Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[Marko Ramius]

Just curious, but why would anyone participate in this using their real name, phone, etc? I take great care in distancing my persona here from my real life, I always assumed everyone else would as well.

There have been cases where DNA samples from 23 andMe and ancestry.com have been used to identify biological fathers. So you can't really escape it.

In my case, I was acting reasonably and in good faith to do the right thing. I insisted that everything be handled above board on supporting the kid and she freaked out and absconded. According to my attorneys even if she came back later and asked for child support there was a pretty low upper limit on how much the courts would award her. Given that this all happened quite some time ago my liability is very limited and I don't worry much about it.

Two additional things: about a year after she absconded I hired a skip tracer to track her down and he easily found her, I was able to do a document request from the state she was in and get a copy of the birth certificate. No father was identified on the birth certificate. The other thing was some months later I spoke to another provider who knew her well and she filled me in on some salacious details -- mainly that she was hitting up several customers and a couple of boyfriends for money as well, and several of them were still paying her as of that time. I helpfully passed on the information to that provider so she could helpfully pass that information onto her other victims.

So she was a filthy scammer.

[Jimmysixxx7]

Starting to think Rex is fishing. And we are the fish? No one in the hobby for 20 plus years can be this aggressively naive? Right?

Rex, if your dying to have a kid and tons of family law problems, just meet a girl online or do a mail order bride. It sounds like you might have some disposable income. There are tons of skanks who will gladly. Ughhh I'm falling for it. Yeah he's definitely a troll. Or maybe a provider playing games.

Yea that and all the accounts he creates and makes one or two posts on.

[Jimmysixxx7]

Jimmy, I will say, I know that life wasn't easy for you or your mother. I can believe that both your biological mother and father are decent people, who just unfortunately wound up in bad situations. I can believe and understand the pain you felt, being raised by an addict. I am sympathetic to you on that.

What I want, is for people to understand, that MY situation, while nowhere as rough as yours, is STILL not totally pain free.

Talking about myself here: Since age 26, feeling like a nerd, geek, loser, who "has no game," is NOT a painless existence to live through. It also has massive damage to the ego and psyche.

I'm not asking Jimmy or anybody to AGREE with me. I just want all of you to "see where I'm coming from. ".

Complex people (me) don't necessarily always want to be AGREED with. What we do want, is for people to understand us.

I completely see where you are coming from. My point is that actual success completely ruins a child's life unless the provider goes straight, which has happened. I know 3 who have. I know many more stories where the kids have terrible lives affected by their mothers.

In all honesty I don't want you to feel like you're less than other people. There's nothing functionally wrong with being nerdy. I was nerdy growing up. Hell I still play dnd! You're asking for empathy and understanding here on this forum. Yet you seem to lack that same empathy to your potential children born into these types of situations. Is your fetish more important to you than another ruined life?

Do you do anything to directly address your self esteem issues? Do you do anything to address your image? I know plenty of nerdy guys who meet women. You can too if you decide to make yourself your next project rather than destroying the life of a future child.

[Jimmysixxx7]

daemon.

Daemon.

This just kinda proves that you wouldn't care about the kids and the whole thing is about you. Listen I have no problem with a dude wanting to have a child or seven, but this wanting to knock up a provider is pretty sick dude. Call me whatever you want. It's still selfish af to want to bring a child into a world of drug addiction, physical abuse, pimps, mental and emotional abuse, housing instability, etc. I'm just calling your fetish what it is.

[Rex Hughes]

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion. That is for sure. Blaming someone or something else for ones thought process though seems like a cop out though. If you feel that way. Own it. I must say though some of the things written here seem like they have not been thought through completely. I would suggest reading / analyzing the bigger picture and the implications of actions on others, before determining what it is you are really after. Again this is just friendly advice, take it or leave it.

Daemon.

Daemon.

[TnaHunter2014]

I'm not savvy with burner phones or even burner emails or twitter accounts. I'm worst with burner PHONE NUMBERS, so I don't have a clue.

I use my regular phone for hobbying, because with MY kind of luck, I'm never going to have to worry about a lady legitimately making a paternity claim against me.

Yes, if I get arrested by the police for simply partaking in the hobby, that would suck.

In early 1999, from an agency in the YELLOW PAGES, I booked with an Asian agency, hoping for a Korean. Par for the course back then, they sent me a Polynesian / Filipina girl named Leilani. Full service wasn't a slam dunk back then. I paid her for FS, and "because a little of my cum might have gotten near her cooter," I feared I could have gotten her pregnant (what a laugh, now).

Before I was 26, I didn't have a working brain. That is, before I was 26, I didn't WANT to knock up a woman (even if she let me). What the hell was I thinking.

Anyway, a DAY after I saw Leilani, someone knocked on my door. Likely a solicitor, but he looked like a Filipino man. I kid you not, I feared that was Leilani's BROTHER, coming to tell me that impregnated his sister.

Mind you, Leilani did CFS with me, and didn't even do any oral with me..

Starting to think Rex is fishing. And we are the fish? No one in the hobby for 20 plus years can be this aggressively naive? Right?

Rex, if your dying to have a kid and tons of family law problems, just meet a girl online or do a mail order bride. It sounds like you might have some disposable income. There are tons of skanks who will gladly. Ughhh I'm falling for it. Yeah he's definitely a troll. Or maybe a provider playing games.

[ShootingBlanks]

I second this commotion.

Out barebacking and creampie-ing hoes, strippers, and "models " if I wasn't fixed. The vasectomy was so freeing.

[Bobby ShafToe]

Out barebacking and creampie-ing hoes, strippers, and "models " if I wasn't fixed. The vasectomy was so freeing.

[Rex Hughes]

what i don't get is how completely selfish this fetish, because it is a fetish at this point, is. As someone who was raised by an addict, why the hell would you want a child raised by an addict? Add the situations providers live in and all you're looking for is an abused child. Why do you want to sentence a child to that life? Do you want to be a hero? It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like you just want to know you have a child and are completely willing to set them up poorly in life.

I don't know man. I personally don't want to hear about your desire to set kids up for a life of abuse and drug addiction anymore. You seem like a nice enough guy. Please get a normal, non provider, drug addicted person for this endeavor. Some self confidence would be good too.

daemon.

Daemon.

[HarveyCalhoon]

Just curious, but why would anyone participate in this using their real name, phone, etc? I take great care in distancing my persona here from my real life, I always assumed everyone else would as well.

All this talk of child support making me rethink BBFS. On the other hand agree about I'd. Know my face. Not real name etc.

Why would anybody provide that info?

[BoboThe55]

What I don't get is how completely selfish this fetish, because it is a fetish at this point, is. As someone who was raised by an addict, why the hell would you want a child raised by an addict? Add the situations providers live in and all you're looking for is an abused child. Why do you want to sentence a child to that life? Do you want to be a hero? It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like you just want to know you have a child and are completely willing to set them up poorly in life.

I don't know man. I personally don't want to hear about your desire to set kids up for a life of abuse and drug addiction anymore. You seem like a nice enough guy. Please get a normal, non provider, drug addicted person for this endeavor. Some self confidence would be good too.

Beyond selfish. Personally speaking having a vacant father who has many children.

To all the sperm donors. " GO FUCK YOURSELF".

[ShootingBlanks]

Shiver and puke that said now realize this she has simps and wk stop the planet I want off.

I'd agree on the PDX mind cancer!! And on Mollylane. Jesus! One fella review her way back as BBWer than even the photos! I'm shocked she has hits! I did it once with a girl that size. I still feel bad about it. LOL.

That's just me.

[ShootingBlanks]

I don't seek bb I just get offered it who am I to argue LOL who doesn't want it raw nobody worth knowing that's who and any man playing this game that don't have a snip is doing it wrong LOL.

This "hobby" is about seeking fun and gratification. Seeking BB is about maximizing that gratification. Or in some cases, the only way to reliably climax.

It's not about finding a partner or mate. Trying to use this to produce offspring sure sounds like a fetish to me. But it also points out one of the ways this whole thing isn't played on a level field. At the end of the day, the woman needs to guard against pregnancy or deal with it's immediate consequences. Trying to avoid introducing a child into the mix seems like common sense to me. Spread your seed elsewhere. Or be a sperm donor and have random children with those who are, at least hopefully, trying to build a stable family.

[DrtyHarry]

I blame the media, society and pop culture for my fetish.

The way I've given examples of how seemingly nice enough people, become TOTAL arrogant shithead asshole snobs right AFTER becoming a biological parent, makes ME also want to become an arrogant shithead asshole.

Like you, even though we're on opposite sides, the grass always looks greener on the other side.

You have your view, I have mine.

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion. That is for sure. Blaming someone or something else for ones thought process though seems like a cop out though. If you feel that way. Own it. I must say though some of the things written here seem like they have not been thought through completely. I would suggest reading / analyzing the bigger picture and the implications of actions on others, before determining what it is you are really after. Again this is just friendly advice, take it or leave it.

[Rex Hughes]

This "hobby" is about seeking fun and gratification. Seeking BB is about maximizing that gratification. Or in some cases, the only way to reliably climax.

It's not about finding a partner or mate. Trying to use this to produce offspring sure sounds like a fetish to me. But it also points out one of the ways this whole thing isn't played on a level field. At the end of the day, the woman needs to guard against pregnancy or deal with it's immediate consequences. Trying to avoid introducing a child into the mix seems like common sense to me. Spread your seed elsewhere. Or be a sperm donor and have random children with those who are, at least hopefully, trying to build a stable family.

If ALL providers and SW a were guarding against pregnancy, and successful at doing so, I Wouldn't be talking about it here.

It's just that, these SP are so open about not being on birth control, and are actually PROUD when they get knocked up.

The point: SOME hobbyist will do it, eventually.

How is Nerdy Rex knocking you SW Samantha any worse than Asshole-Abusive-Chad knocking her up?

At a banquet (no refills by a kitchen), you go to the serving table, and there is ONE cream puff left. You KINDA don't want to take it, because you'll feel kind of greedy and selfish.

MY point: TAKE that last cream puff (provided, you didn't have 5 of them prior to that, as that's a totally different story). Because, if YOU don't take that last cream puff, somebody ELSE will.

I see your points Joseph, and I respect them.

But, I'm seeing this as another "dog eat dog world" situation. I'm tired of being the friendly little puppy with the sad eyes. I'm going to be a PIT BULL from now on!

WOOF!