Sugarbabies?

**BamBam** · 03-26-22 19:24

Originally Posted by ToddCincy [View Original Post]

Part of it is likely the way the site is being marketed. In the beginning, the tagline was, "find a sugar daddy for tuition." Now it's "start dating up". That is catnip to women over 30, who are starting to feel their biological clocks ticking. (Wait until they learn that the average SD is a married man twice their age, who wants to pay them $300 for ppm! Ha!

In short: I have noticed it, too. And those of you who've read my prior posts know how I feel about "mature" providers and sugar babies: I have zero interest in them! But I believe the causes are multiple, and (hopefully) temporary. If I wanted older women I'd join Silver Singles!

I think there is an element of "dating up" involved as you mentioned. If they are in good shape and have a fun attitude, I do not totally reject them. However, I treat them as Ashley Madison type candidates. I will hook up with them if they want but I never offer an allowance. Since they enroll thinking it is a dating app, a lot of them do not know there can be an allowance involved. I have two I see occasionally like that. There are different dynamics for the 35 and over contingent. They still want sex but have a hard time finding someone they like on the other dating apps. They think seeking offers a higher class pool of candidates. As long as they understand we are just dating and there is no sugar, no problem! Given what's available on the escort market, a few of these AM types are diamonds in the rough. And I don't have to go bar-hopping to find them. Just my 2 cents.

BAM.

**Todd Cincy** · 03-26-22 15:13

Originally Posted by Decatur21 [View Original Post]

Anyone else notice how much older the girls are on Seeking lately? Seems like 60% or more are 30 or older and almost 90% are over 25. I understand why there are more older ones since it is being marketed as a dating site now, but where are all the younger girls? It seems like it's the same amount of girls showing green as always, but way older now. Before maybe 1 in 10 were 30 or older and half were under 25.

Part of it is likely the way the site is being marketed. In the beginning, the tagline was, "find a sugar daddy for tuition." Now it's "start dating up". That is catnip to women over 30, who are starting to feel their biological clocks ticking. (Wait until they learn that the average SD is a married man twice their age, who wants to pay them $300 for ppm! Ha!

The Millennials (who were the original sugar babies of 2009-2014) are now entering early middle age. I suspect that some of the older ones on Seeking today are returnees. Also, the Millennials (the oldest of whom are now 40) were the original online generation. In 1999, Yahoo magazine ran an article about "camwhores", who were teen girls selling naughty pics online (and probably meeting for cash, too.) Well, an 18-year-old girl of 1999 is 41 in 2022!

I don't have kids. But I'm a GenXer (early 50's), and it seems that today's parents hover over their young adult children like hawks. They track their adult kids' whereabouts with iphone apps and whatnot. My best friend from high school has a 23-year-old daughter, and the girl's mother still tracks her location via a smartphone app. It's insane. For us, though, the upshot is probably that 18 to 23 year-old young women are subject to a lot more parental monitoring than was the case just a few years ago.

Finally, the lingering effects of COVID and the labor shortages. I think that will rebound, though, as most of the free COVID money is gone now, and inflation is providing an incentive for people to seek extra sources of income. (We may see a new crop of economically motivated providers and SBs before the end of 2022.).

In short: I have noticed it, too. And those of you who've read my prior posts know how I feel about "mature" providers and sugar babies: I have zero interest in them! But I believe the causes are multiple, and (hopefully) temporary. If I wanted older women I'd join Silver Singles!

**Todd Cincy** · 03-26-22 14:56

We all have different standards and red lines regarding age, looks, weight, price range, etc. I get that.

But is there anyone among us who is doing "online only" arrangements?

I can't even imagine how this would work.

Camshow sites have been around for 20 years. And back in the 1980's, there were the 1-900 lines. (As a high school kid in 1985, I once dialed a 1-900 line out of pure curiosity. I found it unsatisfying and boring. And I had a *lot* of fun trying to explain that one to my parents when it appeared on the family phone bill.).

I just can't imagine what any of these girls is providing that would enable them to make any real money with an "online arrangement". Am I missing something here?

**RickMann** · 03-26-22 12:34

Originally Posted by BamBam [View Original Post]

I have all of her social media (and there's lots.) There is zero indication of a boyfriend. The only pictures of males with her are her dog and her dad. She is exclusively hanging with other women. I have no dog in the fight since she already turned me down. However, you wouldn't be cock-blocking would you? Trying to scare away competition? That's a black mark on you if true.

BAM.

A form of white knighting if true.

**BamBam** · 03-26-22 12:32

Originally Posted by AlanDodson [View Original Post]

I know her in real life. I have never interacted with her in any mongering sense, but I do know she has a live in BF who is extremely jealous with multiple felonies. Definitely not the type who would be down with her doing this kind of thing so if you meet up with her I'd make sure its on neutral ground and not at her place.

I have all of her social media (and there's lots.) There is zero indication of a boyfriend. The only pictures of males with her are her dog and her dad. She is exclusively hanging with other women. I have no dog in the fight since she already turned me down. However, you wouldn't be cock-blocking would you? Trying to scare away competition? That's a black mark on you if true.

BAM.

**BamBam** · 03-26-22 12:28

Originally Posted by TheUndrew [View Original Post]

I remember when lists like this had numbers for each SB. Now they reflect how the actual site is. A bunch of ladies trying to find a way to get something for existing.
I can't handle another Cincinnati meet that starts off with "I still have a few Covid pounds on me". As if it can't be mentioned prior to meeting.

I suggest you always require a short video chat on the site prior to agreeing to meet. You can ask her to stand and spin. There is only one viable excuse for not doing a VC for a short period. It's free, anonymous and easy.

BAM.

**Pasture Finder** · 03-25-22 17:43

I remember when lists like this had numbers for each SB. Now they reflect how the actual site is. A bunch of ladies trying to find a way to get something for existing.

Cincinnati has the worst crop of ladies. The good ones make a few thousand and get the fuck out of here. And it shows.

I travel and meet amazing women that remind me of how things felt 4+ years ago.

I only keep my account active to find ladies when I travel. I can't handle another Cincinnati meet that starts off with "I still have a few Covid pounds on me". As if it can't be mentioned prior to meeting.

Originally Posted by BamBam [View Original Post]

Browneeyedbeauty: Pictures are misleading. Heavy girl. Multiple profiles. I met her; I did not repeat, I have her PII. If anyone is contemplating a date, send me an email. You likely want to avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...8-d40b08e930f8

The Lost Traveler: classic tells of a TGTBT crypto scammer. I will try to confirm but be forewarned.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-a72ca15f6b70

Lilypad: I have reported on her in the past. She recently resurfaced and is reaching out to old contacts. She will never meet and is a complete time-waster. I have wished her onwards.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...1-d2eca80c1f3c

Phoenix15: Nice, shy girl. A bit too young for me. Wants online only. I am sending her to OF. She also has some attitude for a HS chick!

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...c-352ff120b018

AdorableQueen: "I know my worth. " GPS. Jealous husband! No texting but willing to video chat for a fee. Claims to have had SD's in the past. When asked how she managed meetings, she said they were mostly video chats. I am starting to get skeptical. *.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...4-f7ab38811f70

InnocentHottie: "Open your eyes, daddy!" The tagline conveys a lot. GPS and wants an allowance at the MnG. She is kinda confused in her ask but it sounds like $1000 a week for three meetings per week. Anything more than three meetings triggers a second grand. I tend to be verbose but she beats me on steroids!

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...2-7c06fc38d3d5

Bhadbbie, Morgan, Clifton / Reading, talks a good game by text but turns very shy in person, NO SEX! Cute but just a tease. Brought a girlfriend as chaperone.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/p...VB6LW5RdDOxW4n

SeductiveCutie:, a little heavier than my normal preference. Definitely dtf but, alas, I am too old for her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...9-01dce3a7bcfb

Some people have wondered why I am offering so much info. I have always kept a pretty good record of all the ones I need to avoid. I am still doing that. Now, I also copy-paste the record into a post here. I also have data on the ones I am chasing but I only rarely share that info and then only privately.

BAM.

**RickMann** · 03-25-22 05:38

Originally Posted by Decatur21 [View Original Post]

Anyone else notice how much older the girls are on Seeking lately? Seems like 60% or more are 30 or older and almost 90% are over 25. I understand why there are more older ones since it is being marketed as a dating site now, but where are all the younger girls? It seems like it's the same amount of girls showing green as always, but way older now. Before maybe 1 in 10 were 30 or older and half were under 25.

A lot of the younger ones are selling pics etc LOL.

**Tickle Jay** · 03-25-22 04:58

Originally Posted by RickMann [View Original Post]

Doesn't she get all crazy on guys?

My paid subscription is up in two weeks. Don't know if I'll renew. It's fun to flirt, but too many GPS.

**Decatur21** · 03-24-22 18:51

Anyone else notice how much older the girls are on Seeking lately? Seems like 60% or more are 30 or older and almost 90% are over 25. I understand why there are more older ones since it is being marketed as a dating site now, but where are all the younger girls? It seems like it's the same amount of girls showing green as always, but way older now. Before maybe 1 in 10 were 30 or older and half were under 25.

**AlanDodson** · 03-24-22 14:11

I know her in real life. I have never interacted with her in any mongering sense, but I do know she has a live in BF who is extremely jealous with multiple felonies. Definitely not the type who would be down with her doing this kind of thing so if you meet up with her I'd make sure its on neutral ground and not at her place.

Originally Posted by BamBam [View Original Post]

Browneeyedbeauty: Pictures are misleading. Heavy girl. Multiple profiles. I met her; I did not repeat, I have her PII. If anyone is contemplating a date, send me an email. You likely want to avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...8-d40b08e930f8

The Lost Traveler: classic tells of a TGTBT crypto scammer. I will try to confirm but be forewarned.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-a72ca15f6b70

Lilypad: I have reported on her in the past. She recently resurfaced and is reaching out to old contacts. She will never meet and is a complete time-waster. I have wished her onwards.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...1-d2eca80c1f3c

Phoenix15: Nice, shy girl. A bit too young for me. Wants online only. I am sending her to OF. She also has some attitude for a HS chick!..

**RickMann** · 03-24-22 06:44

Originally Posted by BamBam [View Original Post]

Browneeyedbeauty: Pictures are misleading. Heavy girl. Multiple profiles. I met her; I did not repeat, I have her PII. If anyone is contemplating a date, send me an email. You likely want to avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...8-d40b08e930f8

The Lost Traveler: classic tells of a TGTBT crypto scammer. I will try to confirm but be forewarned.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-a72ca15f6b70

Lilypad: I have reported on her in the past. She recently resurfaced and is reaching out to old contacts. She will never meet and is a complete time-waster. I have wished her onwards.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...1-d2eca80c1f3c

Phoenix15: Nice, shy girl. A bit too young for me. Wants online only. I am sending her to OF. She also has some attitude for a HS chick!

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...c-352ff120b018

AdorableQueen: "I know my worth. " GPS. Jealous husband! No texting but willing to video chat for a fee. Claims to have had SD's in the past. When asked how she managed meetings, she said they were mostly video chats. I am starting to get skeptical. *.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...4-f7ab38811f70

InnocentHottie: "Open your eyes, daddy!" The tagline conveys a lot. GPS and wants an allowance at the MnG. She is kinda confused in her ask but it sounds like $1000 a week for three meetings per week. Anything more than three meetings triggers a second grand. I tend to be verbose but she beats me on steroids!

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...2-7c06fc38d3d5

Bhadbbie, Morgan, Clifton / Reading, talks a good game by text but turns very shy in person, NO SEX! Cute but just a tease. Brought a girlfriend as chaperone.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/p...VB6LW5RdDOxW4n

SeductiveCutie:, a little heavier than my normal preference. Definitely dtf but, alas, I am too old for her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...9-01dce3a7bcfb

Some people have wondered why I am offering so much info. I have always kept a pretty good record of all the ones I need to avoid. I am still doing that. Now, I also copy-paste the record into a post here. I also have data on the ones I am chasing but I only rarely share that info and then only privately.

BAM.

Thanks for the info, al lot of these young chicks have big attitudes. I think number one and the last one don't look too heavy for me may try!!

**BamBam** · 03-23-22 17:06

Browneeyedbeauty: Pictures are misleading. Heavy girl. Multiple profiles. I met her; I did not repeat, I have her PII. If anyone is contemplating a date, send me an email. You likely want to avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...8-d40b08e930f8

The Lost Traveler: classic tells of a TGTBT crypto scammer. I will try to confirm but be forewarned.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-a72ca15f6b70

Lilypad: I have reported on her in the past. She recently resurfaced and is reaching out to old contacts. She will never meet and is a complete time-waster. I have wished her onwards.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...1-d2eca80c1f3c

Phoenix15: Nice, shy girl. A bit too young for me. Wants online only. I am sending her to OF. She also has some attitude for a HS chick!

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...c-352ff120b018

AdorableQueen: "I know my worth. " GPS. Jealous husband! No texting but willing to video chat for a fee. Claims to have had SD's in the past. When asked how she managed meetings, she said they were mostly video chats. I am starting to get skeptical. *.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...4-f7ab38811f70

InnocentHottie: "Open your eyes, daddy!" The tagline conveys a lot. GPS and wants an allowance at the MnG. She is kinda confused in her ask but it sounds like $1000 a week for three meetings per week. Anything more than three meetings triggers a second grand. I tend to be verbose but she beats me on steroids!

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...2-7c06fc38d3d5

Bhadbbie, Morgan, Clifton / Reading, talks a good game by text but turns very shy in person, NO SEX! Cute but just a tease. Brought a girlfriend as chaperone.

https://members.whatsyourprice.com/p...VB6LW5RdDOxW4n

SeductiveCutie:, a little heavier than my normal preference. Definitely dtf but, alas, I am too old for her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...9-01dce3a7bcfb

Some people have wondered why I am offering so much info. I have always kept a pretty good record of all the ones I need to avoid. I am still doing that. Now, I also copy-paste the record into a post here. I also have data on the ones I am chasing but I only rarely share that info and then only privately.

BAM.

**BamBam** · 03-23-22 17:01

Originally Posted by WarlockKy [View Original Post]

New profile, massive GPS, last time around she was looking for her own personal stock broker.

Eldenring.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-8b8fb5b99df9

I must have made a bad impression; she has me blocked. Sigh.

BAM.