Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

**SfoDavid67** · 03-02-22 14:35

This is an oddball request for this place, but I am hopeful. I start my new job in SEA on 3/14. I am trying to find a room to rent within 20 minutes of the airport. If anyone has any intel please PM me.

**Gostz1953** · 03-02-22 13:43

You do notice how I say bicycles don't pay these taxes. And yes, let's take it to it's logical conclusion. All government funded projects are the peoples. We get rights to vote on what they do with that money. We might not get to trespass at JBLM, but we can vote to defund that whole place. We get to decide what happens through voting. It is ours, all of ours. We, also, get to decide we want to fund it more if the protection it provides makes us safer.

Not missing the point. But you are clearly missing the point, if they are riding their bike instead of driving that they fund less of it. Almost nothing is mutually exclusive, but bicyclists don't put as much money in but yet want more rights to the road. Only a simpleton couldn't see how that works.

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

That is an interesting philosophy. If you take the idea "I paid taxes for it therefore it is partially mine" to its logical conclusion, doesn't that mean that we can all go down to JBLM and borrow a Stryker for a day? Or an F-15?

You miss the very important point that the vast majority of people who own and ride bikes also own motor vehicles and pay all of those taxes. Only in a very simplistic worldview would those two things be mutually exclusive.

And all those taxes don't completely pay for roads. The Federal Highway Trust fund has been losing money since 2008, and has been dependent on periodic donations from the general fund. Similar processes go on at the state and local level. So non gas-tax, non user-fee, and non-toll money are paying for our roads.

**Brian Shinamot** · 03-02-22 13:03

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**Marko Ramius** · 03-02-22 11:17

Originally Posted by Gostz1953 [View Original Post]

...Bikes don't use gas so can't even fathom how you think they pay for the roads. ... If Walter pays taxes that is partially his lane. Funded by him and his hard work. By a lot of our hard work. If you have the time to ride a bike all around cause you have nothing better to do, go to the fucking forest and out of the way of hard working civilization.

That is an interesting philosophy. If you take the idea "I paid taxes for it therefore it is partially mine" to its logical conclusion, doesn't that mean that we can all go down to JBLM and borrow a Stryker for a day? Or an F-15?

You miss the very important point that the vast majority of people who own and ride bikes also own motor vehicles and pay all of those taxes. Only in a very simplistic worldview would those two things be mutually exclusive.

And all those taxes don't completely pay for roads. The Federal Highway Trust fund has been losing money since 2008, and has been dependent on periodic donations from the general fund. Similar processes go on at the state and local level. So non gas-tax, non user-fee, and non-toll money are paying for our roads.

**Brian Shinamot** · 03-02-22 00:16

Originally Posted by Camhole [View Original Post]

You do realize that you arguing with a guy that got banned from the TV Guide website for arguing in the comment section.

Why do more than half of your posts seem to be about playing Whack A Mole, calling out people for making another alt? Most of your contributions should be related to the hobby, rather than criticizing other people.

**Gostz1953** · 03-02-22 00:15

This is very untrue. Cars and trucks don't do 100% of the damage to roads. Weather contributes a ton to that. Look what heat waves do to cement and bridges. Fuel taxes are top 5 in the country in WA state. Bikes don't use gas so can't even fathom how you think they pay for the roads. RE taxes heavily go to Fire Departments, Police and schools. Not hard to find if you know how to google. Link to Department of Revenue Website pie chart explaining this here.

https://dor.wa.gov/sites/default/fil...ax/homeown.pdf

Vehicle tabs (again something a bicyclists don't pay for) fund other road projects as well as alternative forms of transportation like the light rail. Excise taxes for trucking businesses etc. pay for road projects. Shoot all the business owners pay for these taxes as well. Wonder how your bikes will get transported here without. Wait for it. Vehicles. How will your kids go to school without. Wait for it. Busses. The whole world runs on vehicles that use gas. The bicyclist is just too dense to realize that their self righteousness doesn't pay for shit. Shoot Seattle has an extra. 3% sales tax on vehicle purchases that go to the roads. Guess what, your bicyle purchase doesn't come with an extra. 3% tax when you buy it. The list goes on. Take vehicles away and all these businesses shut down. Vehicles subsidize your entire being. You ain't getting shit from Amazon online orders without the use of a vehicle. All businesses pretty much would shut down without the heavy lifting by the cars. BTW, don't argue back. I do taxes for a living. You will just look silly. If Walter pays taxes that is partially his lane. Funded by him and his hard work. By a lot of our hard work. If you have the time to ride a bike all around cause you have nothing better to do, go to the fucking forest and out of the way of hard working civilization. Don't get in our way and slow us down to your level. Most of us have shit to do. Cause we got to make enough to subsidize the weak as bike riders and our own shit we want.

Originally Posted by EngrJoe [View Original Post]

It's not YOUR lane and there is no requirement to use a bike lane in this state. All users pay property taxes either directly or through rent and it's your motor vehicle use that is subsidized. Cars and trucks do 100% percent of the damage but only contribute an extra 2-4% in vehicle taxes for city and county roads. State gas tax allocated to cities must be used for roads.

**Camhole** · 03-01-22 23:35

Originally Posted by EngrJoe [View Original Post]

It's not YOUR lane and there is no requirement to use a bike lane in this state. All users pay property taxes either directly or through rent and it's your motor vehicle use that is subsidized. Cars and trucks do 100% percent of the damage but only contribute an extra 2-4% in vehicle taxes for city and county roads. State gas tax allocated to cities must be used for roads.

You do realize that you arguing with a guy that got banned from the TV Guide website for arguing in the comment section.

**MartyByrde** · 03-01-22 19:59

Originally Posted by EngrJoe [View Original Post]

It's not YOUR lane and there is no requirement to use a bike lane in this state. All users pay property taxes either directly or through rent and it's your motor vehicle use that is subsidized. Cars and trucks do 100% percent of the damage but only contribute an extra 2-4% in vehicle taxes for city and county roads. State gas tax allocated to cities must be used for roads.

Yes, it is not my lane, but I PAID the $1450 over and above all the taxes, etc. For the improvement, including the bicycle lane. Hence, I am correct in expecting bicyclists to use the lane and stay out of my car lane. And that bicyclist is definitely causing issues doing that. It is only a 2 lane road, and at that part (actually along the entire road), it is illegal to cross that line and enter the other lane. But I guess that bicyclist (and obviously others) who cannot exercise maturity or common sense. Plus, I'll say it again: his 2 buddies Were in the bicycle lane.

**EngrJoe** · 03-01-22 18:38

Originally Posted by WalterWhite99 [View Original Post]

You are missing the essential point. I already stated that we needed to pay the $1450 assessment separately (as other condo / townhome / home owners needed to do). I am positive that a non-resident bicyclist did not make such a payment. So, my incident with that idiot bicyclist (giving me the finger when he was in my lane, and not in the bike lane, while his other 2 friends were) is accurate, and that he really needed to be disciplined. Remember, he was impeding my progress, not the other way around.

It's not YOUR lane and there is no requirement to use a bike lane in this state. All users pay property taxes either directly or through rent and it's your motor vehicle use that is subsidized. Cars and trucks do 100% percent of the damage but only contribute an extra 2-4% in vehicle taxes for city and county roads. State gas tax allocated to cities must be used for roads.

**MartyByrde** · 03-01-22 14:56

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

How exactly do you figure that?

Are you assuming that all bicycle owners pay no taxes? Or that all bicycle owners don't own or use a car at all?

If you are talking about gas taxes, tolls, license fees, and the like, there are hard numbers. In Washington those taxes pay for about 64% of all road costs. And Washington is on the relatively high end of those numbers nationwide.

Bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure accounts for about two percent of road spending.

Sources:

https://taxfoundation.org/states-road-funding-2019/

https://ggwash.org/view/36053/more-p...-pay-for-roads

If there is some program out there that says that bicyclists don't need to pay taxes, all I can say is that I wish I knew about it sooner.

You are missing the essential point. I already stated that we needed to pay the $1450 assessment separately (as other condo / townhome / home owners needed to do). I am positive that a non-resident bicyclist did not make such a payment. So, my incident with that idiot bicyclist (giving me the finger when he was in my lane, and not in the bike lane, while his other 2 friends were) is accurate, and that he really needed to be disciplined. Remember, he was impeding my progress, not the other way around.

**Brian Shinamot** · 03-01-22 11:52

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**Marko Ramius** · 03-01-22 10:42

Originally Posted by WalterWhite99 [View Original Post]

... And remember, we paid for that bike lane, not the bicyclist.

How exactly do you figure that?

Are you assuming that all bicycle owners pay no taxes? Or that all bicycle owners don't own or use a car at all?

If you are talking about gas taxes, tolls, license fees, and the like, there are hard numbers. In Washington those taxes pay for about 64% of all road costs. And Washington is on the relatively high end of those numbers nationwide.

Bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure accounts for about two percent of road spending.

Sources:

https://taxfoundation.org/states-road-funding-2019/

https://ggwash.org/view/36053/more-p...-pay-for-roads

If there is some program out there that says that bicyclists don't need to pay taxes, all I can say is that I wish I knew about it sooner.

**Brian Shinamot** · 03-01-22 09:49

Originally Posted by WalterWhite99 [View Original Post]

You are wrong about the use of the horn. That bicyclist I encountered a few years back was in the wrong. Not legally, but morally. Also, he certainly did not show any maturity. Plus his two buddies were in the bicycle lane. And remember, we paid for that bike lane, not the bicyclist.

As for sharing the road, where there is a dedicated bicycle lane (assuming it is not completely full, which is rare), no need for sharing. Both the motorists and the bicyclist need to exercise both common sense and maturity, plain and simple.

Reminds me of when I was in the right. You let people out of the elevator first! These two girls just walk in together to the elevator, giggling, smiling, totally oblivious that they should be letting me out first.

Then their asshole male friend comes in, we make eye contact, and we're glaring at each other. What he needs to realize is, just because those two girls are his friends, does not mean that they are automatically right all the time. What's going to happen if those girls do the same thing to someone else, and he's not there to protect them? What if those girls do it to some real mean bitchy woman, who will curse them out or even physically attack them? Because then, that's woman on woman, and all things are fair at that point.

I thought about this elevator incident, when you talked about the guy in the bike lane, with his two buddies. Like the elevator, the pack mentality kicks in.

**Brian Shinamot** · 03-01-22 09:44

There is all this talk about how women have feeling and emotions, and how we need to keep that in mind. I don't disagree with that.

So, why the hell is it, that we don't seem to take into account, that males also have feelings and emotions? It's 2022. We don't live in the cave man days anymore. Yet, we still live in this macho, boot camp, drill Sargent mentality, that men and males are these bullet-proof beings, that you can do and say anything to, and they're not supposed to feel certain ways about it.

You don't have to come on this board and openly admit it. But, if you were to tell the honest truth, you would acknowledge that on this thread alone, so many men are dying on the inside, as they and other men are just beating the shit out of each other, with verbal insults.

Remember, fisticuffs is far from the only way that a male can be badly harmed and damaged.

Step back and think about all of this for a moment, rather than dismissing it.

**MartyByrde** · 03-01-22 00:15

Originally Posted by EddyWhtwtr [View Original Post]

In general, bicycles have the same rights to roadways and are subject to same traffic regs as cars, with obvious exceptions like freeways where non-motorized vehicles are prohibited. Bike lanes provide a separate and safer right of way that can help minimize car / cycle conflict, and I think cyclists are wise to use them but they are not legally obligated to do so.

And yes there are jerks on 2 wheels just like there are on 4 wheels. It doesn't help either group to fly the bird on the way by, nor honestly does use of the horn (which comes across as, "get the F out of my way! Other than perhaps a quick toot to let someone know you're going to pass. In my experience though, as both an automobile driver and cyclist, most people try to share the road.

You are wrong about the use of the horn. That bicyclist I encountered a few years back was in the wrong. Not legally, but morally. Also, he certainly did not show any maturity. Plus his two buddies were in the bicycle lane. And remember, we paid for that bike lane, not the bicyclist.

As for sharing the road, where there is a dedicated bicycle lane (assuming it is not completely full, which is rare), no need for sharing. Both the motorists and the bicyclist need to exercise both common sense and maturity, plain and simple.