source" characterization to Camhole. Right on!

[AsaMona22]

Yeah, think you might be surprised about some of the broads. They have no friends for the most part, don't trust anyone, and we don't trust them either. After two years of busting nuts in this chick and her treating me well and vice versa, I reached the point of kicking it with her some of the time. I'm no captain save a ho and she's not getting any more money from me than dinners and a discounted rate to seed her in all three holes, but it happens. Most providers are so emotionally and psychologically unstable that you can see it coming as a bad idea, but every once in awhile there are ones that aren't crazy as fuck.

I'd never go looking for such an arrangement; this one just happened to work out, and some day, it'll stop being good. Such is life. I never take her out to bars or a sports game though. That would be silly.

Thats how it should be when it goes that route. Some guys would be lost in the sauce and ruin it by asking her to be his gf or clingy. She's a woman and they have choices these days. She chose you, enjoy while it lasts!

[RoflCopter22]

Let me give you a bit of free advice. If it is obvious to any of us reading your posts what type of person you are, it's obvious to women as well. You are the epitome of why people say Your Mileage May Vary. The experiences I get to enjoy are always going to be better, since I don't give off vibes that creep people the fuck out. I'll say this one more time to try and truly help you out. Find a therapist and talk out your issues. For everyone's sake.

Why do you and the other excuses for men keep saying I'm irreparably angry and need therapy for my hatred of bad hooking? Instead of agreeing with me you're only identifying yourself as part of the problem. I am sure you're jealous about what I get service wise from the women you drool over like that pathetic excuse of human DNA Camhole, but the way you clowns personally attack me for my posts makes you all just look like a bunch of jaded children. The way I see it you broke losers have 2 options. You can either stop treating hookers like they are on a magical pedistal and use them for what the good lord intended (plowing preferably bare and in their buttholes) or you can treat them with respect and dignity pay them hundreds of dollars for covered bjs and other awful services but just shut the fuck up about it. Telling me to go to therapy because I genuinely don't tolerate bad ***** services just makes you look like a giant cuck. I'll ask you the same thing I asked that little peasant Camhole. What hooker made you so proud to reject the male sex as a whole? Why do you advocate for hookers so much? Are you a hooker or just another misguided homosexual who has taken up defending prostitutes as a means of distraction for your cravings of penis in you?

[MikeJennings]

I saw Heather Valentine at my place, way back, and she said she could recognize that most of my furniture and lamps were from Ikea, which they were. About right for where I was in life at that time. She said we can go hang out at Ikea together sometime. I didn't know if she meant on or off the clock, but I wasn't delusional enough to think it was off the clock.

Years later, I saw Chloe May, the girl with the dyed blonde short hair, and many tattoos and piercings. She said that we could go to a Mariners game together sometime. I wondered on or off the clock. I wasn't delusional enough to think she would do it off the clock, because that's three hours she could be making money with another client.

Both cases, why am I going to pay them those big dollars, to spend time with me while they are fully clothed?

And, if either truly meant off the clock, I don't know why they would have spent that time with me. That's why I never even took any lady up on asking me to see her in some more regular setting, like drinks, Ikea, or a Mariners game. Their motivation and end games are pretty clear.

Yeah, think you might be surprised about some of the broads. They have no friends for the most part, don't trust anyone, and we don't trust them either. After two years of busting nuts in this chick and her treating me well and vice versa, I reached the point of kicking it with her some of the time. I'm no captain save a ho and she's not getting any more money from me than dinners and a discounted rate to seed her in all three holes, but it happens. Most providers are so emotionally and psychologically unstable that you can see it coming as a bad idea, but every once in awhile there are ones that aren't crazy as fuck.

I'd never go looking for such an arrangement; this one just happened to work out, and some day, it'll stop being good. Such is life. I never take her out to bars or a sports game though. That would be silly.

[Aegean45]

I saw Heather Valentine at my place, way back, and she said she could recognize that most of my furniture and lamps were from Ikea, which they were. About right for where I was in life at that time. She said we can go hang out at Ikea together sometime. I didn't know if she meant on or off the clock, but I wasn't delusional enough to think it was off the clock.

Years later, I saw Chloe May, the girl with the dyed blonde short hair, and many tattoos and piercings. She said that we could go to a Mariners game together sometime. I wondered on or off the clock. I wasn't delusional enough to think she would do it off the clock, because that's three hours she could be making money with another client.

Both cases, why am I going to pay them those big dollars, to spend time with me while they are fully clothed?

And, if either truly meant off the clock, I don't know why they would have spent that time with me. That's why I never even took any lady up on asking me to see her in some more regular setting, like drinks, Ikea, or a Mariners game. Their motivation and end games are pretty clear.

I've been to Vegas with a two providers in the past (separate trips). I paid for the airfare, lodging and food (no shopping) and we hung out for the weekend. One of them I took hiking in Zion and the other one just wanted to get stoned and got shit faced drunk. LOL.

Some might say that airfare, lodging / food could be considered a "rate" but I didn't mind paying those things, I just didn't want to pay those things plus pay them a "rate" to hang out with me. Everyone's got their red line. LOL.

Just make sure to communicate what each others expectations are.

[Makayla McDade]

I saw Heather Valentine at my place, way back, and she said she could recognize that most of my furniture and lamps were from Ikea, which they were. About right for where I was in life at that time. She said we can go hang out at Ikea together sometime. I didn't know if she meant on or off the clock, but I wasn't delusional enough to think it was off the clock.

Years later, I saw Chloe May, the girl with the dyed blonde short hair, and many tattoos and piercings. She said that we could go to a Mariners game together sometime. I wondered on or off the clock. I wasn't delusional enough to think she would do it off the clock, because that's three hours she could be making money with another client.

Both cases, why am I going to pay them those big dollars, to spend time with me while they are fully clothed?

And, if either truly meant off the clock, I don't know why they would have spent that time with me. That's why I never even took any lady up on asking me to see her in some more regular setting, like drinks, Ikea, or a Mariners game. Their motivation and end games are pretty clear.

[MikeJennings]

Since it's Friday I thought I'd end the week with a true story regarding an experience I had with a provider sometime around 2007 or so.

I saw a young blonde spinnery provider advertising on TNA, a place from which I rarely booked dates but would scour from time to time. I think her name was Christina if I recall, gimpy half-arm which she told me later was a birth defect. She was pretty hot, though, and I'd received a few private PMs from board members informing me that she was legit and a decent date after I'd posted on one of her ads. She didn't have an incall and since I had a temporary living space I decided to have her over to my place. We got-on well, at that time I was younger and she and I weren't too terribly far-apart in age, she was a great fuck, and afterward she asked if she could hang-out for a while. She kept telling me how hot I was and getting-up to kiss me frequently. She said, "we should hang-out more often. I like to go to a bar in Kirkland, maybe we can go there sometime. You should meet my friends". I thought that was a rather odd request, me not being inclined to hang-out with providers at all, just not something which had ever occurred to me. But in this case I took a casual approach and told her "sure, we can hang-out for an evening".

Following week she called me on a Thursday evening. She asked if I wanted to hang-out with her that night, that she and her friends would be at some bar in Kirkland. I agreed, we started working-out the details and then at the end of it all she said, "okay, so let's talk about how much for a rate". Confused, I asked, "um, for what would a "rate" be needed?" She replied, "the rate you'll pay for hanging-out with me tonight". I got a bit indignant at that point and told her, "under absolutely zero circumstances am I paying you for merely hanging-out. There's just no way I'd ever do something like that. Why would I? This was your idea, you're the one who kept saying we needed to hang-out and get drinks together, that you wanted you and I to hang-out with your friends. You never told me this was some sort of escorting thing. Jeez, you should pay me for my time after pulling this fast-one on me". I'm glad she mentioned this before I actually met her, though, because it could have been intense had she brought this up in-person.

To that she replied, "OOOOHHHHhhhhhhh. " with downward declining enthusiasm. I could hear the indignation in her voice, and it pissed me off. So just to get the last one in, I said, "if ever I were to do something like this, and I can tell you that I never will, she'd have to be much much hotter than you and definitely more interesting. Perhaps maybe a big-name porn actress, or some sort of higher-profile model or film actress, someone who is actually interesting and can tell me about her experiences". She was put-off, I heard her give out a huff, then said, "can I call you back?". I laughed at that, knowing she wouldn't, and I disconnected the call.

I found out later that she had stolen some trick's checkbook and wrote several thousand dollars' worth of checks, apparently went to jail for a while over that one. Can't verify if that's true, of course, but that was the story. But she had lost what would have been a very constant regular had she not tried to play me like that. But in the end, I dodged a bullet. I still don't really ever hang-out with providers, no desire for over-nighters or any of that weird shit. Hell I get annoyed when they ask me to drive them through a drive-thru after we're finished, LOL.

What are some of your stories?

Ha!

I actually started kicking it with a provider about a year ago. She's cool, my speed, and has a life outside of hooking. She's still a shitshow like they all are, but we hang out, I cook dinner, we fuck, etc. She stays in a nice hotel / apartment type deal so I'll "work from home" at her place for a change of pace while blowing loads in her on my breaks. But it's a once a month type thing.

[Street Troller]

Since it's Friday I thought I'd end the week with a true story regarding an experience I had with a provider sometime around 2007 or so.

I saw a young blonde spinnery provider advertising on TNA, a place from which I rarely booked dates but would scour from time to time. I think her name was Christina if I recall, gimpy half-arm which she told me later was a birth defect. She was pretty hot, though, and I'd received a few private PMs from board members informing me that she was legit and a decent date after I'd posted on one of her ads. She didn't have an incall and since I had a temporary living space I decided to have her over to my place. We got-on well, at that time I was younger and she and I weren't too terribly far-apart in age, she was a great fuck, and afterward she asked if she could hang-out for a while. She kept telling me how hot I was and getting-up to kiss me frequently. She said, "we should hang-out more often. I like to go to a bar in Kirkland, maybe we can go there sometime. You should meet my friends". I thought that was a rather odd request, me not being inclined to hang-out with providers at all, just not something which had ever occurred to me. But in this case I took a casual approach and told her "sure, we can hang-out for an evening".

Following week she called me on a Thursday evening. She asked if I wanted to hang-out with her that night, that she and her friends would be at some bar in Kirkland. I agreed, we started working-out the details and then at the end of it all she said, "okay, so let's talk about how much for a rate". Confused, I asked, "um, for what would a "rate" be needed?" She replied, "the rate you'll pay for hanging-out with me tonight". I got a bit indignant at that point and told her, "under absolutely zero circumstances am I paying you for merely hanging-out. There's just no way I'd ever do something like that. Why would I? This was your idea, you're the one who kept saying we needed to hang-out and get drinks together, that you wanted you and I to hang-out with your friends. You never told me this was some sort of escorting thing. Jeez, you should pay me for my time after pulling this fast-one on me". I'm glad she mentioned this before I actually met her, though, because it could have been intense had she brought this up in-person.

To that she replied, "OOOOHHHHhhhhhhh. " with downward declining enthusiasm. I could hear the indignation in her voice, and it pissed me off. So just to get the last one in, I said, "if ever I were to do something like this, and I can tell you that I never will, she'd have to be much much hotter than you and definitely more interesting. Perhaps maybe a big-name porn actress, or some sort of higher-profile model or film actress, someone who is actually interesting and can tell me about her experiences". She was put-off, I heard her give out a huff, then said, "can I call you back?". I laughed at that, knowing she wouldn't, and I disconnected the call.

I found out later that she had stolen some trick's checkbook and wrote several thousand dollars' worth of checks, apparently went to jail for a while over that one. Can't verify if that's true, of course, but that was the story. But she had lost what would have been a very constant regular had she not tried to play me like that. But in the end, I dodged a bullet. I still don't really ever hang-out with providers, no desire for over-nighters or any of that weird shit. Hell I get annoyed when they ask me to drive them through a drive-thru after we're finished, LOL.

What are some of your stories?

[PA Paul]

When it comes to human feelings and emotions, and males, who here feels: We're male, and we just have to suck it up.

I may not agree with you, but if I know that that's how you feel, at least I'll know what your way of thinking is.

I have male friends who are exactly like that. If you had a breakup with a girlfriend, you could forget about them being an outlet for your thoughts.

On the other hand, I also have male friends, who I think would be willing to be an outlet, but just aren't capable as far as emotional intelligence, to converse with that about.

Male friends who you can share those thoughts with, who you don't think will laugh at and make fun of you, are rare.

But, if you also think that, as males, we're obligated to just take being laughed at and made fun of, let it be known here.

Understanding someone's mindset, and where they are coming from, is the first step to peaceful resolutions and meetings of the minds.

[RoflCopter22]

Way to go, Rolfcopter, telling the truth, and telling it like it is, and how it should be.

That's what I do. I'm not a member of the make a wish foundation for hookers like some of the "men" on this board. So many of the senior members of this forum have gotten it in their heads that prostitutes are these amazing goddesses that should be given hundreds of dollars just for existing. I'll say this over and over. If you're paying to get a covered cock sucking you're not a man. If you're paying a fat hooker for vagina sex you're pathetic. Most importantly if you don't see hookers as only existing to be fuck toys then you should just kill yourself.

[Makayla McDade]

Why do you love WGs so much? Their only purpose in this planet is to pleasure us. They literally serve no other purpose. A WG who isn't giving up all 3 holes is a huge waste and one who won't put an uncovered penis in their mouth is an even bigger one. However as long as there are gay men masquerading as straight like you they will get paid to suck a condom. Stop being a fag.

Way to go, Rolfcopter, telling the truth, and telling it like it is, and how it should be.

[MassageMeow]

Why do you love WGs so much? Their only purpose in this planet is to pleasure us. They literally serve no other purpose. A WG who isn't giving up all 3 holes is a huge waste and one who won't put an uncovered penis in their mouth is an even bigger one. However as long as there are gay men masquerading as straight like you they will get paid to suck a condom. Stop being a fag.

Let me give you a bit of free advice. If it is obvious to any of us reading your posts what type of person you are, it's obvious to women as well. You are the epitome of why people say Your Mileage May Vary. The experiences I get to enjoy are always going to be better, since I don't give off vibes that creep people the fuck out. I'll say this one more time to try and truly help you out. Find a therapist and talk out your issues. For everyone's sake.