Stupid Shit In San Diego

[RChangDatyKing]

I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.

I'm sorry but I've been to VIP more times than I can count and only to Cris's AAMP setup once and I will continue to pick VIP over Cris's supposedly safe setup, anytime. First, Cris does not do any screening of her clients unlike the other well established AAMPs like SDAG or FEC. This is nowhere a safe practice IMO. I'm sorry but going to a spa is much safer than to an apartment where no screening is done on clients; 2nd- Cris handles all the scheduling and there's continued to be reports of Bait and Switch with her shop so you may not always get who you want to see, whereas with VIP and other known AMPs you can see a lineup. I've seen Cris and she's a good masseuse; that's is it she's a good masseuse. Yes, Cris is better than all the granny shops but when compared to VIP, 108, etc. Her setup cannot compare in terms of service offered and the over looks of the girls IMO.

There will continue to be shills that will promote their agendas. When they continue to take jabs at just one spa time after time, and that spa is well reviewed by so many mongers just on this forum alone it's makes you wonder, what's his / their agenda to take jabs at VIP? Do your research folks and be informed! Read the reviews and go where you are comfortable!

LMFAO. I posted the above and I get a PM from a member asking if I've seen any full reviews on Venus, or if I've tried Venus with Cris's shop? This member also tried to throw VIP under the bus with his one post about them. LOL.

[PoonTangJohnny]

I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.

I'm sorry but I've been to VIP more times than I can count and only to Cris's AAMP setup once and I will continue to pick VIP over Cris's supposedly safe setup, anytime. First, Cris does not do any screening of her clients unlike the other well established AAMPs like SDAG or FEC. This is nowhere a safe practice IMO. I'm sorry but going to a spa is much safer than to an apartment where no screening is done on clients; 2nd- Cris handles all the scheduling and there's continued to be reports of Bait and Switch with her shop so you may not always get who you want to see, whereas with VIP and other known AMPs you can see a lineup. I've seen Cris and she's a good masseuse; that's is it she's a good masseuse. Yes, Cris is better than all the granny shops but when compared to VIP, 108, etc. Her setup cannot compare in terms of service offered and the over looks of the girls IMO.

There will continue to be shills that will promote their agendas. When they continue to take jabs at just one spa that time after time is well reviewed by so many mongers just on this forum alone it's makes you wonder, what's his / their agenda to take jabs at VIP? Do your research folks and be informed! Read the reviews and go where you are comfortable!

I for one, appreciate you addressing this subject (shills and agendas), King. I'm pretty certain, that there are many others here, who share these exact same sentiments you brought up.

For the record, I've been to VIP, 108 and several other AMP's, more times than I can remember, and spent more money than I want to know. I've never once had a single problem, other than maybe a disappointment or 2 regarding the sub par services I received.

On the other hand, like yourself, I too have been to Kris exactly 1 time. My experience too, was a blatant bait and switch on her part, and for that reason alone, I will never go back. It's very clear to me what is going on, regarding this member (shill) you mentioned, and his agenda regarding VIP. TY.

[RChangDatyKing]

I think we all have our favorite agencies, AMPs, independents, etc and we like to support them when we can. But when there is / are member (s) who makes positive mentions of one group that he / they like to promote the group then take jabs at just one AMP (VIP) in the same post implying there are risks going to VIP clearly shows his / their intent to discourage others from going to VIP, IMO.

I'm sorry but I've been to VIP more times than I can count and only to Cris's AAMP setup once and I will continue to pick VIP over Cris's supposedly safe setup, anytime. First, Cris does not do any screening of her clients unlike the other well established AAMPs like SDAG or FEC. This is nowhere a safe practice IMO. I'm sorry but going to a spa is much safer than to an apartment where no screening is done on clients; 2nd- Cris handles all the scheduling and there's continued to be reports of Bait and Switch with her shop so you may not always get who you want to see, whereas with VIP and other known AMPs you can see a lineup. I've seen Cris and she's a good masseuse; that's is it she's a good masseuse. Yes, Cris is better than all the granny shops but when compared to VIP, 108, etc. Her setup cannot compare in terms of service offered and the over looks of the girls IMO.

There will continue to be shills that will promote their agendas. When they continue to take jabs at just one spa that time after time is well reviewed by so many mongers just on this forum alone it's makes you wonder, what's his / their agenda to take jabs at VIP? Do your research folks and be informed! Read the reviews and go where you are comfortable!

[MaximusKahn]

Well sometimes if I've been inactive for awhile, let's say 1 month, some of these providers don't remember you, and some will have a moniker for your number that they've saved, I. E. "BBC banger" (British Born Chinese). LOL.

I just have to request some questions if the money or service has stayed the same. I have had texts from providers who constantly ask when I will be back in town and such. (Nice to be noticed and wanted, ya know).

We all have questions. The questions that can be answered by some simple research on this site or another site with a little bit of work are what gets funny.

Nobody who is very active at Mongering and had established good relationships with providers wants to just share all with lurkers and trolls who simply ask for all.

[Mr MuffMan]

I'm talking about guys with different handles just on this USASG site.

I have different handles on other sites.

I think you're right. Some probably got banned and then resurface using another handle. Some might have multiple handles to promote whatever agenda they're trying to promote. Who knows?

Mr MuffMan.

[DrPornDawger]

Any Nubie who thinks just because he knows a place, a name, and what you got, and thinks he's going to get what you got is not into reality. It's not likely anyone gets a special menu on a first visit, regardless of what you know about what someone else is getting.

Relationships take many factors to getting extras on the menu. Time, Tips, Chemistry, Attitude, and Attraction to names a few variables.

So its not Your Mileage May Vary, but more Your Mileage Will Vary.

The high mileage mongers are very generous with their posts, so the lazy, lurkers, and trolls should be grateful for what they get for free.

The questions that alway make me laugh.

What is the address? What did you tip? And lately someone asked, Where do you park?

Thank you to all the high mileage mongers who share so freely and generously.

Well sometimes if I've been inactive for awhile, let's say 1 month, some of these providers don't remember you, and some will have a moniker for your number that they've saved, I. E. "BBC banger" (British Born Chinese). LOL.

I just have to request some questions if the money or service has stayed the same. I have had texts from providers who constantly ask when I will be back in town and such. (Nice to be noticed and wanted, ya know).

[RChangDatyKing]

I try to keep it simple. USASG / HX / T3 R are all the same. The only different one is Rubmaps, not sure what was going on when I created that username. LOL.

I'm talking about guys with different handles just on this USASG site.

I have different handles on other sites.

[DragonWolf]

Yes it is. I used to post a lot more and included more details about nonFS spas and independents, but not anymore because yahoos like him. The guy haven't posted since. I think he changed or made a new handle, but whatever. I think there are guys with multiple handles because of how they posts or ask questions. Don't know why they want multiple handles, but whatever.

I'm still having fun and appreciate the guys I do and can share intel with and know it's between us.

I try to keep it simple. USASG / HX / T3 R are all the same. The only different one is Rubmaps, not sure what was going on when I created that username. LOL.

[RChangDatyKing]

Ooof. That's shady AF.

That's that "If I can't have none, you can't neither. " attitude that just ruins things for everyone.

Yes it is. I used to post a lot more and included more details about nonFS spas and independents, but not anymore because yahoos like him. The guy haven't posted since. I think he changed or made a new handle, but whatever. I think there are guys with multiple handles because of how they posts or ask questions. Don't know why they want multiple handles, but whatever.

I'm still having fun and appreciate the guys I do and can share intel with and know it's between us.

[DragonWolf]

when she told him she doesn't offer anything more to anyone he then showed her my PM to him talking about the outfits, services, exact tip amount, etc.

Ooof. That's shady AF.

That's that "If I can't have none, you can't neither. " attitude that just ruins things for everyone.

[Mike Gib]

The questions that alway make me laugh.

What is the address?

Heavy laugh, I can't scroll half a page on RR w / o seeing an ad w / address and number listed. Highly suspect behavior.

[MaximusKahn]

Any Nubie who thinks just because he knows a place, a name, and what you got, and thinks he's going to get what you got is not into reality. It's not likely anyone gets a special menu on a first visit, regardless of what you know about what someone else is getting.

Relationships take many factors to getting extras on the menu. Time, Tips, Chemistry, Attitude, and Attraction to names a few variables.

So its not Your Mileage May Vary, but more Your Mileage Will Vary.

The high mileage mongers are very generous with their posts, so the lazy, lurkers, and trolls should be grateful for what they get for free.

The questions that alway make me laugh.

What is the address? What did you tip? And lately someone asked, Where do you park?

Thank you to all the high mileage mongers who share so freely and generously.

[RChangDatyKing]

Problem with this is the clich "It takes 1 to ruin it for everyone" comes to mind.

I was a regular with a tall, slim thick asian. I used see her every payday, where ever she was at (within reason) for about 2 years. Then she started not to host down where I am, and I didn't see anything from her and I just moved on. She returned and some gentlemen in this forum (you can probably search my posts anyway, not going to hide it at all) had questions about meeting her. Some gentlemen asked directly, and I gave the info willingly as I was new to the board and not knowing if I was being a total dick if I don't. Unfortunately, circumastances changed what she offered to me before. She stopped D / LFK, DATY, 69, and FOV / FIV. She always posted no GFE, but I was an exception. Come to find out, someone took it too far, and now she flat out doesn't offer it to anyone anymore. Period. Even me (as I've been seeing her since 2008 ish).

It's hypothetical, or just probably coincidence, that this happened a couple of days after I offered the info, and upset that I could've caused the change in service. But hey, you move on as best you can.

I'm just hesitant in giving ANY info up when asked directly, or will only just reaffirm what everyone else says about an escort / masseuse. Sometimes I will give up the ghost as it may within reason. But when there's more than enough info for one to read through posts, or just too lazy to do their own reasearch, I begin to question why do I have to offer my reasearch to someone not willing to do the same for me? Especially when some of this info is all subjective?

I dunno. Just my 2 cents on this particular topic.

*waiting for VIP2 to reopen* LOL.

I've posted about a similar experience. The asshole was a Senior member who had been seeing some of the same girls I was regularly seeing. Because he and I had exchanged intel before I thought he understood what we discussed was between us. Anyways, he was seeing a provider and wanted more than just the FBSM but she never went beyond. During one of our intel exchanges I told him I got more offered from her. I knew she didn't offered this to anyone else because she had a SO. I gave some specific details because he inquired about them- outfit request, services offered, usual tip amount, etc. This yahoo then continues to make requests with this provider and when she told him she doesn't offer anything more to anyone he then showed her my PM to him talking about the outfits, services, exact tip amount, etc.

This is why I will not go into any real details of services offered by independents, masseuses at nonFS spas because there are Aholes that don't have hobbying etiquette.

Yes, I'll respond to any level members if they contribute or share intel with me. About a dozen of members I exchange intel with they have less than 10 posts. Their intel are solid so I trust them, but they know not to ask me about anything beyond XYZ. Or about BareFS because they understand YMMV. I will definitely put folks on my ignore list if they post shit, ask about bareFS in open forum when the girls have never been reviewed offering said service, or if they have or promote agendas.

[Wahoo2000]

Problem with this is the clich "It takes 1 to ruin it for everyone" comes to mind.

I was a regular with a tall, slim thick asian. I used see her every payday, where ever she was at (within reason) for about 2 years. Then she started not to host down where I am, and I didn't see anything from her and I just moved on. She returned and some gentlemen in this forum (you can probably search my posts anyway, not going to hide it at all) had questions about meeting her. Some gentlemen asked directly, and I gave the info willingly as I was new to the board and not knowing if I was being a total dick if I don't. Unfortunately, circumastances changed what she offered to me before. She stopped D / LFK, DATY, 69, and FOV / FIV. She always posted no GFE, but I was an exception. Come to find out, someone took it too far, and now she flat out doesn't offer it to anyone anymore. Period. Even me (as I've been seeing her since 2008 ish).

It's hypothetical, or just probably coincidence, that this happened a couple of days after I offered the info, and upset that I could've caused the change in service. But hey, you move on as best you can.

I'm just hesitant in giving ANY info up when asked directly, or will only just reaffirm what everyone else says about an escort / masseuse. Sometimes I will give up the ghost as it may within reason. But when there's more than enough info for one to read through posts, or just too lazy to do their own reasearch, I begin to question why do I have to offer my reasearch to someone not willing to do the same for me? Especially when some of this info is all subjective?

I dunno. Just my 2 cents on this particular topic.

*waiting for VIP2 to reopen* LOL.

I never ever ever ever talk about extras / off-menu stuff when messaged by newbies (under30-50 posts, very little intel offered, always asking for intel). At best, I'll cut and paste the menu a girl sends me. For more senior contributors, I'm happy to say something like, "there may be some extras available, but not sure if it's offered to everyone so YMMV".

[SfoDavid67]

Is your name in this famous list?

https://patch.com/california/murriet...-lake-elsinore

Riverside County, CA A statewide sting operation last week targeting online prostitution netted hundreds of arrests across California, including 38 Riverside County residents nine of them from the cities of Lake Elsinore, Menifee, Murrieta and Temecula.

The four-day-long "Operation Reclaim & Rebuild" was conducted Feb. 7-10 in Riverside County and involved local law enforcement agencies from across the region along with federal investigators from the USA Department of Homeland Security. The local crackdown coincided with Operation Reclaim & Rebuild stings across the state.

During the Riverside County law enforcement effort, task force members arrested 31 males and seven females for misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution. See the full list of names here.

Stings are going on all over the country, they are not going away anytime. Most of the guys get the book thrown at them pretty hard, the girls often get charges dropped if they get help. I know in some areas the local PD actually get the girls to go to work for them, especially if they are well known and well reviewed to bring in their "trusted" clients.

Getting busted sucks, and it can and likely will completely destroy your life as you know it. So be very careful.