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  1. #20835
    You are correct, the world has changed. It used to be that getting BJ or FS at an NOVA AMP was like finding the holy grail, now it's available everywhere with minimal effort. It's only a matter of the capacity and willingness to spend the money.

    So the intel matters less in terms of who does what. The disparity seems to be in age not service. There seems to be an excess of really old providers and fewer younger, hotter providers. I would argue that is the more valuable knowledge now.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    I've been a long time lurker, and a senior member under many names. I have benefited from those who have been generous in lending information and have also been a benefactor to many. It's a painfully simple process of giving and receiving. We call each other brothers and we share our knowledge to grow the collective. I have met many strangers who have entertained me with great stories, both of failure and success and could easily call them my friends, but lately it seems that what once was a tree of life has become festered with a covert covetousness. Sure some flowers still bloom on this tree here and there but I notice a larger number of posts that aren't providing information but using the platform to gloat. Parasites on this board are unavoidable; there will always be people who take and never give but that's simply collateral damage offset by the net gains of having a free website where we can access information without barriers. But what leaves me unsettled is that even seniors; people I have looked to as brothers have given me the cold shoulder even when confronted thru PM. If we don't nourish the tree it will die and I don't want to see this platform become a dick measuring contest.

    I don't mind withholding info if there's a cause for it; maybe preventing a monger rush or if the provider explicitly expresses to keep her services a secret. But I'm here to entertain, not show off; so anything is fair game via PM and I don't mind telling trusted seniors about my experiences or imparting a little knowledge. But mind you, I also provide in the hopes that other mongers will follow my lead and share as well. Some get the message and it's always a pleasure to see, but a shocking number of members seem to have become blinded and it worries me.

    Anyway rant over:

    I spent a short visit going over to 7406 Little River Trnpike to see Lucy, I guess she can be described on this board as another "AMP grannie" but she keeps herself pretty well maintained for her age. Didn't really come for the massage so we skipped it and spent the 30 min doing other things. CFS for a $. 4 total isn't terrible and I enjoyed myself with her company. She spent 20 years in Peru so she's a Chinese lady who speaks fluent Spanish, a customer called mid session and she did her entire conversation in Spanish which for some reason turned me on, something about a submissive soft spoken Chinese lady speaking fluent high pitched Spanish isn't something you see everyday while banging her missionary so that was enjoyable to see.

    Anyway I did have another adventure with a much younger gal at another AMP but frankly I don't much feel like talking about it right now. I will eventually but I'm rather salty for a sailor right now given the current state of this ocean but trusted seniors can inquire.

    Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.

  2. #20834

    Oasis in Annandale

    I stopped by Oasis in Annandale this week. They have a. 6 cover charge. I did have a really good strong massage. However no extras to be found. They did have a glass door and a see through curtain over the glass. So for a good massage but no extras. As usual YMMV.

  3. #20833

    Where should I go?

    I was in town last month and went to AT, unfortunately she was busy and asked that I come back in 2 hrs. That wasn't going to work so I moved on. Ended up at Ying or Eastern thinking it was a different place. The lady was probably in her 50's, not bad looking. Decent massage with a HE. She allowed roaming and licking of her nipples. For 60/40, it was worth it.

    Well, I'll be back in DC tomorrow afternoon and was going to try AT again, but it appears there has been a changing of the guards there. Any recommendations on a place in NOVA or in the DC area that offers a good massage and more? I would love the full experience w / a shower. Thanks in advance!

  4. #20832

    Eleven SPA (Herndon)

    Terribly disappointed that Linda has washed away and no longer at Eleven. Damn she was so good, sensual and like the sexy girl next door. I would love to attempt to learn where she is now location. She will rake in so much business wherever she is at. So I decided to see BLUE today, which was fun, but nothing like Linda, total damage was $1. 60 but menu was limited today, but still left happy. She told me its one girl that replaced Linda and her name is Kay. If anyone sees her definitely report back. Happy Mongering Gents.

  5. #20831

    There's been a paradigm shift on this board

    I've been a long time lurker, and a senior member under many names. I have benefited from those who have been generous in lending information and have also been a benefactor to many. It's a painfully simple process of giving and receiving. We call each other brothers and we share our knowledge to grow the collective. I have met many strangers who have entertained me with great stories, both of failure and success and could easily call them my friends, but lately it seems that what once was a tree of life has become festered with a covert covetousness. Sure some flowers still bloom on this tree here and there but I notice a larger number of posts that aren't providing information but using the platform to gloat. Parasites on this board are unavoidable; there will always be people who take and never give but that's simply collateral damage offset by the net gains of having a free website where we can access information without barriers. But what leaves me unsettled is that even seniors; people I have looked to as brothers have given me the cold shoulder even when confronted thru PM. If we don't nourish the tree it will die and I don't want to see this platform become a dick measuring contest.

    I don't mind withholding info if there's a cause for it; maybe preventing a monger rush or if the provider explicitly expresses to keep her services a secret. But I'm here to entertain, not show off; so anything is fair game via PM and I don't mind telling trusted seniors about my experiences or imparting a little knowledge. But mind you, I also provide in the hopes that other mongers will follow my lead and share as well. Some get the message and it's always a pleasure to see, but a shocking number of members seem to have become blinded and it worries me.

    Anyway rant over:

    I spent a short visit going over to 7406 Little River Trnpike to see Lucy, I guess she can be described on this board as another "AMP grannie" but she keeps herself pretty well maintained for her age. Didn't really come for the massage so we skipped it and spent the 30 min doing other things. CFS for a $. 4 total isn't terrible and I enjoyed myself with her company. She spent 20 years in Peru so she's a Chinese lady who speaks fluent Spanish, a customer called mid session and she did her entire conversation in Spanish which for some reason turned me on, something about a submissive soft spoken Chinese lady speaking fluent high pitched Spanish isn't something you see everyday while banging her missionary so that was enjoyable to see.

    Anyway I did have another adventure with a much younger gal at another AMP but frankly I don't much feel like talking about it right now. I will eventually but I'm rather salty for a sailor right now given the current state of this ocean but trusted seniors can inquire.

    Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.

  6. #20830

    Interesting Thread Roller Coaster? Restaurant Menu? Cook your own Food? The Hunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Start2  [View Original Post]
    If you're looking for Slam Blam Thank You Mama then escorts are a better way to go.

    Massage Parlor's are more about the thrill of the hunt, you're getting a excellent massage and then a menu.

    Or to put it another way Escorts are like driving to work, it a pretty vanilla experience.

    Massage Parlor's are like a roller coaster ups and downs, can't wait to do it again.
    This thread gave me a few laughs. Like many of us, I started out happy with simple rub and tug dreams. For me, that level of service is best at an AMP with a good table shower and well worth a 80 plus 40 fee. Getting more at an AMP in NOVA is a crap shoot. Like many of you have said here, I will a little more for small extras like roaming and nursing. However, I will not up the ante to FS escort prices at an AMP without FS. In PG county, the AMPs run more like escort shops with a menu. I have been happier with known escort providers because I go with confidence and don't need to hunt or negotiate. If escorts are like vanilla, I have found some very good top of the line creamy vanilla bean flavors from in my rotation. (Some good chocolate as well) . The NOVA AMPs have raised their price requests and some have negotiation approaches that results in a loss of desire for me. I did have a very nice experience at Kara early this year that provided a wonderful BBBJ CIM with no negotiation. I tipped well. However, the next time I showed up that provider was gone. The provider I saw wanted platinum (not just gold) for anything above a NOVA finish. I walked out. Does this mean I failed in the hunt? Tomorrow is another day and there is more wild game out their. Good hunting to us all!

  7. #20829

    Lara and someone extra

    While I fully endorse RL21's review, there's two new developments.

    One is that Lara now has dark hair and the other is named Trixie.

    I called and asked for the four hands treatment, and following the light screening found myself at Lara's door. And there was not only Lara in her lacy robe and little else, but a more slender woman of similar complexion, with just the right kind of curves on display in a short wrap. In what seemed like a moment I was naked face-down and being worked on by two warm, near-naked women. Lara and Trixie work well together and the touches were nicely coordinated, working out the kinks (speaking of which, toys are an option) and the stiff spots.

    On to the flip, and it was apparent that a stiff spot remained, but the two ladies worked diligently on it and the surrounding regions and as a bonus Trixie presented her upper assets to my face. Suffice it to say that the stiffness was fully relieved.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubLover21  [View Original Post]
    I saw Lara's ad on AS.

    https://adultsearch.com/washington-d...y-rubs/2016147

    A few texts and light screening followed. Her location is indeed discreet, with an entrance on a lightly trafficked side road, and there is public parking under her building.

    I made my way to her door, behind which was a tall, copper-skinned beauty in lingerie with a welcoming smile and laughing eyes, a cascade of blonde curls, and a liquid, teasing voice with a touch of French from West Africa. I took in a clean, scented, well appointed studio with a massage table (no bed) as Lara directed me to get comfortable in the bathroom.

    I laid face down, uncovered, and Lara thoughtfully placed bolsters under my feet. She proceeded to find and unwind knots that I had not known were there. The massage was firm but never at the wincing level that some therapists deliver, and was clearly the result of formal training as well as a natural touch. Like any good therapist she used forearms, palms and heels of hands as well as fingers. An electric massager focused energy on tough spots, and hot stones warmed my back as she worked my legs and thighs. And all the time was the warmth radiating from her body..

  8. #20828

    Anyone Pull the trigger on her

    Reached out to her a couple of times yesterday but no reply. Look interesting to say the least and would love to check her out. Has anyone seen her yet?

    https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...448326886.html

  9. #20827

    Increasing prices for service, and an 8303 redux

    Lately I've noticed that prices at some Chinese AMPs have increased from 60/ hr to 70/ hr, notably Massage Therapy on Lee Hwy and Massage Pro. Despite a relatively modest price increase, I feel it's enough of an increase that no longer makes them competitive with the prices at Korean AMPs.

    I saw that 8303 had a change in its name and presumed it's under new mgt so I decided to revisit and see if things improved since my last visit. The fees here, however, have not increased. In fact they have a punch card where your sixth visit is free. I met Lisa, a cute 30 year old C-gal with B cups wearing a very short dress that showed some nice curves. I paid. 6 for the hour. I asked for a back walk and would guess that she's less than 90 pounds. Unfortunately the back walk lasted at most 3 minutes because the table in my room is not oriented in the same direction as the support pole on the ceiling. Nonetheless she did give a good effort until she gave up. On the flip she offered the standard NOVA via a jacking hand gesture which I was fine with at first but then thought I'd see what else was being offered. She didn't have a cover and said FS was out but at least FS was a possibility. I offered. 8 for BJ. She asked for 1. 2 and I countered 1, which she agreed. When she told me that she didn't have a cover, I assumed it was BBBJ. To my dismay she returned with plastic wrap for. Ahem - a PWBJ?. That was a first for me but I went with it. Partway through I asked her to strip. The dress came off and the undergarments stayed on. She allowed petting the kitty over the panties and pulled down the bra to offer ample nursing. She was extremely verbal with the fake moaning and was ok with me pushing her head deeper down on junior. A few times she asked to remove the wrap and proceed with HJ and I told her to keep sucking which she did. After I blew my load, she kept pumping and made sure I was drained. Overall the massage was good but I do prefer harder. I might return just to see her; however, she did mention that she'll return to NY in a month or two.

  10. #20826

    Where to look

    Quote Originally Posted by Samizza  [View Original Post]
    What are mongers using nowadays? Bedpage is getting skinny in terms of good providers, Eros is like having another mortgage. What other websites have quality swag with appropriate prices?
    One criteria for knowing if someone is not what they seem, is for the site to include a review. Of course not all the reviews are reliable.

    Listcrawler has a lot of junk and has become dominated by advertisements by Hispanic providers (great if that is what you are looking for). However, if you look at the Review Section, you can find providers that have been reviewed. If you don't want to join, you can still look at the comments provided by reviewers.

    Theeroticreview has reviews without ads from the providers, although you can find a provider ad through links shown with the reviews. Like Listcrawler if you don't want to join, you can look at the comments provided by reviewers. These give some insight.

    P.S. There is little on these websites that is any way appropriate. Thank goodness!

  11. #20825

    No luck with Cherry

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. There's no wrong answer since this is merely an argument with so many variables and we are working within the realms of speculation but I think undeniably this is the best answer to both points mentioned here.

    When you're consistently paying 100-140 for FS you typically develop the discipline to not give in to outrageous demand.

    The problem is, no matter how much you preach about tip, or costs, or give advice. This board is but a small fraction of mongers who use AMPs. We will not be able to control the market from this platform alone because there's so many AMP goers who aren't even using this forum and many more who are unfamiliar with the rules of the game so to speak.

    Ladies might be able to sucker a newbie who hadn't dipped his toes into the pool yet or maybe get an extra couple of Jackson's from a pent up husband who doesn't partake in the massage that often and thus has a few more bucks to toss. Or maybe the Diamond store guy had a big sale and needs to generously offer his own pearl necklace to the lady and the AMP, and the money spent is merely pocket change in comparison.

    But just because you can't change the rules doesn't mean you have to play by them. Remain vigilant. Don't give in to demand. Continue to lend intel on your experiences, both good and bad. That's the path to victory.
    Tried twice, unfortunately it turns out she's just not into AA at all. Wish she just mentioned that in the ad. Never experienced this with a massage chic before. Obviously it's common amongst pure escorts.

  12. #20824

    Hackers got them

    Quote Originally Posted by Barkeater  [View Original Post]
    There are ads up in Baltimore, and presumably everywhere else. Must be an admin error. It will likely be back up soon, unless its a legal issue.
    They said on their site: Unfortunately our site is under attack by relentless & sophisticated hackers. We are trying to resolve the issue, and we sincerely apologize for the issue.

    No listings found.

  13. #20823

    RR is down only in DC

    There are ads up in Baltimore, and presumably everywhere else. Must be an admin error. It will likely be back up soon, unless its a legal issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcAn  [View Original Post]
    If the feds shut Rub Ratings down, there would be a federal seizure notice posted at the website. I don't see such a notice, just that there are no ads available. Hopefully they're back up and running soon.

  14. #20822

    No seizure notice

    Quote Originally Posted by InSearch69  [View Original Post]
    Well, looks like the feds are shutting that down now.
    If the feds shut Rub Ratings down, there would be a federal seizure notice posted at the website. I don't see such a notice, just that there are no ads available. Hopefully they're back up and running soon.

  15. #20821

    Probably just a tech issue like they said

    Quote Originally Posted by InSearch69  [View Original Post]
    Well, looks like the feds are shutting that down now.
    If it were federal seizure the home page wouldn't work either.

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