"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Raheem]

So in the last week, I have gotten texts from 2 POTs, that I had conversations with last summer, when I was on the site. I had a tonne of balls in the air, so a few going ghost wasn't a problem. Both no longer have profiles posted. I saved pics of the girls and one of the profiles. Both are single Moms in their 30's.

Can't figure out if this is legit or what is up? Did these girls finally just burn through the SDs from last summer and instead of re-upping on SA, hit all of their old contacts? Or is there some kind of scam or something LE like nefarious I need to be concerned with?

One seems to want to meet and wants funds so she can pay a sitter, so not really into a M&G, just get to it. (Haven't seen her on any of the local escorts sites and she says she isn't sexually active.) The other set a M&G meeting, but now is texting her BR preferences, wants to be dominated and is calling me "Daddy" already. It's nice, but seems a little too soon / fast?

So Spidey Senses are tingling a bit. Perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid? Other views?

Not unusual. I had a 30 day membership last summer and loaded up on texts and saw 4 from that crop. Some of the ones I didn't see for price reasons still contact me with their GPS quotes. They're just getting back to old contacts like we do all the time.

[Raheem]

STG gal wanting to become a sugar baby https://members.seeking.com/member/7...f-93cd15f9e56b.

Link to her STG ad with a couple of the same pics. https://richmond.skipthegames.com/fe...d/632432379176 Haven't seen any reviews in the Escort forum on her.

She had reviews about 4 months ago with the monkey causing her to nod out. She's also on tryst. Link. She used to room with Dakota at the Hull St. House.

[SBmidlo]

STG gal wanting to become a sugar baby https://members.seeking.com/member/7...f-93cd15f9e56b.

Link to her STG ad with a couple of the same pics. https://richmond.skipthegames.com/fe...d/632432379176 Haven't seen any reviews in the Escort forum on her.

[RegularJoe1985]

It seems that there is no need to add Zipcode to the card before using, is that correct? Or should one call and add the Zipcode thru CS?.

[Shampoo55]

So in the last week, I have gotten texts from 2 POTs, that I had conversations with last summer, when I was on the site. I had a tonne of balls in the air, so a few going ghost wasn't a problem. Both no longer have profiles posted. I saved pics of the girls and one of the profiles. Both are single Moms in their 30's.

Can't figure out if this is legit or what is up? Did these girls finally just burn through the SDs from last summer and instead of re-upping on SA, hit all of their old contacts? Or is there some kind of scam or something LE like nefarious I need to be concerned with?

One seems to want to meet and wants funds so she can pay a sitter, so not really into a M&G, just get to it. (Haven't seen her on any of the local escorts sites and she says she isn't sexually active.) The other set a M&G meeting, but now is texting her BR preferences, wants to be dominated and is calling me "Daddy" already. It's nice, but seems a little too soon / fast?

So Spidey Senses are tingling a bit. Perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid? Other views?

[Tidad]

Oh no! Nothing wrong with WYP as there are EXPLICIT and clear warnings that "Sex Should Not Be Expected On A Date!" WYP is VERY clear with that! WYP is paying $ to a girl to come eat & drink food you pay for at an expensive restaurant and she is free to (and expects to) leave no-strings attached once her belly is full. If one is expecting the girl will sleep with you after the meal, they are going to find out there is a difference of opinion or intention between the parties in most cases.

After all, "traditional" escorting: Going out to dinner, going to the theater, going to a function with eye-candy on your arm is NOT illegal. In fact, most gray-haired judges think this is what is going on, on most escort websites, since sex for money is illegal.

I was on WYP ONCE! Never got a single date out of it as girls faked and flaked. Maybe Wade's conscience will change and he'll close the WYP site down? (or his lawyers advise him to shutter it?

DO NOT think of Secret Benefits as an alternative IF it comes to that. SB uses a "credits" system where you spend your credits to initiate contact. Problem is that there is no governance to prevent fake or BOT profiles and couple that with the flakiness of POTs as seen on SA, hit rates are much lower and "spend" per date much higher!

Other sites have a specific challenge. They don't have the VOLUME to make them viable. SA has 10 women for every guy! Not sure how other sites will be able to recruit and attract women as that is the key. Just like a bar that wants to be popular. If the girls are there the guys will show up!

I've had 4 dates from WYP: cock tease and 3 absolute rockstar level fucks including a 19 yo red head who stayed the weekend for a grand. Then disappeared. In the end, it was for the best, she would have bankrupted me or given me a stroke.

[RegularJoe1985]

I have posted specifically about this earlier. Perhaps the mods can move this to the archive, where you guys can ignore it. Yes, it appears that OneVanilla is undergoing rebranding in some markets. I have indeed seen the SecureSpend cards, they have the same packaging as OneVanille, in that the plastic window is vertical rather than horizontal. I have personally used SecureSpend to get SA membership in the past, perhaps 8 months ago.

Using the term OneVanilla when it is now known as SecureSpend causes confusion.

Perhaps we should use OneVanilla / SecureSpend so people know that either would work.

[Ernest Ll]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...0-6d0f32911c96

Got her to snap. AFter some general convo, says "Apple pay me $69".

Why?

Because I'm cute and you want me to be your SB.

Tell her I don't do that.

Next day, same convo.

[Shampoo55]

So. Anyone want to speculate on alternatives yet. Looking at you sugardaddy.com LOL. And WTF is he doing with WYP then -ffs its the nature of the site.

Oh no! Nothing wrong with WYP as there are EXPLICIT and clear warnings that "Sex Should Not Be Expected On A Date!" WYP is VERY clear with that! WYP is paying $ to a girl to come eat & drink food you pay for at an expensive restaurant and she is free to (and expects to) leave no-strings attached once her belly is full. If one is expecting the girl will sleep with you after the meal, they are going to find out there is a difference of opinion or intention between the parties in most cases.

After all, "traditional" escorting: Going out to dinner, going to the theater, going to a function with eye-candy on your arm is NOT illegal. In fact, most gray-haired judges think this is what is going on, on most escort websites, since sex for money is illegal.

I was on WYP ONCE! Never got a single date out of it as girls faked and flaked. Maybe Wade's conscience will change and he'll close the WYP site down? (or his lawyers advise him to shutter it?

DO NOT think of Secret Benefits as an alternative IF it comes to that. SB uses a "credits" system where you spend your credits to initiate contact. Problem is that there is no governance to prevent fake or BOT profiles and couple that with the flakiness of POTs as seen on SA, hit rates are much lower and "spend" per date much higher!

Other sites have a specific challenge. They don't have the VOLUME to make them viable. SA has 10 women for every guy! Not sure how other sites will be able to recruit and attract women as that is the key. Just like a bar that wants to be popular. If the girls are there the guys will show up!

[Tyrex2]

LOL. It's almost unwatchable. Wonder what will actually change. No one is paying that shit for a straight dating site.

So. Anyone want to speculate on alternatives yet. Looking at you sugardaddy.com LOL. And WTF is he doing with WYP then -ffs its the nature of the site.

[FarFarAway]

Yes, I've always used OneVanilla card without any issue.

However, I can't find OneVanilla card anywhere near me at all. Checked multiple CVS / Walmart etc.

What I found is a card that looks very much like OneVanilla but it is called SecureSpend.

Upon further research it seems that OneVanilla and SecureSpend are same company with different websites - https://securespend.com/ and https://onevanilla.com/.

How so? Look at 'Where to Buy" at both sites and they have the same address. PO Box 826, Fortson, GA 31808.

I have posted specifically about this earlier. Perhaps the mods can move this to the archive, where you guys can ignore it. Yes, it appears that OneVanilla is undergoing rebranding in some markets. I have indeed seen the SecureSpend cards, they have the same packaging as OneVanille, in that the plastic window is vertical rather than horizontal. I have personally used SecureSpend to get SA membership in the past, perhaps 8 months ago.

[RegularJoe1985]

Per this video:

https://youtu.be/sx3Dg_igqVg

Looks like founder Brandon Wade is getting married and intends to totally de-emphasize the "sugar dating" part of the website! Now it is "suppose to be" just a 'dating website!

Wonder if the heat is getting turned up on the site as a venue for prostitution and now that he's getting married, wants to further insulate himself from FOSTA-SESTA type liabilities? Any one think things will change on the site? More stringent BOT reads of emails and any mention of sugar or anything that the BOT thinks is compensation will get you booted?

But clearly Wade is an idiot! He violated one of the primary "rules" - NEVER fall in lover with a Hooker!

No pre-nup? LOL! Reports are that he's worth $35 -$50 Million. That's some pretty expensive sex! Talk about over paying!..

Well since both parties are signing Forever marriage with no divorce, I guess they'll both be tolerating each other after some time, LOL.

SA not being what it used to was always on the cards, with jerks like Matt Gaetz bringing Grand Jury in the mix.

Hope people wait to see what's happening before signing up even with 25% off special, LOL.

[LolBoat]

Per this video:

https://youtu.be/sx3Dg_igqVg

Looks like founder Brandon Wade is getting married and intends to totally de-emphasize the "sugar dating" part of the website! Now it is "suppose to be" just a 'dating website!

Wonder if the heat is getting turned up on the site as a venue for prostitution and now that he's getting married, wants to further insulate himself from FOSTA-SESTA type liabilities? Any one think things will change on the site? More stringent BOT reads of emails and any mention of sugar or anything that the BOT thinks is compensation will get you booted?

But clearly Wade is an idiot! He violated one of the primary "rules" - NEVER fall in lover with a Hooker!

No pre-nup? LOL! Reports are that he's worth $35 -$50 Million. That's some pretty expensive sex! Talk about over paying!

But WAIT! Did a search and looks like he got married in 2012, so 10-yrs later he's doing it again?

Came here to post this as well. I believe SA is on the verge of being seized by the feds and hes spending alot of coin on lawyer fees to keep them at bay.

[RogerOver]

Per this video:

https://youtu.be/sx3Dg_igqVg

Looks like founder Brandon Wade is getting married and intends to totally de-emphasize the "sugar dating" part of the website! Now it is "suppose to be" just a 'dating website!

Wonder if the heat is getting turned up on the site as a venue for prostitution and now that he's getting married, wants to further insulate himself from FOSTA-SESTA type liabilities? Any one think things will change on the site? More stringent BOT reads of emails and any mention of sugar or anything that the BOT thinks is compensation will get you booted?

But clearly Wade is an idiot! He violated one of the primary "rules" - NEVER fall in lover with a Hooker!

No pre-nup? LOL! Reports are that he's worth $35 -$50 Million. That's some pretty expensive sex! Talk about over paying!

But WAIT! Did a search and looks like he got married in 2012, so 10-yrs later he's doing it again?

LOL. It's almost unwatchable. Wonder what will actually change. No one is paying that shit for a straight dating site.

[Shampoo55]

Per this video:

https://youtu.be/sx3Dg_igqVg

Looks like founder Brandon Wade is getting married and intends to totally de-emphasize the "sugar dating" part of the website! Now it is "suppose to be" just a 'dating website!

Wonder if the heat is getting turned up on the site as a venue for prostitution and now that he's getting married, wants to further insulate himself from FOSTA-SESTA type liabilities? Any one think things will change on the site? More stringent BOT reads of emails and any mention of sugar or anything that the BOT thinks is compensation will get you booted?

But clearly Wade is an idiot! He violated one of the primary "rules" - NEVER fall in lover with a Hooker!

No pre-nup? LOL! Reports are that he's worth $35 -$50 Million. That's some pretty expensive sex! Talk about over paying!

But WAIT! Did a search and looks like he got married in 2012, so 10-yrs later he's doing it again?