Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[Street Troller]

Well that just sounds like his thing. We all have our requirements that get us going, sometimes I'm not sure we even know why. There are guys who save-up for the Bunny Ranch and other legal brothels in Nevada. Not my thing, just too.... I don't know, but not really my thing. I can't put my finger on it. But some guys love it. When they think about the hobby that's the perception which pops into their heads, so that's what they go for. I think this is why a lot of guys are paying the overly made-up SoCal hookers out on Aurora. When they think of paying for a sex worker, that's the image which comes into their minds. They want the 20 minute impersonal, plastic, overly made-up circus freak show for $$$. It's how they envision it and it's what gets them off. Doesn't do it for me, but the girls are still in business, so....

Same with strip clubs. I don't get the point, but I knew a guy who absolutely loved them. He'd go every weekend and drop a lot of dough on dances, then have one or two come back to his place afterward. He'd spend a couple thousand sometimes. Not my thing, but that's what he liked and it got him off. I can scream and b****h and whine like a little c***t all I want and it still won't put those girls out of business. I mean, come on here.

Guys it doesn't matter. None of this matters. None of it. There's a price-range for everyone's situation. There are a variety of experiences at every level. Some good experiences at low price points, some bad experiences at high price points but none of that matters. We all go where our comfort, perception and experience exists. That's different for me as it is for you as it is for anyone else. It's ridiculous to even debate it.

he can afford to fly to Europe every month to fuck ****** in Germany at 50 euro a pop.

[SfoDavid67]

"Multi-Millionaire" is table-stakes in this area. Redfin has Bellevue's median home price at $1.25 million. The average tech salary in this area gets you there in under a decade even with reasonable living expenses.

His dumpster-diving hobby sounds like a personal kink. You can't save your way to riches $500 at a time.

He lives outside of Austin, not in Seattle. But he can afford to fly to Europe every month to fuck ****** in Germany at 50 euro a pop.

[HH216]

I agree that some cyclists can be obnoxious jerks. But there are a lot of motorists who are obnoxious jerks as well, the difference being that one group of obnoxious jerks are operating tons of metal and machinery that can easily kill people, while the other group dresses in odd clothing. And that's why I think motorists need to be held to a higher standard: simply because they can kill and injure others so easily.

When I was younger and a bike was my primary mode of transportation, I was always aware of the weight advantage motor vehicles had over me. Had I been given the opportunity of a bike lane I would be in that sucker all the time. There are a great many bi-cyclist that seem to have a holier than thou attitude towards cars (that pay for their bike lanes BTW) and feel entitled to the roads they do not contribute to.

And for the record, yes, I was hit be (more than once) by a car making a right turn and not seeing me while riding as far to the right of the road as possible.

[Rousse]

LOL, I have a friend that is a multi millionaire and he almost ALWAYS seeks out the cheapest provider. He refuses to pay over $200.

"Multi-Millionaire" is table-stakes in this area. Redfin has Bellevue's median home price at $1.25 million. The average tech salary in this area gets you there in under a decade even with reasonable living expenses.

His dumpster-diving hobby sounds like a personal kink. You can't save your way to riches $500 at a time.

[BusSit69]

It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.

Thats how they stay RICH, by minimizing cost. Rich cheap bastards LOL.

[SfoDavid67]

It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.

LOL, I have a friend that is a multi millionaire and he almost ALWAYS seeks out the cheapest provider. He refuses to pay over $200. The only time I would pay way up is for a once in a life time experience. Say a BBFS with a hot fresh young porn star in a filmed session for me to go back and watch and enjoy. My top end would be say $300 for an hour, and part of that would really have to involve a connection with the girl. Some of my best sessions included non sex time in the hour just cuddling and talking.

[Marko Ramius]

It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.

A lot of these girls are horrible blabbermouths. And Seattle isn't exactly a big city. I've had sessions with girls where they spoke at length at the other guys they'd seen, and it wouldn't have been hard to identify who they were.

This is one reason I almost never pick playmates on STG or TNA or any of those. I also stopped seeing one very good agency in Seattle because their girls were a little too talkative.

[Jonderin]

It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.

I've paid hookers low, medium, and high rates. There isn't any correlation to quality. It's always a crapshoot.

[SeattleMassage]

It is also just how we all perceive value. If I had Bezos money I still wouldn't be spending what some of you guys spend on a provider it just would never happen. In my book no woman on the planet is worth what some of you guys say you spend. Even if I had billions I wouldn't be giving a provider like 700 dollars.

[Rousse]

That's all well and good, but most folks with money actually spend it more wisely. However, if you want to keep spending the way you do, fine.

I do spend wisely. When I spend "money". $700 is not "money". Anyone sweating that, anyone who rushes to McDonald's for the Dollar Meal Deal, can't afford this past time.

[Buggsy52]

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[BBPornoGeek]

Your perception is not my perception and perhaps your finances do not look like my finances.

A Honda doesn't drive like, feel like or coddle like a Tesla or BMW. My neighborhood is very expensive, but it's worth it for the convenience, security, saved time and lower commute and pleasant surroundings. In both cases, the cost isn't a big barrier for me. Same with an entertainment consultant. My time costs more than her time, so I care more about her promptness than her cost.

The last $700 consultant provided an amazing experience. The last below-$300 consultant provided an epic disaster of one. The best, most expensive are not typically on TNA or SkipTheGames. Try P411.

Exactly this! Me wasting an hour or 2 dealing with flakes and time management issues costs more than the $700 for someone who is prompt and provides services as expected.

[MartyByrde]

Your perception is not my perception and perhaps your finances do not look like my finances.

A Honda doesn't drive like, feel like or coddle like a Tesla or BMW. My neighborhood is very expensive, but it's worth it for the convenience, security, saved time and lower commute and pleasant surroundings. In both cases, the cost isn't a big barrier for me. Same with an entertainment consultant. My time costs more than her time, so I care more about her promptness than her cost.

The last $700 consultant provided an amazing experience. The last below-$300 consultant provided an epic disaster of one. The best, most expensive are not typically on TNA or SkipTheGames. Try P411.

That's all well and good, but most folks with money actually spend it more wisely. However, if you want to keep spending the way you do, fine. There is still, though, nothing wrong with voicing one's disdain about provider rates (or anything else, for that matter). Again, as long as one does not demean the op, things are good. Also, there is the possibility we'll learn something from such discourse.

[Rousse]

I too do not see what is "wrong" with expressing disappointment in other men paying more than what is commonly accepted as the standard rate. ... I don't buy overpriced groceries and cars and houses either no matter what the other people are doing.

Your perception is not my perception and perhaps your finances do not look like my finances.

A Honda doesn't drive like, feel like or coddle like a Tesla or BMW. My neighborhood is very expensive, but it's worth it for the convenience, security, saved time and lower commute and pleasant surroundings. In both cases, the cost isn't a big barrier for me. Same with an entertainment consultant. My time costs more than her time, so I care more about her promptness than her cost.

The last $700 consultant provided an amazing experience. The last below-$300 consultant provided an epic disaster of one. The best, most expensive are not typically on TNA or SkipTheGames. Try P411.

[MartyByrde]

Sure, but you're talking about chips here. You can get the exact same chip with the exact same quality from store to store. But when we're talking about providers / people, that isn't the case. They are vastly different from person to person. No one person is the same. I've had great experiences at lower rates, but I've also very bad experiences at the same rate. It varies wildly when it comes to humans.

True, but I make the choice as to which providers I visit. And if part of that is based on donation amount, so be it. There are other hobbyists that have strict spending limits for providers, as do I.

As for convenience, even if an attractive woman, with excellent service, was closer to where I am, I would still have the same donation limits, and would not visit her.

In actuality, I've never visited a woman whose rates were above my limit. As it is, have seen comments from a number of hobbyists that such experiences were not that great. I've had many great experiences with women that charge rates which are within my budget. That is all I need.

You just said it right there - "Winco is closer to me than Walmart". That's convenience. Sure, you'll go there because chips are cheaper, but it's also closer. If some hot provider is closer and she a bit more $, most guys are going to do it. Not all, but I'm willing to wager most will. Convenience.

See my remarks above about convenience.

Sure it does, but you never mentioned saving money for your future or a rainy day. You've always talked about refusing to pay higher rates so that providers lower said rates. Having said that, if my financial situation allows me to pay more and still save money, it's not a concern for me. That's that thing. What's expensive and takes from your savings to you isn't a hindrance to someone else. This is why Walmart can still carry those chips for a higher price and still be in business.

LOL

Of course I save for the future and / or a rainy day. Have been doing that for a long, long time. My financial situation also allows me the opportunity to spend more than I want to, but I choose to exercise discretion with my spending.