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And the SP's sometimes hang here
In my 10 years in the hobby, most of them on this forum, I've been reprimanded twice via PM from SP's who lurk on this forum but do not post for sharing details of my visit. This seems much more common with white, or non-AMP providers, it's never happened with anyone from an AMP. So I tend to be a little more vague now with those reports if I post them at all. Especially if the girl specifically asks me not to share any details of my visits.
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A number of us have been burned after being helpful to a dumb or rookie monger.
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Been there.
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I once had a provider who got mad at me for giving descriptive details for our encounter. I was a regular. She told me that not everyone could get what I got because I was special to her. (Have to admit I was a little choked up) She explained she only did the truly filthy shit with people she liked and trusted. I was so bummed when she got married. I kept seeing her after she "retired," but she got married they moved to Arizona. Damn she was filthy and that is hard to come by.
A number of us have been burned after being helpful to a dumb or rookie monger.
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Very True
 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one.
I haven't cracked the code of how to get them all to open up their menus and wish that I have. It's not like I'm some young stud, by all accounts just I'm an average guy, of average looks, with an average body, and an average size tool, so it has nothing to do with any of that. The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
Very well said. Keep yourself clean, don't be a jerk and don't be cheap and you never know what can happen. Thanks for the great post.
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Inflation I guess
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https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/586-745-9836
https://www.karmeladiaz.com/disclosure
Twitter can be found with some recent photos (and a topless one of her piercings if you go WAY down).
Pros:
Attractive, she doesn't post face photos due to some info she may choose to share with you if you go, it's not my business (and cannot confirm truth).
Very safe area, on the border of Sterling / Shelby / Rochester Hills-ish. Private Condo / Apt setup.
Nude massage from the getgo with encouraged roaming, just no FIV / insertion.
Chill appointment, got to know you a bit before asking "what do you want" type talk.
Very professional and covering bases of "Can I do X, can I do why, are you comfortable with A", etc.
Easy scheduling but my tip: Call when you arrive, she isn't super quick (with me) on texting back so I waited / assumed I was going to be stood up, call on arrival.
Was going to give her a try but base rate is now 280 and 90 minute Tantra Massage 400. Inflation I guess. Pass!!
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I've been advertising this
Most here seem to want the thrill of the chase.
I say find your girl and work with her, you get much better service. You write that you are working with two girls, you have a good income. Working with one girl is 200 a week and at the extent of my hobby funds.
Find a girl that gives a good massage first, and be loyal and regular to her and it goes a long way.
Don't be safe, be her regular.
 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one.
I haven't cracked the code of how to get them all to open up their menus and wish that I have. It's not like I'm some young stud, by all accounts just I'm an average guy, of average looks, with an average body, and an average size tool, so it has nothing to do with any of that. The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
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Individuals are just that
 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one.
I haven't cracked the code of how to get them all to open up their menus and wish that I have. It's not like I'm some young stud, by all accounts just I'm an average guy, of average looks, with an average body, and an average size tool, so it has nothing to do with any of that. The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
I once had a provider who got mad at me for giving descriptive details for our encounter. I was a regular. She told me that not everyone could get what I got because I was special to her. (Have to admit I was a little choked up) She explained she only did the truly filthy shit with people she liked and trusted. I was so bummed when she got married. I kept seeing her after she "retired," but she got married they moved to Arizona. Damn she was filthy and that is hard to come by.
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Yes
 Originally Posted by CarmeloJoe35
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Do you recall her name when at the Van Dyke Spa last summer?
It was Yoo-Mi.
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Ditto
 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one..
Hear, hear! While most of us seem to enjoy the thrill of the chase (will it or won't it happen) vs. The sure thing, it often takes many visits to build up the trust / comfort level. We can often dismiss a provider on the performance of one visit. If there was something about them that intrigued you I always give a second or third try. Taking my own advice I'm going to try another visit with a provider mentioned here before who by all counts has been totally legit. But other intel suggests she used to work somewhere that was not legit, so somewhere in her is a more wild side. Please do not PM asking who. I'll report back with my findings.
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 Originally Posted by Jp1225
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JD. Your asshole had me on the floor. ,I had much the same experience although mine was my hand was near her arm pit while holding her tit and after leaving I could smell this smell I couldn't place til I smelled my hand and was strong underarm smell. I think her brain issue may affect her ability to keep up on her hygiene.
I never got fully hard with her so I never fully enjoyed. She's cheap that's the rub.
Hygiene odor is the worst. I almost quit the hobby the one time I experienced it. No matter how hard you scrub or try running from it, it just won't go away. In fact, I wish I wasn't reminded of it because I can almost sense it as I'm writing this. To be clear, it's not about the provider mentioned. I have never seen her.
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Any intel?
Anyone have any intel on this one? Greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
https://detroit.rubratings.com/256079
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Nailed it
 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one.
I haven't cracked the code of how to get them all to open up their menus and wish that I have. It's not like I'm some young stud, by all accounts just I'm an average guy, of average looks, with an average body, and an average size tool, so it has nothing to do with any of that. The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
And often PUBLIC Kiss & Tell spells disaster and ends the relationship.
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 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one.
I haven't cracked the code of how to get them all to open up their menus and wish that I have. It's not like I'm some young stud, by all accounts just I'm an average guy, of average looks, with an average body, and an average size tool, so it has nothing to do with any of that. The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
Aye captain. , could not agree more. !!
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 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
If that's not the code, that's a very good means of how to open doors. Put time and effort into someone, make connections /"warm up" to each other, and doors open.
But, as you said, YMMV and I absolutely agree with your entire point.
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So True!
 Originally Posted by DTownMick
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I don't report much on here but I read a lot of the conversations and figured I'd add my two cents on something.
I've read many reports and comments about how this service provider or that service provider doesn't do this or doesn't do that and, the replies calling individuals liars for their reports of their experiences. I can say that from my experience the phrase YMMV can't be more true in this hobby. I've received HE's from providers that from all reports are normally legit providers. I've received oral from providers that are normally just standard HE providers. I have two providers that now offer FS, after seeing one service provider for many years and only receiving a standard HE we have now reached a point where FS is available without request or negotiation. The other provider I have seen for years has been completely legit but I saw on a weekly basis because she gives that best deep tissue massage I've ever had and over the last year or so has completely opened up all services but, with no request for compensation. It's more of a sexual relationship rather than a business transaction with the second one.
I haven't cracked the code of how to get them all to open up their menus and wish that I have. It's not like I'm some young stud, by all accounts just I'm an average guy, of average looks, with an average body, and an average size tool, so it has nothing to do with any of that. The only thing that I can hypothesize is that I have put time and effort into building a rapport with them and they are comfortable with me and therefore the offerings with some of these providers have opened up for me.
Truer words were never spoken. Thanks Mick! I've had exactly the same experiences.
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Not just you
 Originally Posted by FloppyMcStiffy
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I went to the one near the high school. Lisa is the owner and generally the only one there. I've seen her for years, before she opened that location. She tells me she only does HE for me and a few other special clients but I don't buy that. She's nothing special to look at but the finish is good. She used to allow DATY and get nude but she quit when covid hit and said she won't do it anymore.
I've gotten a HE there, haven't been since just before covid. She was not very happy to be doing it, I can say that for sure. I didn't get a good vibe from the place so I haven't been back.
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