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  1. #26281
    Quote Originally Posted by CreamInside  [View Original Post]
    This is the post that I refer to. This is what happens when screening is not good enough. Yes it's not a perfect system but I would much rather the bookers take as many precautions as possible if it lessens the chance of something like this ever happening again. Why don't these out of towners visit the Bay Area instead? It's much cheaper and there's virtually no real screening.
    Again, I wouldn't lay offense to out of towners just because they are out of towners. No one has provided concrete proof that it was or wasn't. It's disingenuous to point fingers when we don't know the facts.

    I'm not sure what screening would be enough to sniff out bad actors like this. The current system no ways addresses this as everyone whose gone vetting knows. And to pivot to measures that do would scare away business of all but incredibly dedicated and die hard kgirl fans.

  2. #26280
    Quote Originally Posted by CreamInside  [View Original Post]
    There's a reason why some k-orgs don't even take references from each other. Do you think that it is absolutely worth it to go through the trouble of screening an out of towner for one weekend for like maybe one appointment? It's just not efficient at all considering the risk involved of clearing a new monger. These out of town mongers are going to come in and want to see the most popular girl. So we are going to have to disagree. I do see your point but at the same time, I'm a selfish local monger who wants to protect our hobby for our sakes so you need to see it from other people's perspectives as well. From an org stand point, it really makes no sense when there are plenty of local mongers that they could be screening that can become weekly regulars instead, which is a better use of their time. Look at how hard it is to get into M's agency, there's a good reason for that. I mean sure, we don't absolutely have proof that the violators and bad actors are out of towners. But why take that risk even? Like I've mentioned in the past, I've had no issues getting cleared when traveling so if anyone passing through has legit references then they have nothing to worry about.

    Another thing to think about is the constant increases in pricing. These guys like to complain about the prices so often. Well maybe if there were fewer mongers getting cleared then the girls would not be so hard to book (even among upcharge girls) and fewer price increases (theoretically of course). Anyone who deserves to get cleared and who goes through the hard screening absolutely deserves to be cleared. I'm just saying let's not try to help EVERYONE get cleared. There's absolutely no need for it since all it takes is one bad apple to ruin everything.
    I'm not sure what you have against out of towners to be so biased against their inclusion to be screened. Whether a potential client is worthwhile to screen or not will fall onto each booker / agencies' requirements and their particular situation. There's no telling where or when a bad apple will appear but all else being equal, the likelihood of one being an out of towner or a local is the same. Being a local or out of towner does not inherently make you a bad apple. Furthermore, there's theoretically a higher chance of a bad apple appearing in the local client pool than out of towners due the sheer numbers involved. Screening isn't perfect and not up to the task of evaluating how a monger will act so there will be a few who fall through the cracks.

    Everyone will have different opinions but my take on helping newcomers is simple. I'll help anyone who wants to genuinely enter the kgirl scene by pointing where to find contact information and what they can expect and need to provide for screening. Whether they are local or not matters not to me. It'll be up to what references they already have, what they are willing to disclose, and the bookers evaluation of them to see if they get access or not. My helping them does not affect whether or not they will get cleared, it only eliminates a step in the process that they can do on their own by browsing here or on other forums. In addition, bookers worth their salt knows that they need to keep increasing their client pool to combat losses from attrition (mongers leaving the kgirl scene and competition / favoring other agencies) to keep their girls booked as much as possible.

    I'm not sure how price increases fits into all of this in from your perspective. But price increases has been a long time coming given how flat rates have been for years. Take a moment to ponder that they increased prices during a pandemic and economic downturn. This flies in the face of any sane business model. We can only speculate on why but I think increased overhead costs started to eat at their margins or simple greed works too. Regardless, it would be naive to think it would remain the same.

  3. #26279

    Daisy

    Quote Originally Posted by LandOfKGirls  [View Original Post]
    Daisy & Jean could be sorority sisters in college. They don't look alike but of the same vintage. Looks-wise I'm happy with either. It would have been interesting to try Daisy & Jean doubles but it wasn't advertised during the brief time they were roommates and I didn't ask. I can't comment on comparisons to Pink or Eunji.

    Daisy cums highly recommended.
    Just saw Daisy today. She lost a lot of weight. She wasn't fat or chubby before. But she wasn't a spinner. She's got bolt on B's that are perfect for her frame. Her DFK and BBBJ have both improved since her long break. I'll definitely be repeating as often as I can. She's my current ATF and best currently available, especially with no upcharge.

  4. #26278

    Stella

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    She told me she has a few girls and I haven't looked to see what other agencies they work at. Are these girls familiar to anyone?

    Mickey.

    Sica.

    Stella.

    Vivian.

    https://myalbum.com/album/4j4zspr3tJSf
    Damn. Stellas look is right up my alley. Lets hope she's real.

  5. #26277
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    Vivian of M

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I assume it's safe to say most of these are rebrands? Anyone know if they are good and the stats?
    Vivian of "M" used to be Hazel of SweetAsianGem and she was at $100 up charge. The mere fact that she has switched to "M" at no Up Charge is an indication of No Business or slow Business for her. Secondly her photos are photos of IG model and those are not her real self photos.

    Some of these girls that have re invented themselves (Aubrey, Vanessa) and start raising their rate from $320 to $380 will have a hard time sustaining or maintaining clients because once a client pay $320 for something, a client can't pay $380 for the same thing; at least, I won't. I was planning to see Aubrey / Naomi but upon her price increase she was a hard no for me.

    Also with the Stock Market taking a Daily dump, I can assume that it is safe to say that business will slow down to good degree.

  6. #26276
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    She told me she has a few girls and I haven't looked to see what other agencies they work at. Are these girls familiar to anyone?

    Mickey.

    Sica.

    Stella.

    Vivian.

    https://myalbum.com/album/4j4zspr3tJSf
    Stella and Vivian also booked by SFK.

    https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/models

  7. #26275

    New M. Girls and price issues

    I find it a little bit of a red flag with the 'new' girls coming into M's stable working elsewhere at upcharge agencies and changing prices. I actually did have an issue with Miso / Minnie wanting an upcharge for MSOG when I booked her through M. Instead of CG / Losangelesasian, luckily I have been a regular of hers long enough to be let off the hook. I told her at M. I was never charged that (but I did not complain to M). I thought (or so it has was in the past), that M's girls were always a little more exclusive and offered non-upcharge BBFS MSOG 'perks'.

    So I'm a little ambivalent about it. Might TOFTT based on reports.

  8. #26274
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    She told me she has a few girls and I haven't looked to see what other agencies they work at. Are these girls familiar to anyone?

    Mickey.

    Sica.

    Stella.

    Vivian.

    https://myalbum.com/album/4j4zspr3tJSf
    I assume it's safe to say most of these are rebrands? Anyone know if they are good and the stats?

  9. #26273
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDust58  [View Original Post]
    Daisy looks like those Korean college girls you want to nail. Real cute, def recommend if you like younger. Body is closer to Pink but with full B cups. I haven't seen her since her return but booker told me she has lost some weight. I will revisit to see how she looks. You can't go wrong with her.
    Daisy & Jean could be sorority sisters in college. They don't look alike but of the same vintage. Looks-wise I'm happy with either. It would have been interesting to try Daisy & Jean doubles but it wasn't advertised during the brief time they were roommates and I didn't ask. I can't comment on comparisons to Pink or Eunji.

    Daisy cums highly recommended.

  10. #26272

    Daisy recommend

    Quote Originally Posted by Panda1203  [View Original Post]
    In terms of looks, how does Daisy fair compared to Jean, Eunji, and Pink?
    Daisy looks like those Korean college girls you want to nail. Real cute, def recommend if you like younger. Body is closer to Pink but with full B cups. I haven't seen her since her return but booker told me she has lost some weight. I will revisit to see how she looks. You can't go wrong with her.

  11. #26271
    Quote Originally Posted by AvgGuy  [View Original Post]
    Mickey.

    https://www.losangelesasian.com/ (on their hx).

    Sica.

    https://www.losangelesasian.com/

    https://www.candygirlla.com/%EC%A0%9C%EC%8B%9C%EC%B9%B4

    Stella.

    Looks nice, don't remember seeing elsewhere.

    Vivian.

    Very familiar but can't recall where I've seen her pics.
    Vivian was using the name Hazel at SAG. Jack had asked if it was Hazel of M but it is not. Sizes and pictures didnt match her at all.

  12. #26270

    M's new lineup

    Quote Originally Posted by AvgGuy  [View Original Post]
    Mickey.

    https://www.losangelesasian.com/ (on their hx).

    Sica.

    https://www.losangelesasian.com/

    https://www.candygirlla.com/%EC%A0%9C%EC%8B%9C%EC%B9%B4

    Stella.

    Looks nice, don't remember seeing elsewhere.

    Vivian.

    Very familiar but can't recall where I've seen her pics.
    All these rebrands and fake pics are making it confusing:

    Mickey / Miki / Minnie appears to be Miso?

    Sica / Jessica / Jessie was mentioned before: DaSmith pointed out the pics are from Alibaba's AliExpress's Pantyhose listing:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...hlight=jessica#post5747327.

  13. #26269
    Oh. And Vivian is similar to Kassie from violafriends.net.

    But I think that picture is from an ig model.

  14. #26268

    Norcal girls

    Quote Originally Posted by AvgGuy  [View Original Post]
    Mickey.

    https://www.losangelesasian.com/ (on their hx).

    Sica.

    https://www.losangelesasian.com/

    https://www.candygirlla.com/%EC%A0%9C%EC%8B%9C%EC%B9%B4

    Stella.

    Looks nice, don't remember seeing elsewhere.

    Vivian.

    Very familiar but can't recall where I've seen her pics.
    Mickey went by Mari at BGC.

    http://web.archive.org/web/202112120...om/bunny-mari/

    Stella went by Kerri at Cara's angels.

    http://caraangels.com/KERRI/

  15. #26267
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    She told me she has a few girls and I haven't looked to see what other agencies they work at. Are these girls familiar to anyone?

    Mickey.

    Sica.

    Stella.

    Vivian.

    https://myalbum.com/album/4j4zspr3tJSf
    Mickeys third pic was used by bunnygirls Mari in the bay. Tiny thing but also said to be on the older side.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211218...om/bunny-mari/

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