NoVA SugarBabies

[TomFordModel]

She's a stripper, I'm guessing a lot of them do coke. Same with models, etc. Anybody that parties a lot and is a hot female will get offered coke, molly, and xtc on a regular basis. I used to club a lot in Dupont and dudes would be .

This one is hot or my type.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-88e20d7ffcda

Nice, thin, and no smell. She said she was a stripper, went to gwu. Blah blah. Didn't really care. Saw her last year for a bit. Them I went back to talked to her she was in fucking rehab in Florida now she's in NYC.

She probably still looks good because if her age. If she's still on whatever shit. She will decline fast do by 25 she would look haggard.

I don't know how many above 25 yr old catfished me with pics of when they were at their prime.

[Mcsylv]

She has a nice body but her face looks like she likes candy. Kinda strung out. Total turn off from that perspective.

Dmv is shit. Going to take a break from this shit. All the beasts that have been posted on here I can get off of tinder.

She's a stripper, I'm guessing a lot of them do coke. Same with models, etc. Anybody that parties a lot and is a hot female will get offered coke, molly, and xtc on a regular basis. I used to club a lot in Dupont and dudes would be walking around VIP asking if I wanted to buy coke, and girls would be walking around asking if I had any. The dudes I partied with liked girls who would get wasted and high, rather than the in-control and all-in-moderation types. If she's willing to get drunk, she's probably more likely to be dtf.

And for some of those guys, if she's drunk or high, it's easier to take advantage of her even if she's not dtf.

Point is, if doing coke is a turnoff, a lot of your girls probably have done it a couple times, or they still occasionally do it when they go clubbing LOL. Of course, if you're saying she's a coke addict and looks like she is sucking dick behind the dumpster for a line, I didn't get that feeling when I met her. Seemed like a regular girl, wasn't desperate for money or seemed strung out. Didn't even ask me for a gift after our M&G, just parted ways.

I've found ppm allowance generally gets tied to how hot the girl is rather than skin color or ethnicity.

I generally don't message black SBs but those that I have are almost always in the same range as white Latina or Asian SBs. More of a supply and demand issue than anything. Right now fed liquidity has supported current asking prices of ladies who are still in the bowl and federal student loan policies have made it so fewer SBs need to find sugar to pay back their loans. Lots of guys with new money are now playing in the sugar bowl with their Bitcoin profits and fewer SBs who have dropped out.

When interest rates go up in March a lot of guys are going to go broke and will need to drop their SBs, putting them back into rotation. When May rolls around and other new potential SBs need to pay back their loans, a lot of 20 something college grads are going to have to figure out if they want to work fast food or find a SD. I suspect by the end of May, we'll see an imbalance that favors SDs, who still have funds to play.

And yeah. Way to many variables to make any generalizations. Let's celebrate each other's wins and be glad we all have different tastes, because otherwise, we'd all go broke chasing the same ladies.

Yes of course there's various factors that go into pricing. Location, hotness of the girl, hotness of the guy, financial situation the girl is in, how far she lives from the guy, etc. I'm not saying that race is the only factor, or even the primary factor into price. I'm saying its one of the factors, and generally the pecking order goes, from most to least desirable: white, Asian, Latina, black. This is reflected in data Tinder, OkCupid, and other dating sites put out on people's racial preferences in their searches and matches. You can google it and see the reports. I believe the analysts determined that black girls were least desirable because they were perceived as the loud, obnoxious, ratchet type. Cardi B, if you will. Asians were 2nd behind the obvious white girls on top because Asian girls were fetishized as submissive sluts who would do all the dirty things her man desires. Reinforced by decades of pop culture.

BTW for reference, male desirability was generally found to be: white, black, Latino, Asian. Black men were 2nd due to the BBC stereotype and women wanting to fuck a black stud at least once just to try it, even if they didn't continue. Asian men were stereotyped as meek, mild-mannered, the comedic sidekick in movies and never the main star. In the movie Romeo Must Die starring Jet Li, Jet was supposed to make out with Aaliyah in the end like in any typical action movie where the hero gets the girl. The directors cut that scene because they thought it was be too odd and jarring with the audience's perception of how an asian man is supposed to be. Never mind that Jet Li is kicking everybody's ass in the whole movie, yellow dicks don't get pussy in the mainstream American mind.

[ProCatHunter]

I've found ppm allowance generally gets tied to how hot the girl is rather than skin color or ethnicity.

I generally don't message black SBs but those that I have are almost always in the same range as white Latina or Asian SBs. More of a supply and demand issue than anything. Right now fed liquidity has supported current asking prices of ladies who are still in the bowl and federal student loan policies have made it so fewer SBs need to find sugar to pay back their loans. Lots of guys with new money are now playing in the sugar bowl with their Bitcoin profits and fewer SBs who have dropped out.

When interest rates go up in March a lot of guys are going to go broke and will need to drop their SBs, putting them back into rotation. When May rolls around and other new potential SBs need to pay back their loans, a lot of 20 something college grads are going to have to figure out if they want to work fast food or find a SD. I suspect by the end of May, we'll see an imbalance that favors SDs, who still have funds to play.

And yeah. Way to many variables to make any generalizations. Let's celebrate each other's wins and be glad we all have different tastes, because otherwise, we'd all go broke chasing the same ladies.

I don't think it's that obvious. I don't give a shit how hot the next dude is and neither should you. And just because I'm Black doesn't mean that's what I mainly go after and score all the time. Most of the girls I've scored with off SA have been white, latina and Asian in that order. Just normal sized ones (hwp from 130-150) and not the scarecrows. No diss to anyone, cause you like what you like, just saying. Also the youngest I tend to go is mid-20's and up cause they tend to be looser with the rules. But we all can't have the same things in this particular arena so I congratulate all, but begrudge no one what they are pulling as long as I get what I like.

Also, lower ppm is not guaranteed for non-white girls or bigger girls. There's a lot of boldness in these streets and simps willing to pay the price.

[TomFordModel]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-0ff843802a0e

Talked about this girl a while ago, long story short seemed like a scammer, even though we did an unpaid M&G. Has anyone successfully banged her? Feel free to PM if you don't want to post.

Sucks that this girl is such a ***** but I just block her and forget her because she's a 9 while everyone else in the DMV is a 7 at best.

She has a nice body but her face looks like she likes candy. Kinda strung out. Total turn off from that perspective.

Dmv is shit. Going to take a break from this shit. All the beasts that have been posted on here I can get off of tinder.

[Mcsylv]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-0ff843802a0e

Talked about this girl a while ago, long story short seemed like a scammer, even though we did an unpaid M&G. Has anyone successfully banged her? Feel free to PM if you don't want to post.

Sucks that this girl is such a ***** but I just block her and forget her because she's a 9 while everyone else in the DMV is a 7 at best.

[HighwayGuy]

I chatted with Odessa but never pulled the plug with her. Curious to see if anyone else has met her. If so DM me.

Chatted with her but never progressed past her ask for paid M&Gs (plural) to check vibe before committing to move forward. I would never do $700 PPM anyway, as another poster suggested is her ask for full date, so perhaps it's moot.

[Itfcd]

My research on OF shows that she also does girl-girl, with a Crystal City Restaurant dancer. Perhaps she does F-F-M. I'll be that she does.

https://onlyfans.com/margueritebby

DM.

LOL, your research. That I did 2+ months ago, which is what McSylv is referring to, and even I wasn't the first to know it, because others PMed me after the fact to confirm that they'd known for a while longer than that. OK.

[BadHabits21]

Gymrat1996.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...f-c8cef08667d1

This one is pretty quick to try and get down to business. Wants an allowance of $4 K per month.

I might have snorted energy drink through my nostrils upon reading that.

BillieJaneL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...c-82be02079f9d

Feels semi-pro. Says she's only in town through this weekend. Wants $500 per meet.

[Ernest Ll]

I think don't be creepy is the biggest issue. Don't be the guy that's using SA as a replacement for Backpage. Don't treat them like a ho (even they are), they don't want to feel like it. Make it an adventure for them!

Except the same guys who message the most unbelievable things are the ones that follow up rejection calling her every name in the book.

The creeps don't know they are creepy. But thanks to them, its easy to stand out.

[Kpop1]

I haven't met with any of these either because they were too expensive or I lost interest. If anyone has any other info feel free to add.

Athenaaaa.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-2a64e24a8790

Wanted 500 to meet for dinner and go from there. Fuck that.

FitFemale.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-8dff2739b331

This one only wanted monthly 1500-2 k+.

Sexyllexxii.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...f-5292183d03de

This one has been discussed before. She used to be underage now I think she is finally 18 but don't quote me. Quoted me 700-1 k.

Babygirl9399.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...5-40dd16ac359e

This one has been discussed before. DTF and open menu. I think she can be had for a low amount like 200.

Odessa.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...3-827e55a24191

Quoted me 700+. DTF.

Violet19 D.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...6-be00c426b140

Cute little latina with pretty big boobs. DTF. Wants 600.

Lil6.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-847d07d20e63

Another little latina. DTF. Wants 400.

I chatted with Odessa but never pulled the plug with her. Curious to see if anyone else has met her. If so DM me.

[BobDingle10]

I thought it was common knowledge that going after non-whites and non-thin girls are easier than going after the former. Lower PPM, looser rules, more chances for freebies, etc. I don't think anyone here is asking about how to score with thicker brown and black girls.

People are seeing TomFord's girl pics, which are mostly thin, young white girls with some Asians, and wondering how he's getting those types to come down from NYC with no PPM expectations, for 3 days BBFSCIP.

My conclusion is that TF is hot. Don't try to replicate his methods of conversation with his type of girls (white and thin) unless you also are the same caliber looks-wise, or it's not going to work and will be a waste of your time. If you want an example of what he looks like, he posted a celeb look-alike a couple posts back.

I don't think it's that obvious. I don't give a shit how hot the next dude is and neither should you. And just because I'm Black doesn't mean that's what I mainly go after and score all the time. Most of the girls I've scored with off SA have been white, latina and Asian in that order. Just normal sized ones (hwp from 130-150) and not the scarecrows. No diss to anyone, cause you like what you like, just saying. Also the youngest I tend to go is mid-20's and up cause they tend to be looser with the rules. But we all can't have the same things in this particular arena so I congratulate all, but begrudge no one what they are pulling as long as I get what I like.

Also, lower ppm is not guaranteed for non-white girls or bigger girls. There's a lot of boldness in these streets and simps willing to pay the price.

[JkNova9]

Curious if anyone has and is open to trading nude pics and vids of girls they've met though this (or otherwise). I've got over 50 from the DC area and Virginia schools. Inbox me if interested! Figure I might as well share these rather than sitting on them!

[Mcsylv]

No doubt- the first rule of adulthood: life isn't fair.

I'm a stockier dude (probably a fat ass to some) but mostly proportionate. I don't jiggle when I walk but I don't cut a figure like Brad Pitt or Clooney either. Nevertheless, done pretty damn well on SA.

Sure I've gotten a lot of non-responses, but who hasn't? I don't score well with the 120 lb white chicks or most Asian chicks but that's not my market demographic either. Even so, the biggest factors are money and game. Period.

Like another poster here posted, about 10% of the chicks I've had from SA have fucked me for free. Another 10% told me I did t have to pay every time or gave me frequent discounts. There are a few girls that if I added up the freebies and discounts have me ending up breaking even if not ahead.

The main thing is having social skills and not being a creep. And like the guy above me said, don't treat goes like hoes. Using BP and CL tactics will have you spending more than you need too.

The only thing that have really kept me from hitting the so-called 10's on the site is the ppm ask. But I've been on the site since 2016 and nailed more than a few 10's before things got crazy (again, accounting for the different tastes here among guys which seems to tilt toward white and super slim women.) another thing to account for is race as I've had a few women tell me that my race (Black) was not something they were cool with. On the other hand it's worked in my favor too as I've been the first dark cock for a few chicks too and fulfilled a fantasy of theirs.

Overall, yeah if I could be 30 lbs lighter I'm sure it would make somewhat of a difference, but not a super huge one except amongst the waifs and super discriminating. But not all is lost for us stocky dudes. Again: game and money trump everything. Don't be a creep, but into her "I'm just a girl who needs help / adventure" fantasy and follow through and you'll do well enough.

I tend to do ongoing situations and I have chicks from a few years ago still willing to jump on my junk for a reasonable ask today.

I thought it was common knowledge that going after non-whites and non-thin girls are easier than going after the former. Lower PPM, looser rules, more chances for freebies, etc. I don't think anyone here is asking about how to score with thicker brown and black girls.

People are seeing TomFord's girl pics, which are mostly thin, young white girls with some Asians, and wondering how he's getting those types to come down from NYC with no PPM expectations, for 3 days BBFSCIP.

My conclusion is that TF is hot. Don't try to replicate his methods of conversation with his type of girls (white and thin) unless you also are the same caliber looks-wise, or it's not going to work and will be a waste of your time. If you want an example of what he looks like, he posted a celeb look-alike a couple posts back.

[Mcsylv]

Adcfellow, I got your DM and wanted to respond but your inbox is full.

[BobDingle10]

Gents. Lots of talk about good looks, but my experience has been that it's more important to be Height Weight Proportionate. Women's taste in the appearance of men I've found varies significantly. Obviously if you look like Brad Pitt, than that's one thing and if you have a lazy eye and cleft palette it's entirely another.

For newer guys, who DGAF, and want profiles of girls messaging you about how handsome you are, all you have to do is change your profile settings to list as one of the higher income categories. Ladies use that search filter like we use body size and age.

When I started out, I played with different profile settings. I'm relatively certain that if you are HWP in your pics, put yourself down as single, and identify in one of the upper income bands, you'll start receiving lots of messages from SB profiles all around the country and world telling you how sexy you look and how they want to jump your bones. You'll also have to weed out a lot more scammers and bot accounts. And of course if you can't follow through with the profile settings (ie give a $1 k p / meet allowance and have a SO that only lets you out of the house during odd hours) you'll also find that not being accurate on your profile ends up wasting more of your time than anything.

I've also heard lots of stories from SBs about dudes who do this, promise the world, and then ghost w / o the allowance after banging the girl. Aside from the fact that it's a terrible thing to do and a shitty way to be; try not to be that guy for your own personal self interest. Especially since some of these girls are batshit crazy and might do stuff to make you regret the decision.

Oh. And before anyone reads into this post being some sort of passive aggressive way of calling out tomfordmodel, it's not. I've had plenty of encounters where I've gotten SB pussy for free (never with a gal from NYC tho. That's a tough nut to crack). The few times I've exchanged DMs with the guy, I've found his information to be credible, in addition to the info he's posted.

My one complaint is that he seems to have started a trend of posting pics rather than links to profiles. Let's stop with that fellahs. Links to profiles are so much easier to work with.

No doubt- the first rule of adulthood: life isn't fair.

I'm a stockier dude (probably a fat ass to some) but mostly proportionate. I don't jiggle when I walk but I don't cut a figure like Brad Pitt or Clooney either. Nevertheless, done pretty damn well on SA.

Sure I've gotten a lot of non-responses, but who hasn't? I don't score well with the 120 lb white chicks or most Asian chicks but that's not my market demographic either. Even so, the biggest factors are money and game. Period.

Like another poster here posted, about 10% of the chicks I've had from SA have fucked me for free. Another 10% told me I did t have to pay every time or gave me frequent discounts. There are a few girls that if I added up the freebies and discounts have me ending up breaking even if not ahead.

The main thing is having social skills and not being a creep. And like the guy above me said, don't treat goes like hoes. Using BP and CL tactics will have you spending more than you need too.

The only thing that have really kept me from hitting the so-called 10's on the site is the ppm ask. But I've been on the site since 2016 and nailed more than a few 10's before things got crazy (again, accounting for the different tastes here among guys which seems to tilt toward white and super slim women.) another thing to account for is race as I've had a few women tell me that my race (Black) was not something they were cool with. On the other hand it's worked in my favor too as I've been the first dark cock for a few chicks too and fulfilled a fantasy of theirs.

Overall, yeah if I could be 30 lbs lighter I'm sure it would make somewhat of a difference, but not a super huge one except amongst the waifs and super discriminating. But not all is lost for us stocky dudes. Again: game and money trump everything. Don't be a creep, but into her "I'm just a girl who needs help / adventure" fantasy and follow through and you'll do well enough.

I tend to do ongoing situations and I have chicks from a few years ago still willing to jump on my junk for a reasonable ask today.