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  1. #26292
    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure what you have against out of towners to be so biased against their inclusion to be screened. Whether a potential client is worthwhile to screen or not will fall onto each booker / agencies' requirements and their particular situation. There's no telling where or when a bad apple will appear but all else being equal, the likelihood of one being an out of towner or a local is the same. Being a local or out of towner does not inherently make you a bad apple. Furthermore, there's theoretically a higher chance of a bad apple appearing in the local client pool than out of towners due the sheer numbers involved. Screening isn't perfect and not up to the task of evaluating how a monger will act so there will be a few who fall through the cracks.

    Everyone will have different opinions but my take on helping newcomers is simple. I'll help anyone who wants to genuinely enter the kgirl scene by pointing where to find contact information and what they can expect and need to provide for screening. Whether they are local or not matters not to me. It'll be up to what references they already have, what they are willing to disclose, and the bookers evaluation of them to see if they get access or not. My helping them does not affect whether or not they will get cleared, it only eliminates a step in the process that they can do on their own by browsing here or on other forums. In addition, bookers worth their salt knows that they need to keep increasing their client pool to combat losses from attrition (mongers leaving the kgirl scene and competition / favoring other agencies) to keep their girls booked as much as possible.

    I'm not sure how price increases fits into all of this in from your perspective. But price increases has been a long time coming given how flat rates have been for years. Take a moment to ponder that they increased prices during a pandemic and economic downturn. This flies in the face of any sane business model. We can only speculate on why but I think increased overhead costs started to eat at their margins or simple greed works too. Regardless, it would be naive to think it would remain the same.
    Sorry bud but good luck in getting into the stables we partake in!

  2. #26291

    Trying to wrap my head around the name changes

    When I posted about the "new" girls at M, I was curious about Sica. It seems Bookergray has her as Sicca (noticed the extra C, not sure if it's on purpose or a typo). Someone mentioned she went by Jessica and used fake pictures. It seems no one has tried her yet and she's on the cheaper end price point which in my experience tends to be an older one and they know this and charge accordingly. I hope I got it right with the names and possibly the right girl, I hate this annoying nonsense to reinvent themselves as "new" girls.

    M's Sica.

    https://myalbum.com/album/4j4zspr3tJSf

    Sicca at Bookergray.

    https://bookergray.com/bbs/board.php..._mw&wr_id=2639 (Fake pictures indicated by someone esle).

    CandgirlsLA's Jessie.

    https://www.candygirlla.com/%EC%A0%9C%EC%8B%9C%EC%B9%B4

    I tried a reverse image search and nothing came up. I tried searching the board under Jessica, Jessie, Sica and no reports so it looks like no one has seen her under these names. I'm half tempted to TOFT.

  3. #26290
    Quote Originally Posted by BobLove  [View Original Post]
    Rumor from a S. Korean girl is that and. Korean girls are short.
    I think previous poster meant to say is that rumor is that these super short girls are from North Korea. South Korean women are tall, maybe very tall depending on your reference. 5'8"+ is not unusual. I'd say 5'5" is about average for 25 and younger.

  4. #26289

    Josie (formerly Tiny)

    Totally understand why she was called Tiny. Looks young until shower time and then the age shows. Good service. Definitely not 20's. My guess is mid to late 30's or early 40's.

  5. #26288
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    Posts: 1258
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmGib1  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's just me but is there an invasion of height challenged kgirls in LA? Are they same girls rebranded then advertised at different agencies and with different pics?

    You bookers and agencies reading this. Please get more kgirls 5'3"and taller!

    Everyone has their taste but I personally prefer women that are taller than 5 foot. I see 4'9", 4' 11" popping up everywhere. Are they being imported on purpose or that is it just coincidence?
    Rumor from a S. Korean girl is that and. Korean girls are short.

  6. #26287
    For girls that grew up overseas especially that don't consume a western or americanized diet they tend to be smaller is size and stature. Especially Asian girls, just look at the Asian girls that grow up here, bigger chest, taller, and rounder bootys. It's not like the agencies get a giant pool of select taller girls to choose from.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAmGib1  [View Original Post]
    Maybe it's just me but is there an invasion of height challenged Kgirls in LA? Are they same girls rebranded then advertised at different agencies and with different pics?

    You bookers and agencies reading this. Please get more kgirls 5'3"and taller!

    Everyone has their taste but I personally prefer women that are taller than 5 foot. I see 4'9", 4' 11" popping up everywhere. Are they being imported on purpose or that is it just coincidence?

  7. #26286
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    Posts: 1258

    Whats the deal with the 4 footers?

    Maybe it's just me but is there an invasion of height challenged kgirls in LA? Are they same girls rebranded then advertised at different agencies and with different pics?

    You bookers and agencies reading this. Please get more kgirls 5'3"and taller!

    Everyone has their taste but I personally prefer women that are taller than 5 foot. I see 4'9", 4' 11" popping up everywhere. Are they being imported on purpose or that is it just coincidence?

  8. #26285
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    Posts: 1258
    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    I'll add that it could add to their business because 1) it reinforces and cements the trustworthiness of each other during screening and 2) it becomes a two lane highway for potential clients as mongers have the ability to move between the two if they find girls they want to see.
    Trust is earned not given. If they do for me then I do for them and both win.

  9. #26284
    Quote Originally Posted by StopTheMonger  [View Original Post]
    I find it a little bit of a red flag with the 'new' girls coming into M's stable working elsewhere at upcharge agencies and changing prices. I actually did have an issue with Miso / Minnie wanting an upcharge for MSOG when I booked her through M. Instead of CG / Losangelesasian, luckily I have been a regular of hers long enough to be let off the hook. I told her at M. I was never charged that (but I did not complain to M). I thought (or so it has was in the past), that M's girls were always a little more exclusive and offered non-upcharge BBFS MSOG 'perks'.

    So I'm a little ambivalent about it. Might TOFTT based on reports.
    If you're ambivalent about what services will be provided just be upfront with any booker you choose to deal with. Rather than it left being up in the air until showtime, it's better to just ask what exactly you're getting and at what price. It's part of the bookers responsibility to clearly convey and confirm this with the client. No need to be coy or beat around the Bush about it either.

  10. #26283

    Daisy

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDust58  [View Original Post]
    Daisy looks like those Korean college girls you want to nail. Real cute, def recommend if you like younger. Body is closer to Pink but with full B cups. I haven't seen her since her return but booker told me she has lost some weight. I will revisit to see how she looks. You can't go wrong with her.
    Slimmer than before, couple of new small tattoos, new hair cut (length has stayed the same), but everyone else has remained the same. Sessions with her is unique, feels more like a coed fuckbuddy than anything else causes she just so goofy at times.

  11. #26282
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmGib1  [View Original Post]
    Yes, protect the girls and the mongers. Screen as needed to ensure this.

    However, I believe having a track record of booking 50+ appointments per year, for many years (without issue) and with reputable agencies that have been in business for over 5 yrs. Is the best reference you can have for another agency. I have found that many kgirl agencies already have relationships with each other or have done competitive intelligence on other kgirl orgs.

    Most bookers will only verify a longtime client and they do it as a favor to that client, not because it adds to their own business.
    I'll add that it could add to their business because 1) it reinforces and cements the trustworthiness of each other during screening and 2) it becomes a two lane highway for potential clients as mongers have the ability to move between the two if they find girls they want to see.

  12. #26281
    Quote Originally Posted by CreamInside  [View Original Post]
    This is the post that I refer to. This is what happens when screening is not good enough. Yes it's not a perfect system but I would much rather the bookers take as many precautions as possible if it lessens the chance of something like this ever happening again. Why don't these out of towners visit the Bay Area instead? It's much cheaper and there's virtually no real screening.
    Again, I wouldn't lay offense to out of towners just because they are out of towners. No one has provided concrete proof that it was or wasn't. It's disingenuous to point fingers when we don't know the facts.

    I'm not sure what screening would be enough to sniff out bad actors like this. The current system no ways addresses this as everyone whose gone vetting knows. And to pivot to measures that do would scare away business of all but incredibly dedicated and die hard kgirl fans.

  13. #26280
    Quote Originally Posted by CreamInside  [View Original Post]
    There's a reason why some k-orgs don't even take references from each other. Do you think that it is absolutely worth it to go through the trouble of screening an out of towner for one weekend for like maybe one appointment? It's just not efficient at all considering the risk involved of clearing a new monger. These out of town mongers are going to come in and want to see the most popular girl. So we are going to have to disagree. I do see your point but at the same time, I'm a selfish local monger who wants to protect our hobby for our sakes so you need to see it from other people's perspectives as well. From an org stand point, it really makes no sense when there are plenty of local mongers that they could be screening that can become weekly regulars instead, which is a better use of their time. Look at how hard it is to get into M's agency, there's a good reason for that. I mean sure, we don't absolutely have proof that the violators and bad actors are out of towners. But why take that risk even? Like I've mentioned in the past, I've had no issues getting cleared when traveling so if anyone passing through has legit references then they have nothing to worry about.

    Another thing to think about is the constant increases in pricing. These guys like to complain about the prices so often. Well maybe if there were fewer mongers getting cleared then the girls would not be so hard to book (even among upcharge girls) and fewer price increases (theoretically of course). Anyone who deserves to get cleared and who goes through the hard screening absolutely deserves to be cleared. I'm just saying let's not try to help EVERYONE get cleared. There's absolutely no need for it since all it takes is one bad apple to ruin everything.
    I'm not sure what you have against out of towners to be so biased against their inclusion to be screened. Whether a potential client is worthwhile to screen or not will fall onto each booker / agencies' requirements and their particular situation. There's no telling where or when a bad apple will appear but all else being equal, the likelihood of one being an out of towner or a local is the same. Being a local or out of towner does not inherently make you a bad apple. Furthermore, there's theoretically a higher chance of a bad apple appearing in the local client pool than out of towners due the sheer numbers involved. Screening isn't perfect and not up to the task of evaluating how a monger will act so there will be a few who fall through the cracks.

    Everyone will have different opinions but my take on helping newcomers is simple. I'll help anyone who wants to genuinely enter the kgirl scene by pointing where to find contact information and what they can expect and need to provide for screening. Whether they are local or not matters not to me. It'll be up to what references they already have, what they are willing to disclose, and the bookers evaluation of them to see if they get access or not. My helping them does not affect whether or not they will get cleared, it only eliminates a step in the process that they can do on their own by browsing here or on other forums. In addition, bookers worth their salt knows that they need to keep increasing their client pool to combat losses from attrition (mongers leaving the kgirl scene and competition / favoring other agencies) to keep their girls booked as much as possible.

    I'm not sure how price increases fits into all of this in from your perspective. But price increases has been a long time coming given how flat rates have been for years. Take a moment to ponder that they increased prices during a pandemic and economic downturn. This flies in the face of any sane business model. We can only speculate on why but I think increased overhead costs started to eat at their margins or simple greed works too. Regardless, it would be naive to think it would remain the same.

  14. #26279

    Daisy

    Quote Originally Posted by LandOfKGirls  [View Original Post]
    Daisy & Jean could be sorority sisters in college. They don't look alike but of the same vintage. Looks-wise I'm happy with either. It would have been interesting to try Daisy & Jean doubles but it wasn't advertised during the brief time they were roommates and I didn't ask. I can't comment on comparisons to Pink or Eunji.

    Daisy cums highly recommended.
    Just saw Daisy today. She lost a lot of weight. She wasn't fat or chubby before. But she wasn't a spinner. She's got bolt on B's that are perfect for her frame. Her DFK and BBBJ have both improved since her long break. I'll definitely be repeating as often as I can. She's my current ATF and best currently available, especially with no upcharge.

  15. #26278

    Stella

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    She told me she has a few girls and I haven't looked to see what other agencies they work at. Are these girls familiar to anyone?

    Mickey.

    Sica.

    Stella.

    Vivian.

    https://myalbum.com/album/4j4zspr3tJSf
    Damn. Stellas look is right up my alley. Lets hope she's real.

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