Stupid Shit In San Diego

[TitanTool]

Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.

Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.

It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.

My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.

My understanding is the ladies had their credentials checked and all of them had licenses, so there was no violations this last visit, so no strike (if that is even a thing). Those security doors do nothing to dissuade LE from doing what they want to do when they show up. Are you hoping you can pull-out and get dressed before they make it through the door is that it? You think it would save your ass if you did. The last two gentleman got tickets and were fully dressed, one in the lobby.

[Ryan1979]

Try not to take this the wrong way, but based on your suggestion, I have trouble believing you've visited these establishments. I mean, I have and they already have what you've suggested. Just sayin.

No worries Doc, I have not been there since the last police visit so this is good to hear. 108 and smile have also recently implemented similar.

[DoctorOlds]

Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.

Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.

It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.

My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.

Try not to take this the wrong way, but based on your suggestion, I have trouble believing you've visited these establishments. I mean, I have and they already have what you've suggested. Just sayin.

[RChangDatyKing]

Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.

Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.

It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.

My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.

My opinion with AMPs and security.

I agree with you that LEO don't usually target Johns when they visit massage parlors. Of course if they see you doing the deed that will / may be a different story. I don't know the circumstances of why the 2 guys were cited at VIP and I'm not going to make guesses or assumptions what the reasons were. But in my almost 15 plus years of mongering and 10 plus at AMPs; I've been there when many AMPs were visited by police and I was either told to stay in the room, or I can leave.

I have been to VIP more than a dozen times since the change in ownership and never did I feel afraid because they were visited by LEO. I think AMPs (VIP included) are the safest places to hobby. We are going to a legally operated business for a massage. I would be more concerned when LEO is visiting one of the buildings on Camino Del Rio or in Point Loma, or one of the AAMPs because they will most likely have a warrant to enter those premises and will be looking for evidence to use in court. It would be hard to tell LEO I'm there for a massage at an AAMP.

It's interesting there's only talks about VIP and security when other Spas also were visited by LEO in recent months but there were no mention of those visits. I know Smile was visited shortly after VIP had their visit and I believed some of the girls received tickets. LEO can visit any AMPs at anytime, not just VIP.

You mentioned the 3 strikes rule. Did you know that Flanders has already been ticketed 3 times already? Yet they are still operating. No Johns / customers has ever been ticketed. I know this because these girls (hundreds of members) talk on Weechat about places that have been visited my police, places that have been robbed, etc. I don't know what all the rules are and I'm not going to guess. Again it goes back to my earlier comments- AMPs are safe to visit because they are a legal business and we are going there for a massage.

With regards to locks, cameras, etc. I actually prefer the simple door that VIP-SV, 108, and 7 has. I don't care for the heavy security gate doors. Yes, I like the camera monitors in the business so they can see who's entering the facility. I don't care for the large monitors in the rooms, but rather I like the mobile ones the girls download on a handheld.

You said you've seen most of the lovely ladies at VIP. I'm assuming the SV location? Have you been to their new location because it does have the security door, cameras, etc. If you prefer discreet then VIP2 offers that. I feel safe going to all the AMPs.

[Ryan1979]

Like many of you boys, I've experienced the charms of most of the lady's at VIP. All Asian beauties that speak English and provide a GFE if not more, especially when they first opened. Stories of police visits don't normally deter me from any spas as they usually target the spa and girls as opposed to the John's, but in the case of the last police visit to VIP a couple of John's were ticketed under a volition code that is as broad as it is vague. Regardless what their court appearance verdict is, it's not something any of us want to deal with.

Their efforts to mitigate the damage are apparent on multiple forums, some clearly identifying themselves and some clearly shill reports, mostly from newly created members on the forums. I can't say I blame them and it's a testament to their understanding of the English language and their knowledge of the forums.

It's my understanding that VIP was busted before the current owners stepped in. I'm not sure how Spring Valley ordinances work, but in San Diego there's a 3-strike rule for spas that are ticketed (spa or girls) 3 x are mandatorily closed. I'm also not sure if this is per owner or per spa license, but VIP kept the spas name so I'm "assuming" the license was transferred to the new owners. The license is generally part of the key costs when acquiring a spa, because it saves the new owners the hassles of applying for the business license and other city requirements associated with a massage business. Eg Registering with the police department. That said, they may now have 2-strikes at the SV location.

My advice to VIP is to install a locked foyer at all their locations and cameras with monitors viewable from all their rooms. In the grand scheme of things, it's a minimal investment and will make them and their guests feel safer.

[The DudeInSd]

Thank you sir. It's always better to be informed with some knowledge and it's up to the person to decide how they take that information and use it.

Despite my 12 years of school and 15 years of practice, we still get the popcorn gallery making their comments.

You're welcome. Stay safe out there.

Cheers.

[ADwightSchrute]

Thank you sir. It's always better to be informed with some knowledge and it's up to the person to decide how they take that information and use it.

Awesome man to hear that your tests came back favorably.

According to the Centers for Disease Control.

Chlamydia is a sexually transmitted infection that is caused by the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis. Chlamydia is the most widely reported STD in the world and is the second most common STD second to HPV.

Oral chlamydia is not as common as genital chlamydia. You are most likely to be diagnosed with chlamydia of the mouth and / or throat if you have oral sex with someone who is carrying the disease. Conversely, if you receive oral sex from someone who is carrying chlamydia in the mouth or throat, you are at high risk for developing genital chlamydia.

Chlamydia is passed through intimate sexual contact. While the disease is most commonly transmitted through penetrative anal or vaginal sex, it may also be passed through oral sex. Generally speaking, the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis is passed through bodily fluids and can infect the cervix, rectum, eyes, throat, mouth, and male urethra.

It is often misunderstood that you cannot contract chlamydia unless infected bodily fluids make contact with a partner's genitals. However, it possible to contract chlamydia in sex that results in a "dry orgasm", or sex that does not involve ejaculation.

Hope this helps.

This is why I don't understand why there are girls out there doing BBBJ and guys receiving them but then comment or think that they should avoid BBFS providers because they are "too dangerous".

[Ryan1979]

I was not aware of the details you provided about chlamydia. That does make me feel better 'cause if the risks of oral is the same as BBFS, I'll go for bare all the way. Hehe!

Awesome man to hear that your tests came back favorably.

According to the Centers for Disease Control.

Chlamydia is a sexually transmitted infection that is caused by the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis. Chlamydia is the most widely reported STD in the world and is the second most common STD second to HPV.

Oral chlamydia is not as common as genital chlamydia. You are most likely to be diagnosed with chlamydia of the mouth and / or throat if you have oral sex with someone who is carrying the disease. Conversely, if you receive oral sex from someone who is carrying chlamydia in the mouth or throat, you are at high risk for developing genital chlamydia.

Chlamydia is passed through intimate sexual contact. While the disease is most commonly transmitted through penetrative anal or vaginal sex, it may also be passed through oral sex. Generally speaking, the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis is passed through bodily fluids and can infect the cervix, rectum, eyes, throat, mouth, and male urethra.

It is often misunderstood that you cannot contract chlamydia unless infected bodily fluids make contact with a partner's genitals. However, it possible to contract chlamydia in sex that results in a "dry orgasm", or sex that does not involve ejaculation.

Hope this helps.

This is why I don't understand why there are girls out there doing BBBJ and guys receiving them but then comment or think that they should avoid BBFS providers because they are "too dangerous".

[The DudeInSd]

I appreciated the words of advice. Thanks Dude!

Results came back favorable! I think the timing of it all was too perfect and made me paranoid.

Circling back your original post about DATY though. Chlamydia testing is only done through a urine sample, so if one's throat gets infected, it wouldn't show up on a urine sample right? Are throat infections not common, is that why they don't test?

Awesome man to hear that your tests came back favorably.

According to the Centers for Disease Control.

Chlamydia is a sexually transmitted infection that is caused by the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis. Chlamydia is the most widely reported STD in the world and is the second most common STD second to HPV.

Oral chlamydia is not as common as genital chlamydia. You are most likely to be diagnosed with chlamydia of the mouth and / or throat if you have oral sex with someone who is carrying the disease. Conversely, if you receive oral sex from someone who is carrying chlamydia in the mouth or throat, you are at high risk for developing genital chlamydia.

Chlamydia is passed through intimate sexual contact. While the disease is most commonly transmitted through penetrative anal or vaginal sex, it may also be passed through oral sex. Generally speaking, the bacteria chlamydia trachomatis is passed through bodily fluids and can infect the cervix, rectum, eyes, throat, mouth, and male urethra.

It is often misunderstood that you cannot contract chlamydia unless infected bodily fluids make contact with a partner's genitals. However, it possible to contract chlamydia in sex that results in a "dry orgasm", or sex that does not involve ejaculation.

Hope this helps.

This is why I don't understand why there are girls out there doing BBBJ and guys receiving them but then comment or think that they should avoid BBFS providers because they are "too dangerous".

[PenguinsAndieg]

First off I am an infectious disease physician so I can promise you nobody knows more about this than me. I see patients all the time with this bacterial infection. If you read my post I said "typically" I did not say "always 100% I was simply pointing out to the guy who was wondering about an UTI vs Clap. Yes of course the best way is always to get tested.

I appreciated the words of advice. Thanks Dude!

Results came back favorable! I think the timing of it all was too perfect and made me paranoid.

Circling back your original post about DATY though. Chlamydia testing is only done through a urine sample, so if one's throat gets infected, it wouldn't show up on a urine sample right? Are throat infections not common, is that why they don't test?

[Beerman1982]

Texted the trusted number to check out the new location. Quick reply with Mina and KiKi working. Sign me up. Greeted by Mina at the door as she says, 'I'll be taking care of you tonight. ' Waited until one of you were finishing up. Then comes in KiKi. Hmm. Switch? Didn't mind since I had plans to see KiKi anyway. Mina is more of your GND look and KiKi is PYT look. Love both. While 'exercising' with KiKi, Mina comes in to play. Read one of the earlier posts and you can imagine what went on. Mina is definitely more experienced, skilled and sensual than the two others I've seen (JoJo and KiKi). JoJo is right behind Mina. If tapping a PYT is on your TDL, got to try KiKi. Fantastic experience all around. Best AMP experience by far. For those worried, just go to SV once and get verified. Then go to the second location and have a great time. EZPZ.

[Beerman1982]

Had a bit of down time, so visit to VIP SV. Made an appointment but arrived early. Greeted by CoCo. Put in the room and waited 20 minutes. JoJo comes in. No line up. JoJo is a very playful (fun kind) young lady. You know what goes on so skip the details. Good experience overall. On the way out, I'm given a card with a number to call for VIP 2. Saw KiKi. Liked what I saw. Will be back.

[Mr MuffMan]

I've seen Mina a few times at the Spring Valley location and after they got the new location, I've seen Mina multiple times. In fact 3 times this week! Think it's just how the vibe is so much nicer there and really liking just the one on one intimate sessions with her. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the threesomes at Spring Valley but just been enjoying the one on one time with Mina and it just gets better every visit. Does this mean I have an addiction? Do I need help? LOL.

I say you have excellent taste. Mina is probably one of the best GFE experience at any AMP right now. She has a banging body, give the most sensuous kisses, sexy as hell and her service is top notched. I too like the 3-some foreplay and previews, but getting an uninterrupted time with Mina is unmatched. I guess I too am an addict. LOL.

I've seen Mina about 10 times now (and I'm getting ready to go to see her again right now haha) - so I guess you could say I'm addicted as well LOL. We have good taste fellas!! Shhhh. Keep it on the down-low, then we can just share her between the three of us LOL.

Mr MuffMan.

[GilfLover]

This would be an ideal fantasy for me.

Maybe VIP will make it come true.

You could come close. My experience with my Mina / Lisa 3-some was they would re-glove me every time I switched between pussy entry. No problems with dual BBBJ, or when I was doing Lisa doggy and Mina was under me with my nutsack in her mouth, but they put on a new cover each time we switched girls and holes. I wondered why they brought in a whole box of raincoats! Haha!

[The DudeInSd]

Man, stop spreading false information left and right. Chlamydia can be asymptomatic. What you are saying shows you are misinformed and this is dangerous if anyone believes you. People in this hobby should be tested regularly even if no symptoms. Stay safe guys.

First off I am an infectious disease physician so I can promise you nobody knows more about this than me. I see patients all the time with this bacterial infection. If you read my post I said "typically" I did not say "always 100% I was simply pointing out to the guy who was wondering about an UTI vs Clap. Yes of course the best way is always to get tested.