Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[JMaul]

I take a little caution with this post, not because I care all that much who I offend, but it may come across as an unpopular opinion.

Passwords are the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of.

In my entire hobbying experience I've never needed a password to see a provider. And I've seen a number of the women that fall under the supposed "password" requirement without your beloved password. And almost every single one of those providers was a bust.

Everyone has their preferences, so if you like the whole password thing, whatever. But to cast this idea that passwords somehow protect the woman in question is a fucking joke. First, they want money, not a password. Second, I'm sure the majority of people on this board have never met a single monger in real life or can vouch for them beyond posts they make. Third, I would contest that whomever is creating the password isn't doing it for the woman in question, it's 100% for the password keeper's own personal benefit.

In fact, I'll go as far to say that the password thing is hurting this hobby more than it helps.

Look for yourselves. Just how many of these "password protected UTR" providers actually have a decent track record, are drug free, don't have significant comm issues and are somewhat reliable. Maybe that's your thing, you want to be first or next or feel special because you're part of a club by which a password gets you VIP access. I don't buy a plain cheeseburger from McDonalds thinking it's a Ribeye so I guess you should know what you're getting if you participate.

There are some great UTRs that have come and gone and needed no password or affiliation with any specific monger needed.

So why do I think it's wrecking the hobby? Because this isn't being done out of the kindness of people's hearts. At best it's getting a finders fee or free service. At worst it's the same thing as a damn handler. You don't like pimps you say? Then stop with the passwords.

Just an opinion, at the end of the day I've learned a few things in this hobby. First, many guys are assholes. As much as it sucks for the women who have to deal with them constantly, you're making it a whole lot easier for decent individuals to get a much better experience. Second, women who use passwords will never see a dime from me again. Even though I didn't use a password the service and experience wasn't worth any price. Third, the password is not to benefit you, it's to benefit someone else. And it's not the lady in question either.

Regardless, please stay safe out there. Many guys are assholes but you don't have to be. Instead of treating these situations like you're going to hit it til they quit it, you might see some decent providers stick around longer.

As long as a lady is linked to password, it's a giant red flag to me and makes it a lot easier to not engage further. But best of luck to you all.

[BassMaster1]

There was an incident where a regular member begged, pleaded and whined about not getting various UTR's contact info. This was someone fairly new to the community who hadn't yet established credibility. He was questionable at best, so the senior members who brought the UTRs into the game chose not to share with him. Unfortunately someone else who was only given the info to use, not to share, decided he could share it anyways. And thus the questionable monger got it.

Why is that a problem? I posted the UTR 101 in the Newbie Guide to answer that question and describe the etiquette. In order to protect the UTR, digits / passwords shouldn't be handed out to just anyone. It's a subjective decision to know who to give digits to, but there are some objective things a responsible person helping the UTR should look for before passing out digits. At a minimum the requesting monger should be a senior member that has demonstrated maturity, respect for women, and would not compromise the UTR in anyway. In the aforementioned incident, the monger begging for the contact info did not demonstrate any of those things. The senior members decision to not pass along info on his first and repeated requests ended up being justified. The monger proved without a shadow of a doubt he was an undeserving troll. A troll who loves acting like a dope. Let's make up a name for him, like TrollLover420. It's fitting. If you were to read TrollLover420's posts it reeks of immaturity, lack of respect for anyone, and absolutely no regard for the UTR's privacy. Literally, go read his words. It's impossible to conclude otherwise.

TrollLover420 should NOT have received the UTRs digits. It's not his fault. He's a troll. He's probably a banned member that knew exactly how USASG works. He made post after post just to achieve unmoderated senior member status quickly (Slick, right? The fault, unknowingly or not, lies with the other member (s) that passed along digits / passwords second hand without regard to the vetting process and safety of the UTR. That's the real lesson here.

You may roll you eyes and not like the methods how some of us choose to help UTRs, however it should be clear it's done to protect the women while still benefiting the team. Remember, this "team" has no membership fees, no identification, and no accountability. All it takes is an email to become a USASG member. If we don't self police and be mindful of who's a good team player then any troll, any banned member, or any anonymous creep looking to do women harm can come on here and get access to the UTRs we're trying to keep safe. Sadly, TrollLover420 illustrates this point perfectly, and that's why we need to be more diligent in how we share UTRs.

Thanks to those who understand and will support the process positively.

Well said PP!! And thanks for trusting me with your UTR have enjoyed her quite a few times already including tonight!

[PrivateParts]

There was an incident where a regular member begged, pleaded and whined about not getting various UTR's contact info. This was someone fairly new to the community who hadn't yet established credibility. He was questionable at best, so the senior members who brought the UTRs into the game chose not to share with him. Unfortunately someone else who was only given the info to use, not to share, decided he could share it anyways. And thus the questionable monger got it.

Why is that a problem? I posted the UTR 101 in the Newbie Guide to answer that question and describe the etiquette. In order to protect the UTR, digits / passwords shouldn't be handed out to just anyone. It's a subjective decision to know who to give digits to, but there are some objective things a responsible person helping the UTR should look for before passing out digits. At a minimum the requesting monger should be a senior member that has demonstrated maturity, respect for women, and would not compromise the UTR in anyway. In the aforementioned incident, the monger begging for the contact info did not demonstrate any of those things. The senior members decision to not pass along info on his first and repeated requests ended up being justified. The monger proved without a shadow of a doubt he was an undeserving troll. A troll who loves acting like a dope. Let's make up a name for him, like TrollLover420. It's fitting. If you were to read TrollLover420's posts it reeks of immaturity, lack of respect for anyone, and absolutely no regard for the UTR's privacy. Literally, go read his words. It's impossible to conclude otherwise.

TrollLover420 should NOT have received the UTRs digits. It's not his fault. He's a troll. He's probably a banned member that knew exactly how USASG works. He made post after post just to achieve unmoderated senior member status quickly (Slick, right? The fault, unknowingly or not, lies with the other member (s) that passed along digits / passwords second hand without regard to the vetting process and safety of the UTR. That's the real lesson here.

You may roll you eyes and not like the methods how some of us choose to help UTRs, however it should be clear it's done to protect the women while still benefiting the team. Remember, this "team" has no membership fees, no identification, and no accountability. All it takes is an email to become a USASG member. If we don't self police and be mindful of who's a good team player then any troll, any banned member, or any anonymous creep looking to do women harm can come on here and get access to the UTRs we're trying to keep safe. Sadly, TrollLover420 illustrates this point perfectly, and that's why we need to be more diligent in how we share UTRs.

Thanks to those who understand and will support the process positively.

[Tommey]

It is spelled they're (they are), not there. Use proper grammer (sic) and spelling and maybe someone will take you more serious (sic).

Seriously Arish, you intended to use an adverb rather than an adjective there, didn't cha? Yay, internet grammar trolls FTW!

[Arish]

There rare because you only get the older ugly ones. Hottest one we had was tiny t and o yea she went full blown provider. Cause she loves big dick!!

It is spelled they're (they are), not there. Use proper grammer and spelling and maybe someone will take you more serious.

[TitLover420]

I don't know when the last time you talked with Tiny T but she is out of the game. I am friends with her now and she is not working anymore.

Last night when she was takin my dick in doggy style.

[Arish]

There rare because you only get the older ugly ones. Hottest one we had was tiny t and o yea she went full blown provider. Cause she loves big dick!!

I don't know when the last time you talked with Tiny T but she is out of the game. I am friends with her now and she is not working anymore.

[TitLover420]

I agree with Monger01, the UTR hotties are scarce.

Many misconceptions about UTR. Typically their time is limited to seeing clients while kids are in school so they aren't available all the time. When they catch up on rent for the month they usually fade until the next month.

The biggest misconception is they will stay UTR. This hobby is not usually their long term goal. If they need more money than being a UTR can get them, they graduate to full escort or get a job at a massage parlor. LexiLuv has been contacting me about going UTR again. I told her since she has a BF she / we would be better off if she joined a massage parlor near her on the South side of town.
Graduating from UTR to escort is expected. UTR is a trial run for most of them. Some have been in the hobby before and got out, return for quick cash and get out again like Skinny Mini and Lilliana.

LexiLuv and Sweet Little Thing are two little hot UTRs. They are some of the very rare that Monger01 was mentioning

There rare because you only get the older ugly ones. Hottest one we had was tiny t and o yea she went full blown provider. Cause she loves big dick!!

[Benz1]

There's been a few gems over the years but most are not young hotties. Young hotties generally easily find a guy to support them and seldom need to prostitute. There's exceptions to that but not often.

Guys like UTRs for lower mileage, being generally safer and typically less flakey so less late or ghosted dates. I was seeing one a couple years ago and she was very hot and drug free. Mid 30's, had a regular job and kids and a live in boyfriend. So for her it was all about extra cash and she told me she likes to fuck anyway so why not? But with a boyfriend and kids no way was she posting an ad.

I agree with Monger01, the UTR hotties are scarce.

Many misconceptions about UTR. Typically their time is limited to seeing clients while kids are in school so they aren't available all the time. When they catch up on rent for the month they usually fade until the next month.

The biggest misconception is they will stay UTR. This hobby is not usually their long term goal. If they need more money than being a UTR can get them, they graduate to full escort or get a job at a massage parlor. LexiLuv has been contacting me about going UTR again. I told her since she has a BF she / we would be better off if she joined a massage parlor near her on the South side of town.
Graduating from UTR to escort is expected. UTR is a trial run for most of them. Some have been in the hobby before and got out, return for quick cash and get out again like Skinny Mini and Lilliana.

LexiLuv and Sweet Little Thing are two little hot UTRs. They are some of the very rare that Monger01 was mentioning

[TitLover420]

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[TitLover420]

Looks like DjMoped is getting some much needed attention (like a 5 yr. Old) from his new profile.

The fact that he hasn't been able to see any UTRs is funny AF.

The real problem is the person who gave him the password and digits. This should be concerning to all members for the safety of our UTRs. They won't stay a UTR, if they have to deal with idiots like these.
That's why we screen them out.
Happy Hunting and stay safe.

Was it me that breached it? I spelled Woodstock101 on her titties while she said I have a bigger dick then benz.

😂128514; who do you think gave me the information? Because I'll tell your dumb ass right now that I got over 10 messages with her password and number o and I got the new ones too 👌129304; MESSAGE ME FOR DIGITS AND PASSWORD GUYS!! Get it befor she's looser then a hotdog in a hallway.

[TitLover420]

Looks like DjMoped is getting some much needed attention (like a 5 yr. Old) from his new profile.

The fact that he hasn't been able to see any UTRs is funny AF.

The real problem is the person who gave him the password and digits. This should be concerning to all members for the safety of our UTRs. They won't stay a UTR, if they have to deal with idiots like these.
That's why we screen them out.
Happy Hunting and stay safe.

All your utrs are terrible. Skinny mini is a crack head.

Curly sue is a candy user and flowerchild looks like a ex meth user, o jammin Jamie is a user and she literally called for some when I was with her. Sbj is a druggy also. And it's funny because they all come out as regular providers anyways because they love the cock so much and they are tired of all you old erectile dysfunctional fucks. So yea say I need 5 year old attention again ***** because I think your the one who really needs it by looking for all these different utrs. Yea I said what I said fuck Yoo and the rest of you cunts.

[TitLover420]

You 5 fuking idiots look stupider than fuk, you would think the CIA got hacked, always you same 5 that stick up for that dum ass, I have no clue who this other dude is and don't give 2 shits, but the one thing he is correct about is bend 6" does pray on the toothless druggies, even tho he "helps" them, you 5 have too much time on your hands, leave me the fuk out of your CIA OPERATIVES, and the only jack ass missing is that snot nose but his fat ass wife grounded him I'm sure.

I just don't care I'm doing all this to fuck all your guys days up. I don't give a fuck about these hoes. And I know right your freaking out like the cia got hacked lmao.

[Benz1]

Seems like your sole purpose of posting is to antagonize the members here and not much else.

Looks like DjMoped is getting some much needed attention (like a 5 yr. Old) from his new profile.

The fact that he hasn't been able to see any UTRs is funny AF.

The real problem is the person who gave him the password and digits. This should be concerning to all members for the safety of our UTRs. They won't stay a UTR, if they have to deal with idiots like these.
That's why we screen them out.
Happy Hunting and stay safe.

[Monger01]

Since UTRs seem to be the subject of the day, I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the few UTRs that have been shared with me. I keep getting all excited thinking they are going to be young Hotties that look so good they don't need to advertise due to a line of guys waiting for their change to be next. Then I see the pic and realize it is just some woman who is so plain I could probably pick her up for free if I saw her at a bar and would even pass on the chance then. Maybe I have just not been lucky and introduced to the good UTRs yet.

There's been a few gems over the years but most are not young hotties. Young hotties generally easily find a guy to support them and seldom need to prostitute. There's exceptions to that but not often.

Guys like UTRs for lower mileage, being generally safer and typically less flakey so less late or ghosted dates. I was seeing one a couple years ago and she was very hot and drug free. Mid 30's, had a regular job and kids and a live in boyfriend. So for her it was all about extra cash and she told me she likes to fuck anyway so why not? But with a boyfriend and kids no way was she posting an ad.