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  1. #14643

    Shut up and take my money

    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger  [View Original Post]
    I could probably write a history book of the evolution of strip clubs in Detroit from the 80's to present.
    Please do!
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  2. #14642

    Great summation

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryDude  [View Original Post]
    This is 100 percent correct, I don't go to clubs often, maybe 1 or 2 times a quarter. I used to go only to LS after testing the most of the 8 mile clubs and going monthly to legends when I worked downtown, all pre Detroit curtain rules. Then realized the bang for the buck and non pretentious vibe at Hamilton's places, so now I only go to those LOL. Hold for a bachelor party.

    Anyways I let the dancer chat with me, ask if I want a few VIP dances and then point blank whisper what I'm looking for. Have them give me a price, hesitate saying I just stopped in because I drove by only have xxx usually I bring around 200 total, troll tax, a club soda and tip, cover, then rest for the dancer. The only time FS wasn't had for this price was an older 40 ish 7 or 8 MILF I've not seen her again, said no FS. Let me eat her ass during BJ and was a good time for sure.

    I pay more than some and less than some but I don't want to spend over an hour inside, I live and work about an hour west otherwise I'd go more.
    Unfortunately for me, most every strip joint is within 30 minutes of me, and over the years my workday would often end near strip clubs, or within minutes of them. I do NOT wish to calculate the expenditure over the years.

  3. #14641

    Tipouts are a 2000's thing

    Quote Originally Posted by RainMan5  [View Original Post]
    Since the topic came up recently and this is an active thread I will throw my 2 cents in.

    From my basic understanding since I don't go back many, many years with strip clubs at one point many years ago there were no tip outs then the began maybe about the late 1990's.

    I think club owners, management & other employees maybe became jealous of what some dancers could earn during the peak of peak times. Others said its to encourage dancers to do extras, but many places unlike Detroit don't have any extras at all.

    I know if I were a Dancer I would not want to pay to work. I suppose good dancers at the right clubs can handle tip outs no problem, but for many dancers it can be a hindrance and cause them to quit.
    Looooongtime strip club devotee, I began in 1981.

    Tipouts, house fees, stage fees, almost all the same thing. Some clubs had house fee, then separate tip-out to DJ, door, VIP attendant, etc so that club didn't pay those workers, the dancers did.

    In the 80's the dancers were paid an hourly rate plus tips. The hotter the girl, the higher the wage. When Tycoons opened (late 80's) the girls didn't even have to do table or inceeasingly, lap dances to make money. It was several years before Tycoons made a VIP room that was one big room with upholstered benches ringing the walls, there was no VIP fee, and the dances were lap dances with hands at your side.

    I could probably write a history book of the evolution of strip clubs in Detroit from the 80's to present.

    There is a long road from girls dancing on tables, to tableside, to lapdance at tables, to lapdances in designated VIP room, to sex in communal VIPs, to private booths of today. Of course there is the regression in Detroit proper from booths to open VIP areas.

  4. #14640
    Quote Originally Posted by Bmarr77  [View Original Post]
    They want 300-600 at BT's these days? Wow, prices have gone up quickly!
    Dayshift is $100-$200.

    Nightshift is $200-$400.

    Only one or two will holdout for $500+, bc they have regulars that pay it. The rest are trying to finesse you and will take $300 on average.

  5. #14639
    Quote Originally Posted by Bmarr77  [View Original Post]
    Also, never, never ever pay money up front! She now has your dough and does not need to deliver the goods! You can show her the money and just say I will pay when were done.
    This is 100 percent correct, I don't go to clubs often, maybe 1 or 2 times a quarter. I used to go only to LS after testing the most of the 8 mile clubs and going monthly to legends when I worked downtown, all pre Detroit curtain rules. Then realized the bang for the buck and non pretentious vibe at Hamilton's places, so now I only go to those LOL. Hold for a bachelor party.

    Anyways I let the dancer chat with me, ask if I want a few VIP dances and then point blank whisper what I'm looking for. Have them give me a price, hesitate saying I just stopped in because I drove by only have xxx usually I bring around 200 total, troll tax, a club soda and tip, cover, then rest for the dancer. The only time FS wasn't had for this price was an older 40 ish 7 or 8 MILF I've not seen her again, said no FS. Let me eat her ass during BJ and was a good time for sure.

    I pay more than some and less than some but I don't want to spend over an hour inside, I live and work about an hour west otherwise I'd go more.

  6. #14638
    Quote Originally Posted by CrackHoreLover  [View Original Post]
    The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

    Better luck next time.
    Also, never, never ever pay money up front! She now has your dough and does not need to deliver the goods! You can show her the money and just say I will pay when were done.

  7. #14637

    Strip Club Tipouts

    Since the topic came up recently and this is an active thread I will throw my 2 cents in.

    From my basic understanding since I don't go back many, many years with strip clubs at one point many years ago there were no tip outs then the began maybe about the late 1990's.

    I think club owners, management & other employees maybe became jealous of what some dancers could earn during the peak of peak times. Others said its to encourage dancers to do extras, but many places unlike Detroit don't have any extras at all.

    I know if I were a Dancer I would not want to pay to work. I suppose good dancers at the right clubs can handle tip outs no problem, but for many dancers it can be a hindrance and cause them to quit.

  8. #14636
    Senior Member


    Posts: 242
    Agree 100%, as I said this is what happens when you let the little guy make choices for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrackHoreLover  [View Original Post]
    The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

    Better luck next time.

  9. #14635

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by CrackHoreLover  [View Original Post]
    The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

    Better luck next time.
    Totally agree. And honestly, I've never had to ask "if" at Bogies LOL. It's just about the details and negotiations.

  10. #14634
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay23  [View Original Post]
    I was at Bograts last night, around 8. 30 PM. Looks like a dancer shortage, finally flagged down one (at this point I am desperate). I always get a few dances to test them out, we go upstairs and she says "I will give you 6 dances for $100", "and you have to pay me in advance". At this point we are in the booth, my Jr has taken over my brain activity, I hand over the cash. The dance was too mediocre, she wanted another 100 for a lap dance. At this point 2 songs in, I told her "Thanks hon" and walked out wasting a 100. I don't remember her name. 35 years of going to strip clubs and I still have a lot to learn.
    The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

    Better luck next time.

  11. #14633

    Quill

    Wow! I saw her a bunch of times about five years ago. She was at Landing Strip, her stage name was Lyric, if memory serves, when we first met. She wasn't allowed to dance at Bogarts at the time due to some stripper drama. Tight & tiny body; total spinner. Not all there upstairs but was a great time. Can't speak to her current condition but she was shaved and smelled great back then. We had some interaction outside of the club and she was rather unstable, putting it very mildly. Thought she was long out of the game.

    Stay safe,

    J.

  12. #14632
    Senior Member


    Posts: 242

    Bogarts, fell for the 6 songs for 100 bucks trick.

    I was at Bograts last night, around 8. 30 PM. Looks like a dancer shortage, finally flagged down one (at this point I am desperate). I always get a few dances to test them out, we go upstairs and she says "I will give you 6 dances for $100", "and you have to pay me in advance". At this point we are in the booth, my Jr has taken over my brain activity, I hand over the cash. The dance was too mediocre, she wanted another 100 for a lap dance. At this point 2 songs in, I told her "Thanks hon" and walked out wasting a 100. I don't remember her name. 35 years of going to strip clubs and I still have a lot to learn.

  13. #14631
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    They hit you with valet, coat check, and the the girls want 300-600.
    The girls can ask for anything they want. The more helpful information is the price point that they will accept. Some will say no to 200, but the vast majority will find that (or below) a perfectly acceptable number.

  14. #14630
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles0923  [View Original Post]
    They hit you with valet, coat check, and the the girls want 300-600.
    They want 300-600 at BT's these days? Wow, prices have gone up quickly!

  15. #14629
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyGuy12  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know what the average tip out is? Does it vary between week days and week ends? Just kind of curious if anyone knows?
    I seem to recall the FC girls stating it was over $200 after they tipped out the DJ, bouncers, bartender, and so on. But that was at least 5 years ago.

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