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  1. #5383

    Last Sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetTroller  [View Original Post]
    With the clear night I decided to go out for a bit and see what I might find. Plenty of girls out, mostly from 137th down to the motels. I just couldn't really find any who appealed to me. Most were overly made-up with their wigs, eyelashes, eyebrows and make-up, a few almost looked as though they were in some sort of theater play, their make-up very much caked-on and pasty white. Quite a few were just too overweight for my taste. I parked in the usual spot and watched a few walk past, a couple of them walked over to the window and asked if I might be interested. Just not feeling it.

    I did pass the ubiquitous, at least to me, BSW spinner who wears glasses. I don't stroll much these days, but whenever I do there is a good chance I'll see this girl out there. She's got a great little spinner body, usually in a short skirt. I've talked with her on two occasions over the past year, all safety, rate starts at $120 and from what I recall doesn't give head. Last time I talked with her she wanted to charge me $20 for giving her phone number and I immediately shut that down. No fuckin way I'd ever do that, and it ticked me off. But every time I see her, I want that body, LOL. I was stuck at a stoplight and she walked past from across the street, smiled at me and nodded. So tonight I actually had the fleeting thought of trying to go covered just to see what she's like. But then I remembered that I didn't have any condoms and whenever I do use them, I like to use certain brands. I didn't want to leave it up to her to supply one because often their options suck. So I talked myself out of it. It's hard to go on a description here, but anyone ever date her? She's from southern California but been up here for probably almost a year now. Told me she was 20, glasses, thin spinner body, nice brown skin, usually longer dark hair (probably a wig). Against my better judgement, I think the time is coming when I'll pull the trigger.

    Really nice but very young-looking tiny BSW spinner approached me down near 107th. Had seen her earlier up near 125th. Tight yoga or stretch pants, attractive face. She came to the window but I was spooked by how young she might be. I shook my head "no" and pulled away. She was pretty damn hot though.

    That was the most activity I've had out on Aurora in at least a couple of months. I feel like an amateur these days, all skittish and unsure. It's not that the girls out there are all bad-looking, it's a combination of factors which essentially causes me to talk myself out of a potential experience. That combination involves the overall feeling of the street-hustle, limited service, overall lack of connection. Try as I have been, I'm just not feeling it with these huslter girls from California since 2020. Something about it is just off and I've been unable to verbally describe nor articulate it in the same way that I'm feeling it whenever I'm out there. Just not the same anymore.
    Your last sentence really says it all, ST. It's not the same, and will likely never be. On top of it all, we now have the entire North Precinct either parked or cruising around out there. It makes me skittish and unsure also, which I've never been until recently. Limited service and stratospheric rates only reinforce my reluctance to even bother burning fuel anymore.

  2. #5382

    Friday Evening

    With the clear night I decided to go out for a bit and see what I might find. Plenty of girls out, mostly from 137th down to the motels. I just couldn't really find any who appealed to me. Most were overly made-up with their wigs, eyelashes, eyebrows and make-up, a few almost looked as though they were in some sort of theater play, their make-up very much caked-on and pasty white. Quite a few were just too overweight for my taste. I parked in the usual spot and watched a few walk past, a couple of them walked over to the window and asked if I might be interested. Just not feeling it.

    I did pass the ubiquitous, at least to me, BSW spinner who wears glasses. I don't stroll much these days, but whenever I do there is a good chance I'll see this girl out there. She's got a great little spinner body, usually in a short skirt. I've talked with her on two occasions over the past year, all safety, rate starts at $120 and from what I recall doesn't give head. Last time I talked with her she wanted to charge me $20 for giving her phone number and I immediately shut that down. No fuckin way I'd ever do that, and it ticked me off. But every time I see her, I want that body, LOL. I was stuck at a stoplight and she walked past from across the street, smiled at me and nodded. So tonight I actually had the fleeting thought of trying to go covered just to see what she's like. But then I remembered that I didn't have any condoms and whenever I do use them, I like to use certain brands. I didn't want to leave it up to her to supply one because often their options suck. So I talked myself out of it. It's hard to go on a description here, but anyone ever date her? She's from southern California but been up here for probably almost a year now. Told me she was 20, glasses, thin spinner body, nice brown skin, usually longer dark hair (probably a wig). Against my better judgement, I think the time is coming when I'll pull the trigger.

    Really nice but very young-looking tiny BSW spinner approached me down near 107th. Had seen her earlier up near 125th. Tight yoga or stretch pants, attractive face. She came to the window but I was spooked by how young she might be. I shook my head "no" and pulled away. She was pretty damn hot though.

    That was the most activity I've had out on Aurora in at least a couple of months. I feel like an amateur these days, all skittish and unsure. It's not that the girls out there are all bad-looking, it's a combination of factors which essentially causes me to talk myself out of a potential experience. That combination involves the overall feeling of the street-hustle, limited service, overall lack of connection. Try as I have been, I'm just not feeling it with these huslter girls from California since 2020. Something about it is just off and I've been unable to verbally describe nor articulate it in the same way that I'm feeling it whenever I'm out there. Just not the same anymore.

  3. #5381

    RE: Transporting a Provider

    Wow, that's a different case than the one I recall. From what I remember, the incident to which I referred happened in Seattle area, I think a casino up in Skagit county. But I'm not surprised that another case very similar to this one also occurred.

    This just brings up a series of questions in my mind. For instance, out on the stroll we're all pretty much transporting the girls. So Hypothetically, if one of us brings her back out to the stroll after our date, are we committing a felony? We all know in our minds that she'll be working out there. She might not have an actual date set-up yet, but we know that at some point after we drop her that she will have another date. So, theoretically, we're assisting in her quest to commit sex work. I wonder where that boundary exists. In this current political climate of prosecutors focusing on johns, I'm wondering if this might be pursued at some point. I could see this being an option particularly in the case where an underage SW is involved.

    Hell, I don't know, just thinking out loud here. The bottom-line is that john busts out on Aurora are coming, I think they're just formulating how they're going to go about it. The above just seems like another charge to throw at the wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alas5877  [View Original Post]
    I remember that on TNA. The issue with that guy was he lived in North Portland. She wanted to go to the casino north of vancouver. Your recollection was right that she ratted him out immediately, but the Washington DA ended up pressing for trafficking charges because he drove her across state lines to commit a felony. He admitted that he knew what she was doing in the casino. That's what got him busted. He admitted what her intentions were plus he drove her across state lines. That's the double whammy that got him convicted. Was like 7 years or something if I remember right.

  4. #5380

    Transportation

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetTroller  [View Original Post]
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

    I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.
    I remember that on TNA. The issue with that guy was he lived in North Portland. She wanted to go to the casino north of vancouver. Your recollection was right that she ratted him out immediately, but the Washington DA ended up pressing for trafficking charges because he drove her across state lines to commit a felony. He admitted that he knew what she was doing in the casino. That's what got him busted. He admitted what her intentions were plus he drove her across state lines. That's the double whammy that got him convicted. Was like 7 years or something if I remember right.

  5. #5379
    Being wordy is what I do, LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by BusSit69  [View Original Post]
    Damn ST, that's a nice got damn break down. Honestly I wish more guys would report here often. I don't pick up, but have seen the view this past summa. Was AMAZING!

  6. #5378

    Nice

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetTroller  [View Original Post]
    I don't think the police really care about your car, honestly. If it's a nice ride, they might look at it more than others, but other than that I don't think they'll really care.

    Generally, SPD aren't really busting anyone right now. I'm not sure when that's going to change, but at some point it will. They're a presence because businesses and residents want them to be, and they move around as a form of deterrence. The girls are used to them being there and continue to keep doing what they do. That being said, I have seen moments over the past year when SPD did stop a guy after picking a girl up. It's typically not until after she gets in the car, and she'll come to your window to ask if you have a certain amount of money before she gets in. Traditionally this has been bad form, but all of the girls are doing it now so it'll be hard to get a date without talking to her through the window. Just know that this is how police stings operate, the girl talks at you through the window. The difference is that an undercover will pressure you immediately to agree to a sex act for money. She'll signal and the police will pounce. Most girls out there right now are only asking how much money you have and if you have what they're looking for, she'll get in. There's nothing illegal about that, but when I've seen guys get stopped it's always been right after the pick-up. I don't know if there's much to go on, but they'll separate the both of you and because the girl doesn't know you and doesn't care about you, she'll tell the police whatever they want to hear so she can get back out to make some money. You'll be stuck holding the bag in front of god and everyone for probably a long time until they either cite you or let you go. It's not very common and probably not likely to happen to you, but that's how I've seen it go down since 2020 up to now.

    That being said, I'm just not comfortable talking to a girl, much less picking her up, in front of police. I just don't want them to know 100% that I'm out there picking-up girls. That could make me a target for a later date. But I'm also not the type to pick-up an SW in front of a lot of regular pedestrians or traffic. That's just me.

    So in short, you'll probably be fine. Just be as clandestine as possible and remember. The girls know that the police nor the city prosecutors are after them anymore, they're after the johns. Because of that, they don't care if you feel uncomfortable while they solicit in front of police. The other warning I'll give is that there seems to be a rise in underage girls out there, so you'll want to be careful with that.

    Other than that, do what your stomach allows.
    Damn ST, that's a nice got damn break down. Honestly I wish more guys would report here often. I don't pick up, but have seen the view this past summa. Was AMAZING!

  7. #5377
    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkin08  [View Original Post]
    I took my first trip to aurora ave the other night and seen a couple of decent looking girls but the cops were everywhere, I don't see how it's even possible to pick up the girls with the police roving, and them being posted at the hot spots. I seen a couple cars stopping and talking to the girl right in front of the cops like they weren't there. Also do certain cars get more attention than others cause I feel like my car sticks out like a sore thumb but it's all I have to drive. Thanks for any tips or advice.
    I would never pick up a SW way too much can go wrong. She could have drugs and plant them in your car if you get stopped that's on you. Car dates are a no no for me as well. If you get caught in the act you just elevated it to lewd public conduct which is much more serious. Could be a set up for a rob as well. Not to mention could be a cop you are talking to through the window. I would imagine there are unmarked police cars around the area so even if it "looks clear". Even if there is "NO DEAL" police could attempt to charge you with "Intent to commit the act of engaging in prostitution". If you have no business to be in the area.

    Police are pretty good at coming up with charges, even if they don't stick, an arrest can destroy you life as you know it.

    I am not in Seattle yet moving there next month. Right now where I am police are doing stings 7 days a week. They are getting very sneaky in their attempts to bust guys including using photos and ads from well known providers and putting in a sentence "I got a new number guys, call me here XXXXXXXXXXXX" . The police seem to really be focusing on the purchase now more than the act of selling, so don't think if they put pressure on the girl she would give you up in 1 second flat.

  8. #5376

    RE: Newbie

    I don't think the police really care about your car, honestly. If it's a nice ride, they might look at it more than others, but other than that I don't think they'll really care.

    Generally, SPD aren't really busting anyone right now. I'm not sure when that's going to change, but at some point it will. They're a presence because businesses and residents want them to be, and they move around as a form of deterrence. The girls are used to them being there and continue to keep doing what they do. That being said, I have seen moments over the past year when SPD did stop a guy after picking a girl up. It's typically not until after she gets in the car, and she'll come to your window to ask if you have a certain amount of money before she gets in. Traditionally this has been bad form, but all of the girls are doing it now so it'll be hard to get a date without talking to her through the window. Just know that this is how police stings operate, the girl talks at you through the window. The difference is that an undercover will pressure you immediately to agree to a sex act for money. She'll signal and the police will pounce. Most girls out there right now are only asking how much money you have and if you have what they're looking for, she'll get in. There's nothing illegal about that, but when I've seen guys get stopped it's always been right after the pick-up. I don't know if there's much to go on, but they'll separate the both of you and because the girl doesn't know you and doesn't care about you, she'll tell the police whatever they want to hear so she can get back out to make some money. You'll be stuck holding the bag in front of god and everyone for probably a long time until they either cite you or let you go. It's not very common and probably not likely to happen to you, but that's how I've seen it go down since 2020 up to now.

    That being said, I'm just not comfortable talking to a girl, much less picking her up, in front of police. I just don't want them to know 100% that I'm out there picking-up girls. That could make me a target for a later date. But I'm also not the type to pick-up an SW in front of a lot of regular pedestrians or traffic. That's just me.

    So in short, you'll probably be fine. Just be as clandestine as possible and remember. The girls know that the police nor the city prosecutors are after them anymore, they're after the johns. Because of that, they don't care if you feel uncomfortable while they solicit in front of police. The other warning I'll give is that there seems to be a rise in underage girls out there, so you'll want to be careful with that.

    Other than that, do what your stomach allows.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedSkin08  [View Original Post]
    I took my first trip to aurora ave the other night and seen a couple of decent looking girls but the cops were everywhere, I don't see how it's even possible to pick up the girls with the police roving, and them being posted at the hot spots. I seen a couple cars stopping and talking to the girl right in front of the cops like they weren't there. Also do certain cars get more attention than others cause I feel like my car sticks out like a sore thumb but it's all I have to drive. Thanks for any tips or advice.

  9. #5375
    This is an internet forum, not a court of law. Hence, hearsay is allowed. But there is a solution: if it hurts you, you can make the choice not to read it.



    Quote Originally Posted by ProperGMan  [View Original Post]
    Just rumors and hearsay.

    Remove posts without evidence.

  10. #5374
    Quote Originally Posted by StreetTroller  [View Original Post]
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

    I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.
    I remember that story but not too well. I think in the end the dude got off but yes she reportedly gave him up quickly if I remember correctly.

  11. #5373
    Quote Originally Posted by StreetTroller  [View Original Post]
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

    I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.
    Just rumors and hearsay.

    Remove posts without evidence.

  12. #5372

    Joy Ride.

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetTroller  [View Original Post]
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

    I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.
    This is new to me. Thanks for sharing. I have given rides to a few providers in the past (other states), really good intel here. Thanks again for sharing.

  13. #5371

    Tips for newbie, all the cops made me think twice

    I took my first trip to aurora ave the other night and seen a couple of decent looking girls but the cops were everywhere, I don't see how it's even possible to pick up the girls with the police roving, and them being posted at the hot spots. I seen a couple cars stopping and talking to the girl right in front of the cops like they weren't there. Also do certain cars get more attention than others cause I feel like my car sticks out like a sore thumb but it's all I have to drive. Thanks for any tips or advice.

  14. #5370

    RE: Felonies

    Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

    I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Original703
    But engaging in promotion of prostitution is a class B felony, punishable by a fine of up to $20,000 and / or up to 10 years in prison. Pimping is obviously considered promotion of prostitution, but any act that furthers or advances prostitution can also be classified as "promotion"; the relationship between the sex worker and others who get a cut of the proceeds, or otherwise benefit from prostitution, doesn't have to be a coercive one. If memory serves, this was one of many charges against the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen from TRB. Prosecutors argued that positive reviews / recommendations fit within the definition of promoting prostitution

  15. #5369

    RE: Texas

    As of this past September, it's actually a felony to solicit a prostitute in Texas. Not sure how many they've actually prosecuted thus far, though. With everything else going on in that state, I'm wondering when conservatives will make it illegal to have sex outside of marriage at all down there. Ah, Texas.

    Quote Originally Posted by SfoDavid67  [View Original Post]
    A friend of mine in Dallas got into a HUGE amount of trouble around 2003 or so. He picked up a SW and while on the way to a motel he already had set aside he got stopped by the police. Of course during the course of the interview none of the stories matched up so he was sinking on the Titanic. To make matters worse, when uncle LEO was not looking she took a small baggie containing a white powder and put it in his armrest. When police searched his vehicle HE got taken down town for it. Took him two years to clean it up and close to $20,000 in attorney fees, but the damage had been done. Job lost, wife lost, kids would not speak to him (to this day) and he has never recovered financially or professionally.

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